Gibby's Contract Altered. Multi Year Deal. No Rollover

[TDotttt2005]

[BTS]

Good. His old contract was dumn.

[HERPDERP]

phew. no wedge then

[Sammy225]

Not the smartest manager in the game but defiantly the coolest:

 

 

Zero f***s given by this outsider.

[Laika]

They'll have to have either given him a raise, or offered him 3 years guaranteed in order to get him to sign a new contract because I'm pretty sure that as of January 1st he was already guaranteed through 2017.

[AdamGreenwood]

I can't believe we're still letting him helm this team.

 

His management of the pitching staff last year was abominable.

[Swervin81]

Somewhere, Eric Wedge is weeping softly.

[Dr. Dinger]

I can't believe we're still letting him helm this team.

 

His management of the pitching staff last year was abominable.

 

Really? I kinda like Gibby 2.0. He's a hell of a lot more palatable than Cito, or Papa John's bizarre CS-to-end-the-inning trick plays.

[Brownie19]

Not the smartest manager in the game but defiantly the coolest:

 

 

Zero f***s given by this outsider.

 

"hey you pair who didn't get the memo about wearing a suit....get on the ends!"

[Laika]

I like how Buck Showalter can't even pretend not to be a miserable ******* for one second for a photo

[closetjaysfan]

Really? I kinda like Gibby 2.0. He's a hell of a lot more palatable than Cito, or Papa John's bizarre CS-to-end-the-inning trick plays.

 

By comparing him to Cito are you saying he is a good manager? because that is a pretty low bar in most people's minds. He isnt good at anything really. In some cases he is downright terrible ie: 1) Bullpen management. 2) line up decisions [Pillar lead-off would be a recent example] 3) player positioning.

 

I can only think of two instances where I was somewhat impressed with him: 1) Asking the replay crew to rule Kawasaki out at first to preserve the run at the plate ... I dont remember what game that was. 2) having pennington come in to relief pitch, and even then it was much too late.

 

Im sure we can do better than this clown.

[gbill2004]

They'll have to have either given him a raise, or offered him 3 years guaranteed in order to get him to sign a new contract because I'm pretty sure that as of January 1st he was already guaranteed through 2017.

The tweet says its through at least 2017. Probably gave him a bit of a raise too.

[jglicksm]

By comparing him to Cito are you saying he is a good manager? because that is a pretty low bar in most people's minds. He isnt good at anything really. In some cases he is downright terrible ie: 1) Bullpen management. 2) line up decisions [Pillar lead-off would be a recent example] 3) player positioning.

 

I can only think of two instances where I was somewhat impressed with him: 1) Asking the replay crew to rule Kawasaki out at first to preserve the run at the plate ... I dont remember what game that was. 2) having pennington come in to relief pitch, and even then it was much too late.

 

Im sure we can do better than this clown.

 

That was actually an amazing challenge. Here's the article about it in case anyone forgets that flash of brilliance.

 

http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/mlb/toronto-blue-jays-take-advantage-of-replay-challenge-to-have-own-runner-called-out-score-run

[burlingtonbandit]

By comparing him to Cito are you saying he is a good manager? because that is a pretty low bar in most people's minds. He isnt good at anything really. In some cases he is downright terrible ie: 1) Bullpen management. 2) line up decisions [Pillar lead-off would be a recent example] 3) player positioning.

 

I can only think of two instances where I was somewhat impressed with him: 1) Asking the replay crew to rule Kawasaki out at first to preserve the run at the plate ... I dont remember what game that was. 2) having pennington come in to relief pitch, and even then it was much too late.

 

Im sure we can do better than this clown.

 

Gibbons isn't even the one who handles player positioning. I look forward to seeing how he does this year. I'm sure the FO will give him a lot more information than what was available to him in the past.

[Captain Adama]

I like how Buck Showalter can't even pretend not to be a miserable ******* for one second for a photo

 

That was Buck Showalter? I thought Fred Phelps was still alive for a second.

[intentional wok]

They'll have to have either given him a raise, or offered him 3 years guaranteed in order to get him to sign a new contract because I'm pretty sure that as of January 1st he was already guaranteed through 2017.

 

There's probably an element of "job security" in there too. The rolling contract made Gibby a target each December and I wouldn't be surprised if seeing a new regime set up shop above his head made him sweat. He rightfully assumed Shapiro and Atkins wouldn't care for having their hands tied every January 1st on this sort of staffing decision.

 

I knew this FO would find a way to slink out of AA's silly deal with Gibby. I'm glad it didn't end up with just cutting him loose. I know some here hate him, but I think he's probably a pretty decent tactical manager compared to most other guys in MLB manager roles.

[Abomination]

They'll have to have either given him a raise, or offered him 3 years guaranteed in order to get him to sign a new contract because I'm pretty sure that as of January 1st he was already guaranteed through 2017.

 

They may have not exercised it or whatever last fall, and then negotiated a simple 2 year deal now. It's still in his best interests to sign it.

[Slade]

Sounds like no more roll over, 2 year deal and a raise.

[Boxcar]

Not the smartest manager in the game but defiantly the coolest:

 

 

Zero f***s given by this outsider.

 

man, Gibby is so awesome off the field. I can't stop laughing at this.

[closetjaysfan]

man, Gibby is so awesome off the field. I can't stop laughing at this.

 

Looks like my dad when he shows up at a wedding... jean shorts and a dress shirt (from Cabelas).

[RealAccountant]

There's probably an element of "job security" in there too. The rolling contract made Gibby a target each December and I wouldn't be surprised if seeing a new regime set up shop above his head made him sweat. He rightfully assumed Shapiro and Atkins wouldn't care for having their hands tied every January 1st on this sort of staffing decision.

 

I knew this FO would find a way to slink out of AA's silly deal with Gibby. I'm glad it didn't end up with just cutting him loose. I know some here hate him, but I think he's probably a pretty decent tactical manager compared to most other guys in MLB manager roles.

 

How is it more job secure?? If anything its less secure.

[RealAccountant]

They may have not exercised it or whatever last fall, and then negotiated a simple 2 year deal now. It's still in his best interests to sign it.

 

its really not.

 

He was under contract until 2017 anyways.

[intentional wok]

How is it more job secure?? If anything its less secure.

 

I just think the fewer times your boss needs to exercise an option on your contract, the better. The conditions of renewal are a bit of a tie to the FO's hands. They'd probably be more likely to ditch Gibby under AA's arrangement, if only to get out of it (otherwise they wouldn't have asked to re-structure to something conventional).

[shortstop]

not sure I understand this other than they all see the writing on the wall (Gibbons will be gone within 2 years and might as well make extra $'s) and front office doesn't want to be faced with a situation of jays winning & having to terminate/not renew Gibby to avoid the rollover...now, worst case, front office can just let the contract expire...

 

subtle difference (active step vs no step required) but could be the viewpoint Atkins/Shapiro had in mind...easier from a media relations standpoint to let the contract expire worst case...

 

any case, it's a win for both sides if the above is true

[Nafro]

They'll have to have either given him a raise, or offered him 3 years guaranteed in order to get him to sign a new contract because I'm pretty sure that as of January 1st he was already guaranteed through 2017.

 

They gave him a raise.

[Inklink]

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[glory]

My only solace to this news is that the last two managers to represent the AL in the World Series have been John Farrell and Ned Yost. Maybe there's a hidden advantage to having incompetence in the managerial spot.

 

The 2016 roster is pretty much dummy proof, and he still found a way to do one really stupid thing already (Pillar leading off). At least I would hope his bullpen usage, which was atrocious last season, will be a lot more efficient with Osuna/Cecil/Storen at the end of the games. I mean, that's hard to f*** up, right?

[TDotttt2005]

So if Shatkins decide to keep Gibbons in 2017, under whatever circumstances (would have to think a playoff berth or at least contention till late is what Gibby needs to keep his job), do they let him do his job in 2017 as a lame-duck, or do they add on another extension year or two?

[Spanky99]

So if Shatkins decide to keep Gibbons in 2017, under whatever circumstances (would have to think a playoff berth or at least contention till late is what Gibby needs to keep his job), do they let him do his job in 2017 as a lame-duck, or do they add on another extension year or two?

 

If they don't make the post-season they fire him and payout the remaining contract, simple.

[TDotttt2005]

If they don't make the post-season they fire him and payout the remaining contract, simple.

 

Yes, but this answers the opposite of my question.