43211234 Verified Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 I was wondering where that Bo Bichette pic came from and it must have been from this: http://www.milb.com/news/print.jsp?ymd=20160905&content_id=199654214&vkey=news_t499&fext=.jsp&sid=t499 I don't remember hearing about this in September.
King Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 #4. Rowdy Tellez, 1B, New Hampshire Fisher Cats (Dec. 2015 Rank: 5) http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/39/files/2016/07/mlb-fall-star-game-1-850x560.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1hMYJYT.png Highest on Rowdy Tellez: z3r0s, #1 Lowest on Rowdy Tellez: BurlingtonBandit, Jaysforlife19, Jonn, Maahfaace (#7) What The People Are Saying King: We all know that he can crush RHP - but his bat vs LHP is going to dictate whether he is an everyday player or a platoon guy. He doesn't have a lot of "WAR" upside as being a 1B, and a possible poor defensive one at that, will hurt his overall value. But it's the bat that is the calling here. Bobthe4th: with nothing significant in his way at 1B could be a September 2017 call up Pendleton: I understand there are some experts with concerns over whether or not Tellez will see his success translate against MLB pitching. Regardless, I can't ignore how impressive his numbers were for a 21 year old at AA. He shows middle of the order power potential and may not be far away from making his debut. Jimcanuck: K rate declining as he elevates through the system, huge power, would be #1 prospect if played any other position but 1B/DH Nafro: I may be the most aggressive of anyone on Tellez. I think he impacts the MLB team in 2017. NJH: Power, strike zone judgment and work-ethic. Before the 2013 draft scouts complimented Tellez on those three things and tabbed him as a top ~50 talent. Baseball America called him the best left handed power available on draft day. I think Tellez gets a bit underrated because of his draft slot. If he was taken in the first round and put up these numbers, at this age, he would get a lot more attention. I think the work-ethic and strike zone judgment have been better then most optimists would have expected. He could be a first division 1B. Think Freddie Freeman. He also brings nothing to the table aside from offense, so he could be absolutely nothing (looks at the graveyard of failed 1B prospects.) That's why he is fourth on my list. 43211234: 1B prospects are scary. Especially ones with fringe defense. It's so hard to expect the ~15% above average offence that's needed for such a player to survive. The numbers are encouraging, though. Tellez had a very strong 2016 where he cut the K rate, improved the BB rate and showed more in-game power. His makeup is said to be plus. z3r0s: I think I will have him ranked higher than most doing these lists, but there is a lot to like about Rowdy the hitter. Getting his first taste of AA ball as a 21 year old, all the numbers look solid. He increased his BB% while maintaining a perfectly acceptable K%. The power continued to trend upward, his ISO has increased each year. Starting the year in Buffalo is a real possibility, with the possibility of seeing some time in TO if he acclimates well. Reports continue to be critical of the defense, which could dictate when he reaches the majors with the Blue Jays locked in with a true DH in Morales for the next three years. P2F: Raked in the minors, and has a good batting eye to boot. 1B prospects rarely make an impact at the major league level, but there is so much to like in his game. Defense is fringy; could end up a DH. Starts at AA in 2017, but should move to AAA by the summer. He's getting close. Krylian: 1B/DH. Not athletic. Elite power and good hit tool. Maahfaace: I love this kids bat and approach, by not signing EE so far this off-season its allowed him at least a path to the majors in a season or two. Although he really looks like a full time DH at this point. TheHurl: He's a 1B prospect. No one likes those guys. Sorry Casuals like those guys. KingKat: Tellez just had a great season. He doesn’t have as many avenues to value as guys like Alford and Urena do. He absolutely has to hit but fortunately he’s doing exactly that. Jonn: From being a late round pick to "draft experts" not being that high on him all he does is hit. And yes he will be limited to First Base and that hurts his ranking. But he should be a top 5 guy and I would have liked to have found room for him. I took the conservative route. But I'm all aboard the Tellez bandwagon. I think he's going to hit and be our First Baseman of the future. He will probably break into the big leagues at some point this year. Kid can rake and has at every level. My expectations is that he will destroy AAA as well.
King Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 Sorry fellas. No shirtless pics of Tellez.
King Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 #3. Sean Reid-Foley, RHP, Dunedin Blue Jays/Lansing Lugnuts (Dec. 2015 Rank: 2) http://www.milb.com/images/656887/t424/180x270/656887.jpg http://i.imgur.com/NnjoZnt.png Highest on SRF: Jonn, Jimcanuck, Maahfaace, #1 Lowest on SRF: LetTheBallFly, #8 What The People Are Saying King: SRF is a prototypical power pitcher. He has the stuff to be a top of the rotation starter in the MLB. My main concern with him would be staying healthy, as he suffered an arm injury at the end of 2016 that went quietly unnoticed. Bobthe4th: high K/9 with mid-high 90's fastball Jimcanuck: Clicks on all parameters, K rate, age/level, control, size, demeanor Nafro: Finally figured out how to hit water if he fell out of a boat. 43211234: Reports are he's repeating his delivery much better. The command was vastly improved in 2016 while keeping the great K rate. Has a chance to be a very nice #2 or #3 starter. P2F: Strikeout machine. Made huge strides this season with his control, which was terribly inconsistent previously. Would love to see him repeat similar success in 2017 before moving him up the list. Looks like a #2/3 starter could be his ceiling. Should reach AA in 2017. Krylian: The stuff was always there, but in 2016 he added much improved control to the mix. Maahfaace: I love his make-up, he throws hard, slider is super slick out pitch, his change is progressing to be a useful pitch, although he needs to work on its deception. TheHurl: Move him quickly and get him to the back end of that pen by August (if they are competing still). Will Outpitch Osuna if they move him to the pen. KingKat: Pitching prospects are a fickle bunch. It’s really hard to predict which ones wills separate themselves from the crowd. All I can say is so far, so good for Reid-Foley Jonn: Best arm in the organization by far. Has dominated the minor leagues with electric strikeout numbers. Really excited about his future and feel he will move very quickly. Very deserving of the top spot.
King Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 And then there were 2.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 And then there were 2. The only question is the order. I have a hunch it will be Vladdy at 1 and Alford at 106.
King Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) #2. Anthony Alford, CF, Dunedin Blue Jays (Dec. 2015 Rank: 1) http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/players/head_shot/546990.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7m6qnmr.png Lowest on Anthony Alford: Todd (#11), LetTheBallFly (#9) What The People Are Saying King: Alford is an incredible athlete and has all the necessary tools to succeed at the MLB level. His speed and defense alone give him a floor of a 4th outfielder, and his bat will determine just how good he can be. Bobthe4th: concentrating on baseball only and injury free, looking forward to see what he can do in 2017 Spats: I have watched Alford since he made baseball his preference, including a few games in A ball last April. Unfortunately, he got hurt and I didn't get to see much of him until I went to the Arizona Fall League. I predict that he will be the Jays centre-fielder within 2 years...hope to see him in Buffalo this year. Jimcanuck: 5 tools, high floor, power increased in 2016 but needs to get K rate down Nafro: The new AA has the systems most exciting all round tools. NJH: He wasn't awesome in 2016 but he had some crippling injuries and he gets a complete mulligan from me. He has all the tools, and his walk rates make me giddy. High floor and a high ceiling. Proximity to the big leagues is the main reason he's above Guerrero for me, even though Guerrero's offensive upside blows Alford's out of the water. LetTheBallFly: Looks like he is healthy finally and really is putting it all together. 43121234: A surprisingly risky top prospect in a system suddenly as deep and solid as the Blue Jays'. Alford has a strong mix of speed and power. The strikeouts are high but he has shown the ability to take walks. The reports on his defense in CF are encouraging, yet such things are often a wildcard. P2F: Injuries de-railed his 2016 season, but the underlying talent was still evident. He turned it around in the second half of the season and looked more like the Alford of 2015. Big, exciting things are on the way. Krylian: 5 Tool Talent. The sky is the limit. Maahfaace: His 2nd half was nice to see, and he's tearing it up in the AFL. If he continues to develop he could see a cup of coffee in the show next september, his approach is so advanced that it would probably not overwhelm him. TheHurl: He's got to show that he's healthy and can improve the K rate. Until he does I won't give in to his upside. But I give in that he's got upside KingKat: I have been a huge Alford skeptic from the start. I’m still an Alford skeptic to some extent but he’s reaching the 1000 PA threshold in the AFL and coincidentally or not seems to be breaking out. The career 30% K percentage is an obvious red flag but comes with enough caveats for cautious optimism. I'm not so much endorsing him a hedging my bets by putting him this high (#2). Jonn: Late start to his Baseball career being a multi sport athlete. But his talent is off the charts. On upside alone he's probably #1 but after an injury plagued season people were a little down on him. However when he got healthy he put up great numbers and showed what he can do when healthy. This fall he's tearing up the AFL so he continues to impress and remains one of our most exciting prospects. Edited November 17, 2016 by KingKat
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 Now we get to find out who is #1
King Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 And your #1 Blue Jays prospect for the 2017 season...
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 And your #1 Blue Jays prospect for the 2017 season... Who all had Alford #1?
King Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 #1. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. (Dec. 2015 Rank: 4) Lowest on Vlad Jr: BBBB (#7) What The People Are Saying King: Vlad Jr. has the pedigree and talent to become a middle of the order masher in the MLB. The risk here is how young he is - a lot could become exposed as he moves up the minor league ladder, and the question marks surrounding his defense. If he can be an average defender at 3B then his future value goes way up. But the bat will be the carrying tool here. Bobthe4th: elite potential and he's 17. 17! Spats: I've been going to Dunedin for spring training for a number of years and usually stay well into April where I get a chance to see the younger players who haven't been assigned to full season clubs and watch some A ball. Of all the players I have personally seen over the years, no one excites me more than Vlad Jr...great plate discipline for a 17/18 year old and the ball jumps off his bat. You see a lot of players down there and most just blend in...he stood out. Pendleton: I'd usually have a tough time ranking a prospect this high without seeing how they adapt to the upper minors but the potential in this bat is too tantalizing to ignore. By most accounts he has the potential to be the best pure hitter the Jays have ever developed and that upside trumps his limited pro exposure. Jimcanuck: superstar potential Nafro: I'll start it now. "VGJ" or "Baby Vlad" as nickname for this potential monster masher. LetTheBallFly: Amazing set of skills offensively. Everything you want in a top prospect; power, contact, pitch recognition, ability to hit to all fields. Might make the Majors in 2018 (September callup). 43211234: Strong showing in the Appy league while being it's youngest player. The walk and strikeout rates are very encouraging. Reports suggest he's in much better shape than a year ago and there's at least a chance he could stick at 3B. P2F: Quite the debut for VGJ. Even though he will likely have to move from third base in the future, the power is legit and the hit tool is good enough. Likely a 1B in the majors. Comparable offensive upside to EE, but a long ways away still. Krylian: Hit tool and power potential is elite. Being able to stay at 3B for the entire season was an unexpected surprise. Maahfaace: Kid is all bat, I just wish he was more athletic, as it looks like he will probably be a DH/1B type which is really disappointing. TheHurl: Anyone who has followed what I like in a prospect has to know that I am huge on Vlad as I never give young un's their due KingKat: I really need to learn to be wary of numbers in the low minors but when all the reports on a player are so glowing; it’s really hard not to get carried away in the hype. There just don’t seem to be any real negatives here other than he’s still very young and it’s very early in his development. Doesn’t seem like this bandwagon is going to slow down anytime soon so might as well get on. Jonn: He will be our #1 prospect at some point its just difficult for me to place a 17 year old who hasn't played a year of full season ball any higher than 5 right now. His defensive future is unknown. Playing 3rd base right now. His power potential extremely exciting. His plate discipline at such a young age incredible. He's not the athlete his Dad was but looks to be a good base runner with a strong arm. He could be one of the best hitting prospects developed by the Blue Jays when its all said and done.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 Thanks so much for putting this together, King. You did a bang-up job with it. And a thank you to everyone that contributed - this was a lot of fun.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 Well done King. That was fun...let's do it again next week.
King Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 And here is what you guys have been waiting for. The individual lists. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a5vzRVH9r_kPRhk2gL-_e5xyVKhBX2ud6XUFicf29qg/edit?usp=sharing Tear each other apart!
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 Awesome King!!! Thanks Lil buddy 347 members online and no game, impressive !!! Good job Hurl and King on promoting this. To all those out there watching... Welcome one and All to the BJMB, come on in!!!
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 And here is what you guys have been waiting for. The individual lists. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a5vzRVH9r_kPRhk2gL-_e5xyVKhBX2ud6XUFicf29qg/edit?usp=sharing Tear each other apart! Oh nooo I am doomed, doomed I tell you... More Rum Stat!!! Lol
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 Who all had Alford #1? Me.
King Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 Thanks all for following along. Other events coming up in the BJMB land. - Forum Awards (early December 2016). - Hottest Jays ranking (should be Mid December to late December, at least that's the way it was last year) And if you haven't. Follow us on the twitter,
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 I missed Maese on the list I submitted cause I was rushing. I have him #10, dropping Perdomo out of my Top 15.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 It's Ruined! I checked. The rankings wouldn't have changed. Disaster avoided.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 The principal would like to see 43211234 regarding his comments as they appear to have a 100% match on turnitin.com
King Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 I missed Maese on the list I submitted cause I was rushing. I have him #10, dropping Perdomo out of my Top 15. I can change it. Luckily it doesn't change any placements in the rankings.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 I can change it. Luckily it doesn't change any placements in the rankings. Sounds even better when you say it.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 Now to hire Hackers and break into the bluejays top 30 list and replace it with ours... Long Live the Real one and only BJMB!!! Go Jays Go... Clap Clap Clap!!! You Gotta Love this Place...
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 I can change it. Luckily it doesn't change any placements in the rankings. My blurb would be: Great sinker that sits 91-94. Good slider. Working on a changeup. Lacks a swing and miss out pitch at this point. If that comes, his ceiling rises a lot.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 The principal would like to see 43211234 regarding his comments as they appear to have a 100% match on turnitin.com Busted... Ha Ha! You gonna get it now...Run man Rum!!! Lol
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 The principal would like to see 43211234 regarding his comments as they appear to have a 100% match on turnitin.com It's like that time George Harrison turned He's So Fine into My Sweet Lord.
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