All-Star Game no longer determines Home Field Advantage

[Jonn]

 

AP Sports reporting it and has been retweeted by several Baseball people so I have reason to believe its legit. Also the DL time has been adjusted from a minimum of 15 days to 10 days. Awesome news!

[Bobthe4th]

Good news. We should get full details of the CBA later today.

[RealAccountant]

Another win for the players regarding the DL

[fatcowxlive]

I'm loving every change I've heared about the CBA so far!!

[reedjohnsonfan]

What's the rationale behind adjusting the DL minimum to 10 days? Sounds like it could be a bad idea... someone sits out for 5 days and then goes on the DL retroactive and only has to sit out 5 more days? That sounds like a cheap way out to call guys up for shorter periods.

 

Although I'm sure there are a lot of different effects, anyone have some insight?

[Jonn]

What's the rationale behind adjusting the DL minimum to 10 days? Sounds like it could be a bad idea... someone sits out for 5 days and then goes on the DL retroactive and only has to sit out 5 more days? That sounds like a cheap way out to call guys up for shorter periods.

 

Although I'm sure there are a lot of different effects, anyone have some insight?

 

Huh? It only has upside. Sure teams could find ways to take advantage of it by why not. It's only better when teams are actually at full strength. Sometimes you have to wait several days before you can determine a players injury. Now a team has less fear using the DL knowing they won't be without that player for 2 weeks. How many times last year did we have a short bench because they didn't want to put players on the DL.

[Laika]

What's the rationale behind adjusting the DL minimum to 10 days? Sounds like it could be a bad idea... someone sits out for 5 days and then goes on the DL retroactive and only has to sit out 5 more days? That sounds like a cheap way out to call guys up for shorter periods.

 

Although I'm sure there are a lot of different effects, anyone have some insight?

 

The player still has to miss 10 games. I don't see how that is "cheap".

 

I think the added flexibility is a good thing. It lets some players with more minor injuries go on the DL and actually get healthy, rather than play through. 15 days is just too much for some of the minor injuries players get.

 

What's interesting is that there was a 10 day DL until 1984, then it switched to 15 days. I wonder if any of the rationale / discussion from back then could be dug up and examined.

 

Maybe someone who was alive and sentient back then can inform us. Hurl?

[TheHurl]

The player still has to miss 10 games. I don't see how that is "cheap".

 

I think the added flexibility is a good thing. It lets some players with more minor injuries go on the DL and actually get healthy, rather than play through. 15 days is just too much for some of the minor injuries players get.

 

What's interesting is that there was a 10 day DL until 1984, then it switched to 15 days. I wonder if any of the rationale / discussion from back then could be dug up and examined.

 

Maybe someone who was alive and sentient back then can inform us. Hurl?

 

 

It's not often the old guy is wanted. Purely off memory, I think this provision was made when the rule was changed to needing medical diagnosis to place a player on the DL. At the time there were DL limits. Only so many players allowed on the 10 day (I think that was 2 and only one pitcher, which was possibly increased to 3, with only one pitcher when it changed to the 15 day). The DL change from 10 to 15 was odd as I don't think it changed with a CBA and may have been put in place in the middle of the season. There were 21 day and 30 day DL's as well, which also had limits on the number of players. They scrapped it all in around 1989.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Huh? It only has upside. Sure teams could find ways to take advantage of it by why not. It's only better when teams are actually at full strength. Sometimes you have to wait several days before you can determine a players injury. Now a team has less fear using the DL knowing they won't be without that player for 2 weeks. How many times last year did we have a short bench because they didn't want to put players on the DL.

 

 

Then why was it 15 before? They clearly had a reason why it was 15 days before and now they're changing it...

[Stangstag]

Then why was it 15 before? They clearly had a reason why it was 15 days before and now they're changing it...

 

Because they want to give teams more incentive to actually use the DL for minor injuries. Who cares why it was 15 before? 10 is obviously much better for both the team and the player.

[Spanky99]

Then why was it 15 before? They clearly had a reason why it was 15 days before and now they're changing it...

 

So a team isn't hung in limbo... was told to you already.

[reedjohnsonfan]

The player still has to miss 10 games. I don't see how that is "cheap".

 

I think the added flexibility is a good thing. It lets some players with more minor injuries go on the DL and actually get healthy, rather than play through. 15 days is just too much for some of the minor injuries players get.

 

What's interesting is that there was a 10 day DL until 1984, then it switched to 15 days. I wonder if any of the rationale / discussion from back then could be dug up and examined.

 

Maybe someone who was alive and sentient back then can inform us. Hurl?

 

Thanks. That's interesting and Hurl has provided some good info.

 

The first thing that comes to my mind is how many total games will be lost actually being on the DL vs with the 15 day? Teams have to call up players, if call ups get less games due to the rule change that affects their salary potential which is certainly a serious concern for many players.

[reedjohnsonfan]

So a team isn't hung in limbo... was told to you already.

 

No it wasn't, he said it was weird and changed mid-season.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Because they want to give teams more incentive to actually use the DL for minor injuries. Who cares why it was 15 before? 10 is obviously much better for both the team and the player.

 

I care. Instead of just blindly accepting it as a good move it's interesting (at least for me) to ask why it was changed.

[Spanky99]

No it wasn't, he said it was weird and changed mid-season.

 

f*** off. Eat a giant veiny dick, too. Your posts suck, as does your attitude, chill on reddit, bitch!

[reedjohnsonfan]

f*** off. Eat a giant veiny dick, too. Your posts suck, as does your attitude, chill on reddit, bitch!

 

Then why didn't they make it an 8 day DL? Or 11 or 12 day? If you don't care then why are you posting responses in this thread?

[Spanky99]

Then why didn't they make it an 8 day DL? Or 11 or 12 day? If you don't care then why are you posting responses in this thread?

 

To bug you? I already said why, meat. Figure it out. You Fantasy cheating conniving goof... where's crr... or cmrrr... loser.

[Maahfaace]

The player still has to miss 10 games. I don't see how that is "cheap".

 

I think the added flexibility is a good thing. It lets some players with more minor injuries go on the DL and actually get healthy, rather than play through. 15 days is just too much for some of the minor injuries players get.

 

What's interesting is that there was a 10 day DL until 1984, then it switched to 15 days. I wonder if any of the rationale / discussion from back then could be dug up and examined.

 

Maybe someone who was alive and sentient back then can inform us. Hurl?

 

I expect to see a greater number of starters get skipped for a single game in the rotation going forward, providing more opportunities for the journeyed spot starter. Hopefully this will have a positive impact on overall starters health, but I can see where there is concern of teams over abusing it. Would a player accept a phantom DL stint? Would it potentially negatively affect future contracts for him?

[UWHabs]

I expect to see a greater number of starters get skipped for a single game in the rotation going forward, providing more opportunities for the journeyed spot starter. Hopefully this will have a positive impact on overall starters health, but I can see where there is concern of teams over abusing it. Would a player accept a phantom DL stint? Would it potentially negatively affect future contracts for him?

 

Yeah, I imagine you're going to see an awful lot of guys skip a start due to a "sore arm". But at least they still get an MLB paycheck instead of getting sent to the farm for 10 days. But I think that's essentially the MLB's solution instead of this 26th player on the roster - let you skip a guy's starts, or maybe a position player who was day to day will just be fine with missing the 8-9 games over a 10-day span and go on the DL instead, giving the teams a little more flexibility.