TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Saw the other thread was started by some dude who got banned so I'm assuming nobody will be updating it, but if the mods still think this is redundant, feel free to merge it into the other one. Overall Implications for the Blue Jays Gained (MLB): Glenn Sparkman (RHP - Royals) Gained (AAA): Philip Walby (RHP - Nationals) Lost (AAA): Jorge Flores (SS - Phillies) Lost (AAA): Jorge Saez (C - Yankees) Lost (AAA): Matt Smoral (RHP - Rangers) MLB Draft - Round 1 1) Twins - Miguel Diaz (Brewers) - Traded to Padres 2) Reds - Luis Torrens (Yankees) - Traded to Padres 3) Padres - Allen Cordoba (Cardinals) 4) Rays - Kevin Gadea (Mariners) 5) Braves - Armando Rivero (Cubs) 7) Diamondbacks - Tyler Jones (Yankees) 9) Brewers - Caleb Smith (Yankees) 10) Angels - Justin Haley (Red Sox) - Traded to Twins 12) White Sox - Dylan Covey (Athletics) 13) Pirates - Tyler Webb (Yankees) 20) Tigers - Daniel Stumpf (Royals) 23) Orioles - Aneury Tavarez (Red Sox) 24) Blue Jays - Glen Sparkman (Royals) 26) Red Sox - Josh Rutledge (Rockies) 27) Indians - Hoby Milner (Indians) 29) Rangers - Mike Hauschild (Astros) MLB Draft - Round 2 2) Reds - Stuart Turner (Twins) 23) Orioles - Anthony Santander (Indians) AAA Draft - Round 1 1) Reds - Jose Adames, RHP (Marlins) 2) Padres - Trevor Frank, RHP (Indians) 3) Rays - Ty Hensley, RHP (Yankees) 4) Braves - Cecilio Pimentel, LHP (Pirates) 5) Diamondbacks - John Fitzsimmons, RHP (Indians) 6) Phillies - Jorge Flores, SS (Blue Jays) 7) Brewers - Art Charles, 1B (Reds) 8) Angels - Matt Williams, INF (Cardinals) 9) Rockies - Anthony Bemboom, RHP (Angels) 10) Marlins - Cal Towey, OF (Angels) 11) Royals - Kevin Magallanes, RHP (Yankees) 12) Astros - Eduardo De Oleo, C (Diamondbacks) 13) Yankees - Jorge Saez, C (Blue Jays) 14) Mariners - Paul Paez, LHP (Mets) 15) Cardinals - Austin Wilson, OF (Mariners) 16) Tigers - Sean Donatello, RHP (Marlins) 17) Orioles - Jeffery Hernandez RHP, (Reds) 18) Blue Jays - Phillip Walby RHP, (Nationals) 19) Dodgers - Edward Paredes, LHP (Tigers) 20) Red Sox - Harrison Cooney, RHP (Angels) 21) Rangers - LHP Matt Smoral (Blue Jays) 22) Cubs - Kevin Cornelius, INF (Yankees) AAA Draft - Round 2 23) Rays - Jairo Munoz, RHP (Phillies) 24) Diamondbacks - Grant Sides, RHP (Indians) 25) Brewers - Matt Ramsey, RHP (Marlins) 26) Angels - Adrian Almeda, LHP (Mets) 27) Marlins - Nick Maronde, LHP (Indians) 28) Astros - Jared Mortensen (Rays) 29) Yankees - Colton Brewer, RHP (Pirates) 30) Mariners - Chuck Taylor, OF (Diamondbacks) 31) Tigers - Elvis Rubio, OF (Brewers) 32) Orioles - Brian Mora, LHP (Braves) 33) Dodgers - Kyle Grana, RHP (Cardinals) 34) Red Sox - Josh Smith, LHP (Pirates) 35) Rangers - Zack Bird, RHP (Braves) AAA Draft - Round 3 36) Diamondbacks - Daniel Lockhart, INF (Cubs) 37) Angels - Mario Sanjur, C (Tigers) 38) Marlins - Alex Yarbrough, 2B (Angels) 39) Rangers - Fernando Miranda, RHP (Braves) Edited December 8, 2016 by TwistedLogic
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Sparkman had TJS in 2014 but looks solid. Hopefully can be the 2017 Biagini
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Sparkman started a nice follow-up year to his strong 2014 performance with four promising starts in Double-A before going down with an elbow injury that required Tommy John surgery. He has a lot of deception with his delivery, using a slow-to-fast tempo that is tough for hitters to time up. The Royals prefer pitchers focusing on one breaking ball during development, though there is ongoing discussion over whether his slider or curve is more projectable. He’s not a big power guy but commands his fastball very well. Assuming he comes back fully healthy, there’s a chance he turns his deception and command into middle to back-end starter role. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/evaluating-the-2016-prospects-kansas-city-royals/
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Sounds like a #4/5 starter or swingman profile. Will be interesting to see if we can get a strong contribution out not the rule V for a second straight year.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Matt Smoral got taken by Texas in the Minor league Rule5 draft.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Who names their '92 baby Glenn? jesus mom. I love how he's listed as a switch hitter too.
jerb Verified Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Shi Davidi Verified account @ShiDavidi #BlueJays take double-A RHP Philip Walby from #Nationals
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 whats the difference between the MLB/MILB portion of the drafts? for MLB, do they have to be on the 25 man?
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 whats the difference between the MLB/MILB portion of the drafts? for MLB, do they have to be on the 25 man? Yup
jerb Verified Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Shi Davidi Verified account @ShiDavidi #Phillies pluck double-A SS Jorge Flores from #BlueJays in minor-lg portion of Rule 5 draft
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 whats the difference between the MLB/MILB portion of the drafts? for MLB, do they have to be on the 25 man? Correct, anyone selected in the major league portion has to either stay on your 25 man all year or be offered back to their previous club.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 26) Red Sox select Josh Rutledge from the Rockies ???
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Matt Smoral got taken by Texas in the Minor league Rule5 draft. Jays' minor league pitching coach reaction
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Yankees got pillaged. That's a lot of rule 5 picks.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Yankees got pillaged. That's a lot of rule 5 picks. Good. Good.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Author Posted December 8, 2016 RIP Matt Smoral (2012-2016).
AdamGreenwood Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Yankees got pillaged. That's a lot of rule 5 picks. Does seem kind of unfair that one team could lose four players in the Rule-5 draft.
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 So right now we have: Osuna Grilli Biagini Loup (only lefty, so close to lock, but does have options) out of options Bolsinger Oberholtzer Schultz remaining options Campos Leone Barnes Dermody Girodo Of the out of options guys, Bo Schultz is probably finished here. Bolsinger is probably close to a lock to make the team, as he's a very useful swingman and probably wouldn't make it through waivers. So there will probably be some competition between Sparkman and Oberholtzer for one spot, with Sparkman having more upside, and thus the inside track. So something like: Osuna Grilli Biagini free agent signing Loup Bolsinger Sparkman/Oberholtzer/one of the guys with options only if they other two suck in spring
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 The Reds took two catchers in the major league portion. I'm assuming they'll let them fight it out for the backup job in ST?
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 What ever happened to Smoral?
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 So right now we have: Osuna Grilli Biagini Loup (only lefty, so close to lock, but does have options) out of options Bolsinger Oberholtzer Schultz remaining options Campos Leone Barnes Dermody Girodo Of the out of options guys, Bo Schultz is probably finished here. Bolsinger is probably close to a lock to make the team, as he's a very useful swingman and probably wouldn't make it through waivers. So there will probably be some competition between Sparkman and Oberholtzer for one spot, with Sparkman having more upside, and thus the inside track. So something like: Osuna Grilli Biagini free agent signing Loup Bolsinger Sparkman/Oberholtzer/one of the guys with options only if they other two suck in spring Oberholtzer is lefty (Plus for him) Atkins said he want one OF, backup catcher and 2 RP's via FA (25 more millions to spend)
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 What ever happened to Smoral? Injuries and major command issues.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 What ever happened to Smoral? Traded to Texas for Profar
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 So right now we have: Osuna Grilli Biagini Loup (only lefty, so close to lock, but does have options) out of options Bolsinger Oberholtzer Schultz remaining options Campos Leone Barnes Dermody Girodo Of the out of options guys, Bo Schultz is probably finished here. Bolsinger is probably close to a lock to make the team, as he's a very useful swingman and probably wouldn't make it through waivers. So there will probably be some competition between Sparkman and Oberholtzer for one spot, with Sparkman having more upside, and thus the inside track. So something like: Osuna Grilli Biagini free agent signing Loup Bolsinger Sparkman/Oberholtzer/one of the guys with options only if they other two suck in spring I think we're definitely going to add a couple of FA pieces, but with the FO saying that Biagini is gonna remain in the pen and Loup looking like a 'strong' option I think they know the market is tight for us to get relievers. Our starting pitching depth is pretty thin too, no?
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Oberholtzer is lefty (Plus for him) Atkins said he want one OF, backup catcher and 2 RP's via FA (25 more millions to spend) It's hard to see Oberholtzer making the team. Him and Bolsinger are too similar (guys whose value is in their ability to quickly transition to the rotation, but don't have the stuff to profile as very good relievers), but Bolsinger seems to just be a better pitcher. Oberholtzer probably gets through waivers too.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 why do you guys have no love for Barnesy :[
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 why do you guys have no love for Barnesy :[ He's good, but it's hard to see a path to the opening day roster for him barring injuries, because he has options.
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