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Angrioter · April 18, 2016

Aaron Sanchez 4/17/2016 vs Boston @ Fenway

105 pitches

6 whiffs

5,7% Whiffs

http://snag.gy/lgRCm.jpg

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/location.php-pitchSel=592717&game=gid_2016_04_17_tormlb_bosmlb_1&batterX=&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=&league=mlb&pnf=&zlpo=&cache=1.gif

Cyborg · April 18, 2016

Only one changeup is dumn. Why has he stopped throwing it?!?!

Angrioter · April 18, 2016

Only one changeup is dumn. Why has he stopped throwing it?!?!

Sanchez is pitching for "results". While his ERA are low, his repertoire also is going to be reduced. Very dumb

burlingtonbandit · April 18, 2016

Only one changeup is dumn. Why has he stopped throwing it?!?!

My guess is he thinks its too hard at 91 MPH. Martin seems to be the one not calling it though. Sanchez actually had to shake 3 times to throw the 1 yesterday.

Angrioter · April 19, 2016

Thor against Phillies 4/18/2016

94 pitches

17 whiffs

18% whiffs

Angrioter · April 19, 2016

Eickhoff curveball 20% Whiffs

Angrioter · April 26, 2016

Stroman against WSox 4/25/2016

95 pitches

10 whiffs

10.5% whiffs

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/location.php?pitchSel=573186&game=gid_2016_04_25_chamlb_tormlb_1/&batterX=&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=&league=mlb&pnf=&zlpo=

THANOS · April 30, 2016

Sanchez against the Rays 4/29/2016

103 pitches

12 whiffs

11.7% whiffs

Edited April 30, 2016 by THANOS

bones10 · April 30, 2016

Sorry - whats a good amount of whiffs and %?

THANOS · April 30, 2016

Sorry - whats a good amount of whiffs and %?

Not 100% sure, but according to fangraphs, any SwStr% above 9.5 is good.

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/offense/plate-discipline/

EDIT: just found this.

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/swinging-strike-benchmarks-for-pitch-types/

Cyborg · April 30, 2016

Sorry - whats a good amount of whiffs and %?

10 and up is above average.

Cyborg · April 30, 2016

Sanchez against the Rays 4/29/2016
103 pitches
12 whiffs
10.7% whiffs

11.6% you mean.

THANOS · April 30, 2016

11.6% you mean.

Sorry, you're right, don't know how I messed that up lol.

Tonight told us that the change-up is still an inconsistent pitch, which might be why his usage changes every start.

John_Havok · April 30, 2016

Sorry, you're right, don't know how I messed that up lol.

Tonight told us that the change-up is still an inconsistent pitch, which might be why his usage changes every start.

The more surprising number to me is the complete reversal of 2seam/4 seam usage. Granted there's probably a few 2 seamer that got classified as 4s, but still compared to his other starts, the difference is pretty huge

Cyborg · April 30, 2016

The more surprising number to me is the complete reversal of 2seam/4 seam usage. Granted there's probably a few 2 seamer that got classified as 4s, but still compared to his other starts, the difference is pretty huge

As tagged by Pitch Info:

[TABLE=width: 100%]

[TR]

[TD]Pitch Type[/TD]

[TD]Velo (Max)[/TD]

[TD]H-Break[/TD]

[TD]V-Break[/TD]

[TD]Count[/TD]

[TD]Strikes / %[/TD]

[TD]Swings / %[/TD]

[TD]Whiffs / %[/TD]

[TD]BIP (No Out)[/TD]

[TD]SNIPs / %[/TD]

[TD]LWTS[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]FA (Fastball)[/TD]

[TD]94.9 (97.1)[/TD]

[TD]-5.11[/TD]

[TD]9.36[/TD]

[TD]21[/TD]

[TD]15 / 71.4%[/TD]

[TD]7 / 33.3%[/TD]

[TD]5 / 23.8%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]1 (0)[/TD]

[TD]14 / 70.0%[/TD]

[TD]-0.85[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]SI (Sinker)[/TD]

[TD]95.5 (98.0)[/TD]

[TD]-9.16[/TD]

[TD]7.07[/TD]

[TD]50[/TD]

[TD]37 / 74.0%[/TD]

[TD]28 / 56.0%[/TD]

[TD]5 / 10.0%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]14 (3)[/TD]

[TD]23 / 63.9%[/TD]

[TD]-0.64[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]CH (Changeup)[/TD]

[TD]89.4 (91.6)[/TD]

[TD]-10.41[/TD]

[TD]3.56[/TD]

[TD]10[/TD]

[TD]4 / 40.0%[/TD]

[TD]3 / 30.0%[/TD]

[TD]0 / 0.0%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]2 (1)[/TD]

[TD]2 / 25.0%[/TD]

[TD]0.39[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]CU (Curveball)[/TD]

[TD]78.7 (80.8)[/TD]

[TD]7.77[/TD]

[TD]-10.01[/TD]

[TD]22[/TD]

[TD]15 / 68.2%[/TD]

[TD]10 / 45.5%[/TD]

[TD]2 / 9.1%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]3 (1)[/TD]

[TD]12 / 63.2%[/TD]

[TD]-0.59[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

THANOS · April 30, 2016

As tagged by Pitch Info:

[TABLE=width: 100%]
[TR]
[TD]Pitch Type[/TD]
[TD]Velo (Max)[/TD]
[TD]H-Break[/TD]
[TD]V-Break[/TD]
[TD]Count[/TD]
[TD]Strikes / %[/TD]
[TD]Swings / %[/TD]
[TD]Whiffs / %[/TD]
[TD]BIP (No Out)[/TD]
[TD]SNIPs / %[/TD]
[TD]LWTS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FA (Fastball)[/TD]
[TD]94.9 (97.1)[/TD]
[TD]-5.11[/TD]
[TD]9.36[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]15 / 71.4%[/TD]
[TD]7 / 33.3%[/TD]
[TD]5 / 23.8%[/TD]
[TD=align: right]1 (0)[/TD]
[TD]14 / 70.0%[/TD]
[TD]-0.85[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SI (Sinker)[/TD]
[TD]95.5 (98.0)[/TD]
[TD]-9.16[/TD]
[TD]7.07[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[TD]37 / 74.0%[/TD]
[TD]28 / 56.0%[/TD]
[TD]5 / 10.0%[/TD]
[TD=align: right]14 (3)[/TD]
[TD]23 / 63.9%[/TD]
[TD]-0.64[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CH (Changeup)[/TD]
[TD]89.4 (91.6)[/TD]
[TD]-10.41[/TD]
[TD]3.56[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]4 / 40.0%[/TD]
[TD]3 / 30.0%[/TD]
[TD]0 / 0.0%[/TD]
[TD=align: right]2 (1)[/TD]
[TD]2 / 25.0%[/TD]
[TD]0.39[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CU (Curveball)[/TD]
[TD]78.7 (80.8)[/TD]
[TD]7.77[/TD]
[TD]-10.01[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]15 / 68.2%[/TD]
[TD]10 / 45.5%[/TD]
[TD]2 / 9.1%[/TD]
[TD=align: right]3 (1)[/TD]
[TD]12 / 63.2%[/TD]
[TD]-0.59[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

That's so peculiar that his 2SM is routinely faster than his 4SM. I wonder why that is? Conventional wisdom would suggest the opposite because of the grip.

John_Havok · April 30, 2016

As tagged by Pitch Info:

[TABLE=width: 100%]
[TR]
[TD]Pitch Type[/TD]
[TD]Velo (Max)[/TD]
[TD]H-Break[/TD]
[TD]V-Break[/TD]
[TD]Count[/TD]
[TD]Strikes / %[/TD]
[TD]Swings / %[/TD]
[TD]Whiffs / %[/TD]
[TD]BIP (No Out)[/TD]
[TD]SNIPs / %[/TD]
[TD]LWTS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FA (Fastball)[/TD]
[TD]94.9 (97.1)[/TD]
[TD]-5.11[/TD]
[TD]9.36[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]15 / 71.4%[/TD]
[TD]7 / 33.3%[/TD]
[TD]5 / 23.8%[/TD]
[TD=align: right]1 (0)[/TD]
[TD]14 / 70.0%[/TD]
[TD]-0.85[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SI (Sinker)[/TD]
[TD]95.5 (98.0)[/TD]
[TD]-9.16[/TD]
[TD]7.07[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[TD]37 / 74.0%[/TD]
[TD]28 / 56.0%[/TD]
[TD]5 / 10.0%[/TD]
[TD=align: right]14 (3)[/TD]
[TD]23 / 63.9%[/TD]
[TD]-0.64[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CH (Changeup)[/TD]
[TD]89.4 (91.6)[/TD]
[TD]-10.41[/TD]
[TD]3.56[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]4 / 40.0%[/TD]
[TD]3 / 30.0%[/TD]
[TD]0 / 0.0%[/TD]
[TD=align: right]2 (1)[/TD]
[TD]2 / 25.0%[/TD]
[TD]0.39[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CU (Curveball)[/TD]
[TD]78.7 (80.8)[/TD]
[TD]7.77[/TD]
[TD]-10.01[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]15 / 68.2%[/TD]
[TD]10 / 45.5%[/TD]
[TD]2 / 9.1%[/TD]
[TD=align: right]3 (1)[/TD]
[TD]12 / 63.2%[/TD]
[TD]-0.59[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Interesting that 2 sources would have his pitch usage reversed. Hive his history though I'm more inclined to believe what you posted as more accurate. Theres not many pitchers that would reverse their pitch usages that drastically from one start to another

John_Havok · April 30, 2016

As tagged by Pitch Info:

[TABLE=width: 100%]
[TR]
[TD]Pitch Type[/TD]
[TD]Velo (Max)[/TD]
[TD]H-Break[/TD]
[TD]V-Break[/TD]
[TD]Count[/TD]
[TD]Strikes / %[/TD]
[TD]Swings / %[/TD]
[TD]Whiffs / %[/TD]
[TD]BIP (No Out)[/TD]
[TD]SNIPs / %[/TD]
[TD]LWTS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]FA (Fastball)[/TD]
[TD]94.9 (97.1)[/TD]
[TD]-5.11[/TD]
[TD]9.36[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]15 / 71.4%[/TD]
[TD]7 / 33.3%[/TD]
[TD]5 / 23.8%[/TD]
[TD=align: right]1 (0)[/TD]
[TD]14 / 70.0%[/TD]
[TD]-0.85[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SI (Sinker)[/TD]
[TD]95.5 (98.0)[/TD]
[TD]-9.16[/TD]
[TD]7.07[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[TD]37 / 74.0%[/TD]
[TD]28 / 56.0%[/TD]
[TD]5 / 10.0%[/TD]
[TD=align: right]14 (3)[/TD]
[TD]23 / 63.9%[/TD]
[TD]-0.64[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CH (Changeup)[/TD]
[TD]89.4 (91.6)[/TD]
[TD]-10.41[/TD]
[TD]3.56[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]4 / 40.0%[/TD]
[TD]3 / 30.0%[/TD]
[TD]0 / 0.0%[/TD]
[TD=align: right]2 (1)[/TD]
[TD]2 / 25.0%[/TD]
[TD]0.39[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CU (Curveball)[/TD]
[TD]78.7 (80.8)[/TD]
[TD]7.77[/TD]
[TD]-10.01[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]15 / 68.2%[/TD]
[TD]10 / 45.5%[/TD]
[TD]2 / 9.1%[/TD]
[TD=align: right]3 (1)[/TD]
[TD]12 / 63.2%[/TD]
[TD]-0.59[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

His change is still too hard to be and effective swing and miss pitch. Really need that velocity difference to be around 8-10 mph

Overall though, it was a better mix. Now if he could just learn a cutter....

Cyborg · April 30, 2016

Interesting that 2 sources would have his pitch usage reversed. Hive his history though I'm more inclined to believe what you posted as more accurate. Theres not many pitchers that would reverse their pitch usages that drastically from one start to another

PitchFX is an algorithm. Pitch Info is a person.

John_Havok · April 30, 2016

PitchFX is an algorithm. Pitch Info is a person.

Pretty big error bars then. Both systems tell us the same thing overall tho if his goal is more swing and miss.....he should throw the 4 seamer more, needs to lose about 4 mph off his change and needs a cutter to neutralize lefties better

Jimcanuck · April 30, 2016

Pretty big error bars then. Both systems tell us the same thing overall tho if his goal is more swing and miss.....he should throw the 4 seamer more, needs to lose about 4 mph off his change and needs a cutter to neutralize lefties better

Then he'll be an ace

John_Havok · May 1, 2016

Then he'll be an ace

Not quite. Still needs better command for that

THANOS · May 1, 2016

Stroman against the Rays 5/1/2016

103 pitches

13 whiffs

12.7% whiffs% (Good => 9.5)

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