The 2015 Winter Meetings (Dec 7-10)

[Laika]

Norris signed so cheaply because they gave him a rotation spot i believe. Cahill is ok but i'd rather have Chavez for 2 years. I doubt he takes the same money from the Jays.

 

Chavez' service time is already at 5.108 so he'll be a free agent next offseason

[Pulk_Pull]

Damn, I thought I accidentally clicked on the 'Offseason Roster' thread given the amount of bitching and assumptions being made with regards to how the Jays are operating this offseason.

 

Would of love Iwa on that deal but I Jays had no shot given the West Coast nature of the deal. Almost everything else feels like a bit much. I would take potentially take Sipp on that deal assuming Cecil gets a big payday next year somewhere else. I would of also liked the Cahill deal but again, who knows what the other factors are. It's not like he would be guaranteed a rotation spot or viewed Toronto as a value building org. Lowe's deal isn't terrible given it is short term but there are other RHP bullpen pieces in the sea.

[burlingtonbandit]

Norris signed so cheaply because they gave him a rotation spot i believe. Cahill is ok but i'd rather have Chavez for 2 years. I doubt he takes the same money from the Jays.

 

Chavez has only 1 year at 4.7 Million. If he had 2 years of control left a lot more people would of liked the trade. I would of rather signed Norris for 3-4 Million and said he was the 5th starter. If he s*** the bed you just take him out of the rotation.

[Frenchsoup]

Chavez' service time is already at 5.108 so he'll be a free agent next offseason

 

My bad. Yeah that's a bit different then.

[HERPDERP]

Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 1m1 minute ago

Full trade is Miley and Aro to #mariners for Elias and Carson Smith to #Redsox

[HERPDERP]

Smith = really good reliever

[GD]

Smith's mechanics are questionable right?

[Frenchsoup]

Smith's mechanics are questionable right?

 

Very, throws a ton of sliders but is young and might be able to handle it for a couple of years.

[HERPDERP]

Smith's mechanics are questionable right?

 

well now that he's a Red Sox, we can overblow all his flaws.

 

dat k/9 though.

[BTS]

Great trade for the Mariners. Damn wish we got Miley

 

I really don't see the difference between three years of Miley and five of Elias being five years of Carson Smith.

[CJ-Freeway]

The offseason has simply become a part of the spectator sport.

 

People just want to see their team do STUFF. ANY STUFF.

 

Three years for Mark Lowe! Entertain me, executives! Give me something to retweet!!!!

 

Nah. I dunno about others, but for me, tt's just common sense that our pen got weaker with Lowe leaving.

[burlingtonbandit]

I really don't see the difference between three years of Miley and five of Elias being five years of Carson Smith.

 

Yeah I read the trade wrong lol.

[Sammy225]

Red Sox Bullpen is really nice but ummmm.... Their Rotation needs more then Price + scrubs

[Frag]

Red Sox Bullpen is really nice but ummmm.... Their Rotation needs more then Price + scrubs

 

Buchholz is pretty good, when healthy.

[JaysRap]

Red Sox Bullpen is really nice but ummmm.... Their Rotation needs more then Price + scrubs

 

They're not done. They'll add another piece via trade at this point.

[Sammy225]

Buchholz is pretty good, when healthy.

 

True but his health should be more reason to want to have some depth

[JaysRap]

[Dr. Dinger]

Apparently the Chapman deal isn't set in stone yet and Cinci might still be listening to offers. This might explain why we haven't heard any deets all day.

[King]

Zobrist will sign soon. Mets seem like the favorite

[Angrioter]

I really don't see the difference between three years of Miley and five of Elias being five years of Carson Smith.

 

Jays will eat Elias alive

[King]

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Soria will have IP and GS in 25M, 3-yr royals deal. Hasn't started since 2006, but may like to try again

 

 

 

 

 

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Wut?

[King]

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 1m1 minute ago

Marlins said to be seeking "5 or 6" great young players in trade for Jose, one gm says. Many MLB ready too.

 

Stroman + Travis + Pompey + Osuna + Sanchez

[Cyborg]

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Soria will have IP and GS in 25M, 3-yr royals deal. Hasn't started since 2006, but may like to try again

 

 

 

 

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Wut?

Ya it was reported a few days ago he wanted GS incentives. Wants to start.

[xposbrad]

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 1m1 minute ago

Marlins said to be seeking "5 or 6" great young players in trade for Jose, one gm says. Many MLB ready too.

 

Stroman + Travis + Pompey + Osuna + Sanchez

 

Pompey/Sanchez/Osuna/Chavez/Hutch + CASH (20m) ...we can pretend

[Jimcanuck]

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 1m1 minute ago

Marlins said to be seeking "5 or 6" great young players in trade for Jose, one gm says. Many MLB ready too.

 

Stroman + Travis + Pompey + Osuna + Sanchez

 

So Jays don't trade for Tulo and Price = Fernandez?

[jays_fever]

5 or 6 great young players for 1 player. Good luck with that

[Sammy225]

5 or 6 great young mlb ready players for 1 player. Good luck with that

 

ftfy

[xposbrad]

So Jays don't trade for Tulo and Price = Fernandez?

 

Ya, and he's 23 and team control to '19. But in hindsight, there are a bunch of things this team should have done differently so..

[jays_fever]

ftfy

 

What player's would even quailfy for being a great young player, even targeting the bottom end players of that category? Jackie Bradley Jr, Stroman, Lindor?. What team has 6 of those in their system..what team could even afford to trade 3 of those guys for a pitcher. Probably the dodgers, maybe the cubs

[jays_fever]

So Jays don't trade for Tulo and Price = Fernandez?

 

Norris, Hoffman and Castro don't get you Fernandez even if Loria is in the middle of a coke epsiode