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devo College Ball

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What's the status on that stud Japanese pitcher/hitter...is he coming to the US next year?

 

Article says hes not eligible to play in the ML until he has 7 years service in the Japan league. But maybe if he moved to the US to finish high school he could skirt those rules somehow. Just speculating here.

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Article says hes not eligible to play in the ML until he has 7 years service in the Japan league. But maybe if he moved to the US to finish high school he could skirt those rules somehow. Just speculating here.

 

In that case he should move to some other country to avoid the draft.

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In that case he should move to some other country to avoid the draft.

 

Since he is 16 if he moved somewhere like Germany or whatever could we sign him immediately (as soon as he established residence outside of Japan)

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Yeah I mean it's possible although a team may just not even want Cola or Goins unless they value them as org depth.

 

But last year we traded 3 bums in A-ball for Mark Lowe. We also got Grilli for nothing this year.

 

Mark Lowe was utter crap though.

Brownie19 New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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Article says hes not eligible to play in the ML until he has 7 years service in the Japan league. But maybe if he moved to the US to finish high school he could skirt those rules somehow. Just speculating here.

 

I'm not talking about this 16 year old kid. I'm talking the stud they've been talking about for a few years. I don't remember his name though. He's like 25.

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Mark Lowe was utter crap though.

 

I guess it was SSS, but Lowe was completely different on the Jays. K% dropped from 11.75 to 6.63, GB% went from 36% to 46%, BB% dropped from 2.75 to 0.47, velocity was up a tick, effectiveness was down. Very bizarre. Did Walker tell him to pitch to contact???

 

Glad we avoiding that ticking time bomb this offseason.

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I'm not talking about this 16 year old kid. I'm talking the stud they've been talking about for a few years. I don't remember his name though. He's like 25.

 

shohei otani

 

he will be posted in 2019

devo College Ball

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I'm not talking about this 16 year old kid. I'm talking the stud they've been talking about for a few years. I don't remember his name though. He's like 25.

 

You must be talking about Shohei Otani then. Hes in his 4th JPPL season so hes still got a few years to go. Got to imagine he ends up in the NL when he finally makes the transition to the ML though.

Jonn MVP

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Since he is 16 if he moved somewhere like Germany or whatever could we sign him immediately (as soon as he established residence outside of Japan)

 

I like this idea.

Spanky99 GOAT

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I'm not talking about this 16 year old kid. I'm talking the stud they've been talking about for a few years. I don't remember his name though. He's like 25.

 

Shohei Otani, I think he has 4 years service(started right out of high school), still another 3 years, he's only 22.

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Darwin playing left field (lol) and hitting lead off (srsly Gibby?)

 

This beyond stupid...also why the hell is Travis not leading off

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Brownie19 New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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Shohei Otani, I think he has 4 years service(started right out of high school), still another 3 years, he's only 22.

 

Well that sucks. Let players play at the highest level. Stupid.

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It wouldn't work, it goes against there bargaining agreement with the MLB.

 

but how does that work if the kid leaves Japan several years before the end of high school? What if he left Japan when he was 5 years old instead of 16, then could he come to MLB immediately? how many years must you play in Japan before you are subject to the rules of the agreement?

Spanky99 GOAT

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Well that sucks. Let players play at the highest level. Stupid.

 

Meh, I bet he signs on with a West Coast NL team, so he's close to Japan and can hit. On his off days he plays LF and DH's, lol.

Spanky99 GOAT

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but how does that work if the kid leaves Japan several years before the end of high school? What if he left Japan when he was 5 years old instead of 16, then could he come to MLB immediately? how many years must you play in Japan before you are subject to the rules of the agreement?

 

Obviously, and I'm not sure.

Spanky99 GOAT

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This beyond stupid...also why the hell is Travis leading off

 

Saunders sitting against the LHP, Barney can play the OF. Travis isn't leading off, Barney is?

Brownie19 New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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Bautista

 

Why would he? It eliminates the draft pick compensation and they're as much of a playoff team as the Jays are.

 

If I'm the Jays - I'd do this trade - and it's actually something I could see happening...

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I can't believe Buck agreed to that.

 

All that free Shock Top he probably took as payment.

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