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Lincecum has been terrible and in decline for 4 straight years. He would get absolutely hammered in the AL. He's probably not even as good as Biagini or Floyd at this point.
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Lincecum has been terrible and in decline for 4 straight years. He would get absolutely hammered in the AL. He's probably not even as good as Biagini or Floyd at this point.

 

But that flow tho

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1.) Lincecum is close to signing with the Angels and I'm sure they are giving him a rotation spot

 

2.) It's Buehrle and he has unofficially retired and stated the only reason why he hasn't handed in his papers is to mess with the media

 

@ Dinger He has been terrible, and chances are he is done as a starter, but I think he can still be decent in the pen. He's by no means done

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A few people said it yesterday, but I think the key to turning this team around isn't to add depth a la Lincecum to the bullpen, which has obviously struggled. This team goes as Bautista, Donaldson, Encarnacion, Tulo and Martin goes.

 

We're cooked if these guys don't turn things around.

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@ Dinger He has been terrible, and chances are he is done as a starter, but I think he can still be decent in the pen. He's by no means done

 

He's very much done. He doesn't even have enticing RP splits, he's like a true talent 4.30 guy now who would probably sport a 5+ ERA in the AL East.

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He's very much done. He doesn't even have enticing RP splits, he's like a true talent 4.30 guy now who would probably sport a 5+ ERA in the AL East.

 

lol I just checked the velocity, I swear I thought he could still throw 92...he was down to 87, what?? when did this happen?

 

Stand corrected

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He's very much done. He doesn't even have enticing RP splits, he's like a true talent 4.30 guy now who would probably sport a 5+ ERA in the AL East.

 

There was surgery and health issues in there. I think he is in better shape now than in the past.

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His cheeseburger and milkshake diet was only going to take him so far. Just because you aren't getting fat doesn't mean its not taking its toll lol.
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Damn baseball can be brutal.

Kid was on top of the world pitching like an ace and suddenly it's all gone.

 

Not that it wasn't predictable though. Back in the day of the whole Lincecum/Rios half-fantasy, half-reality deal, the two main arguments against the Jays doing it were:

 

1. Lincecum's mechanics make him look like he'll implode at any moment.

 

2. Rios was the only hitter on the Jays with a pulse.

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His cheeseburger and milkshake diet was only going to take him so far. Just because you aren't getting fat doesn't mean its not taking its toll lol.

 

Small guys just can't hold velocity after 1000 or so innings, he was always going to be a shooting star.

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Small guys just can't hold velocity after 1000 or so innings, he was always going to be a shooting star.

 

Same theory go for Stroman?

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Show us that you are at least trying to shore up the pen. It may not work but he is the best arm sitting at home. Where's Beurhle?

 

We should sign Mariano Rivera, too. He was good one time. Also, the Angels are probably gonna be rebuilding, why not go out and nab Jered Weaver?

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Same theory go for Stroman?

 

Yep. Stroman will be topping out in the high 80s by the time he's 30, possibly much sooner. He's already lost 1.6 MPH since 2014 and he's only at 91.9 now. He'll probably just be scratching 90 when he's around 28.

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Yep. Stroman will be topping out in the high 80s by the time he's 30, possibly much sooner. He's already lost 1.6 MPH since 2014 and he's only at 91.9 now. He'll probably just be scratching 90 when he's around 28.

 

Is it his 4-seamer that's 91.9 or his 2-seamer. Those are two very different pitches and he's essentially abandoned his 4-seamer.

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lol I just checked the velocity, I swear I thought he could still throw 92...he was down to 87, what?? when did this happen?

 

Stand corrected

 

It's all the weed.

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Is it his 4-seamer that's 91.9 or his 2-seamer. Those are two very different pitches and he's essentially abandoned his 4-seamer.

 

It really doesn't matter, his avg FB velo is what it is. When you sacrifice velocity for movement, over time, you can't just snap your fingers and get the velo back.

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Yeah, Stroman seems like the type of pitcher who you use for six years and then let go to free agency, which sucks because he's such a likable guy.
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It really doesn't matter, his avg FB velo is what it is. When you sacrifice velocity for movement, over time, you can't just snap your fingers and get the velo back.

 

Huh? If he's throwing a different pitch, such as a cutter or 2 seamer and your comparing that velocity to the velocity of his 4 seamer in 2014 - and concluding that he's losing velocity......dats dumn.

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Huh? If he's throwing a different pitch, such as a cutter or 2 seamer and your comparing that velocity to the velocity of his 4 seamer in 2014 - and concluding that he's losing velocity......dats dumn.

 

His four seam has dropped from 93.6 to 92.2 (and usage to almost nil). The two seam has dropped from 92.8 to 92.0 (and usage up from 13 to almost 50)

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He's very much done. He doesn't even have enticing RP splits, he's like a true talent 4.30 guy now who would probably sport a 5+ ERA in the AL East.

He'd fit right in!!!

 

Jokes aside, might as well give the ball to an electric guy who was once great for a shot versus the constant rotation of 'Generic MiLB reliever' that we've been getting

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