GDT: Blue Jays (10-12) vs White Sox (15-6) 7.07pm 3/3

[Angrioter]

"One hit wonder" team.

 

2015 was the last year-window for the jays

[vdubmvp]

Hitting pitches away when they're on the outer half seems to work.

 

Every time I see your name I get that stupid MacGruber theme song in my head.

[Praxis]

Thanks to all for the reply on Dickey's contract btw. Honestly I'm going to tune into Nicolino's first start for the Marlins in a few minutes.

 

I know, I know, quitter!

[glory]

This season has definitely been an eye-opener on Russel Martin.

 

The strike outs are really worrisome. I was expecting a drop off from him towards year 3-5, and was OK with that if he put up great seasons in years 1-2, but a decline in year 2 would be horrendous. Definitely think the Jays should cut bait with him after this season (same with Tulo) just to avoid having to pay them during their major decline years, but finding a team to take them (in Martin's case) or getting equal value (in Tulo's case, never mind the NTC) will be tough.

 

2015 was memorable and all, and there's still time to turn 2016 around, but I'm looking long haul. The window is closing. Win or lose in 2016, they have to make some decisions on the 30-somethings that will be clogging up $20m AAV into their mid 30's.

[Statman]

-6 run differential...gross

[Belliss101]

I don't know what if your boss offered you half of what you currently make at half the lenght

 

Guess you will jumping all the way to first

 

Shapiro already murdered the spirit of this team. Let's just move on

 

Yet another idiot blaming Shapiro. Some of you people are clueless. Either that or you're just AA fanboys

[BTS]

The strike outs are really worrisome. I was expecting a drop off from him towards year 3-5, and was OK with that if he put up great seasons in years 1-2, but a decline in year 2 would be horrendous. Definitely think the Jays should cut bait with him after this season (same with Tulo) just to avoid having to pay them during their major decline years, but finding a team to take them (in Martin's case) or getting equal value (in Tulo's case, never mind the NTC) will be tough.

 

2015 was memorable and all, and there's still time to turn 2016 around, but I'm looking long haul. The window is closing. Win or lose in 2016, they have to make some decisions on the 30-somethings that will be clogging up $20m AAV into their mid 30's.

 

The more I think about it, the more I hope they walk away from Bautista and Edwin. We might be seeing first hand the downside of guys signed to 20M contracts into their late 30s. Adding one or two more to Tulo and Martin would be scary.

 

Extend Donaldson though!

[Statman]

Russell Martin -0.4 WAR before tonight's game and trending downward.

[closetjaysfan]

hmmm so gavin floyd was available but we didnt use him in the 7th when it mattered

[KinofChaos]

The strike outs are really worrisome. I was expecting a drop off from him towards year 3-5, and was OK with that if he put up great seasons in years 1-2, but a decline in year 2 would be horrendous. Definitely think the Jays should cut bait with him after this season (same with Tulo) just to avoid having to pay them during their major decline years, but finding a team to take them (in Martin's case) or getting equal value (in Tulo's case, never mind the NTC) will be tough.

 

2015 was memorable and all, and there's still time to turn 2016 around, but I'm looking long haul. The window is closing. Win or lose in 2016, they have to make some decisions on the 30-somethings that will be clogging up $20m AAV into their mid 30's.

Good post. Looks like last year was their chance but they blew it in games 2 and 6. They still might turn this year around but I am starting to doubt it. Martin and tulo are brutal right now as us the bullpen.

[jackie]

this game reminds me of the early disappointing games of the 2014 season.

[Statman]

The more I think about it, the more I hope they walk away from Bautista and Edwin. We might be seeing first hand the downside of guys signed to 20M contracts into their late 30s. Adding one or two more to Tulo and Martin would be scary.

 

Extend Donaldson though!

 

Yup. QO offers for Bautista and Encarnacion and let them walk. Extend Donaldson long term and build around Donaldson, Stroman, Travis, Sanchez and Osuna

[fatcowxlive]

Hanger holy f*** swing

[TorontonianJD]

If Dickey is taken out of the rotation, it will be Floyd who gets to start, not Hutchison.

 

Are you sure about that? Then who replaces Floyd in the pen?

[Praxis]

Yet another idiot blaming Shapiro. Some of you people are clueless. Either that or you're just AA fanboys

 

Shaprio was in a no-win situation after last season I think. If he cut bait and started the rebuild he would have been crucified, but by holding the team largely together we are currently seeing a pretty poor return on his gamble.

 

He'll be given time to turn this around properly though.

[Angrioter]

The more I think about it, the more I hope they walk away from Bautista and Edwin. We might be seeing first hand the downside of guys signed to 20M contracts into their late 30s. Adding one or two more to Tulo and Martin would be scary.

 

Extend Donaldson though!

 

Why?

He's almost 30, and Devon, Pompey, Sanchez and Stroman isn't a good core to win now

[BTS]

Shaprio was in a no-win situation after last season I think. If he cut bait and started the rebuild he would have been crucified, but by holding the team largely together we are currently seeing a pretty poor return on his gamble.

 

He'll be given time to turn this around properly though.

 

Very calculated offseason by him: leave AA's team intact, add a few arms on short contracts. If they win, great. If they lose, it was the same group as 2015 and the new regime hasn't added a single long term deal.

[Belliss101]

4 Ks for Martin! haha

[Statman]

lol@ Russell Martin

[THANOS]

Martin needs to be put on the DL or something, get him the f*** off this roster.

[Effit]

f***ing gross.

[BTS]

Why?

He's almost 30, and Devon, Pompey, Sanchez and Stroman isn't a good core to win now

 

Because I love him and he's a boss, that's why.

[ValiantJaysFan]

This is so depressing

[KinofChaos]

I miss Navarro.

[Inklink]

So friggin frustrating.

[Statman]

Very calculated offseason by him: leave AA's team intact, add a few arms on short contracts. If they win, great. If they lose, it was the same group as 2016 and the new regime hasn't added a single long term deal.

 

Yup. Shapiro played this out perfectly. Let the rebuild begin! Are you going to start a thread?

[closetjaysfan]

first home sweep in 3 years...

[BTS]

Yay, golden sombrero for Martin!

[fatcowxlive]

The sox are 16-6??? Wow

[BTS]

Yup. Shapiro played this out perfectly. Let the rebuild begin! Are you going to start a thread?

 

Nope. I'm still recovering from my heel turn.