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Zolecki tweets there's a fourth player involved.

 

If the other player is pretty inconsequential I like it for Houston. The odds of Velasquez being as good as Giles are pretty small, and a back-end soft-tosser + non top-100 prospect is a pretty fair price for the sure thing IMO.

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If the other player is pretty inconsequential I like it for Houston. The odds of Velasquez being as good as Giles are pretty small, and a back-end soft-tosser + non top-100 prospect is a pretty fair price for the sure thing IMO.

 

Velasquez showed real promise as a starter last season. I don't get why the Astros soured on him.

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Velasquez showed real promise as a starter last season. I don't get why the Astros soured on him.

 

Looks like they never really saw him as a starter. Two-pitch pitcher that they haven't trusted with a big workload.

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If the other player is pretty inconsequential I like it for Houston. The odds of Velasquez being as good as Giles are pretty small, and a back-end soft-tosser + non top-100 prospect is a pretty fair price for the sure thing IMO.

 

Pretty much. Nothing of crazy significance given up, imo. Seems totally worth it for Houston.

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Velasquez showed real promise as a starter last season. I don't get why the Astros soured on him.
^^^ Owns Velasquez in LOD
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Looks like they never really saw him as a starter. Two-pitch pitcher that they haven't trusted with a big workload.

 

Had terrific numbers as a starter in the minors. Still think he has promise as a starter.

 

 

Which works for me since I own him in the bbdl.

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^^^ Owns Velasquez in LOD

 

I'm actually excited about this deal because Velasquez should get the opportunity to start in Philly.

 

Am I wrong though? Maybe the Astros don't buy into his durability but scouts seemed to like VV and his numbers as a starter in the MLB rivaled those of McCullers, who(m?) the Astros are much higher on.

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I'm actually excited about this deal because Velasquez should get the opportunity to start in Philly.

 

Am I wrong though? Maybe the Astros don't buy into his durability but scouts seemed to like VV and his numbers as a starter in the MLB rivaled those of McCullers, who(m?) the Astros are much higher on.

 

And worse peripherals than Velasquez, mind.

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Had terrific numbers as a starter in the minors. Still think he has promise as a starter.

 

 

Which works for me since I own him in the bbdl.

^^^owns him in the BBDL

 

<----- traded him to you in the BBDL

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I think it's a crummy trade for Houston, great one for Philly. Velazquez is probably a back end reliever if they plop him in the pen right now. Likely not quite as good as Giles, but still solid. Fisher is a toolshed with plus raw, plus speed, and some demonstrated OBP skeez. Oberholtzer might not be great but he has 5 years of control left and was solid in 2014.

 

This is like Osuna + Alford + for a closer.

 

C'mon

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Whats with all the love for Heyward around here. Is the upgrade over Pillar/Pompey worth a $200M contract?

 

Holy f***

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But how good of a prospect can he be after so many years playing basketball?

 

you can leave now

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Vince Velasquez is good right now. I'd rather have him than Giles. Maybe even for 2016.

 

North WTF is happening in baseball right now?

 

Kimbrel trade is retarded

Giles trade is retarded

Greinke contract is retarded

Jose Fernandez asks are retarded

Miller trade was SUPER retarded

 

I've never seen so much stupid in such a flurry

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