Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[tercet]

You guys really need to troll better, all of you people trolling me now did the exact same thing last year for SRF when I said he has major flaws(which now you all seem to see/agree).

 

NP has his flaws, and I'm not the only person who sees it.

 

 

Stop regarding the stats line/results as the full picture.

 

Remember process>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>results

 

Small chance I might be in Florida next week for Raptors/Magic series, maybe I can sneak in half a day to see NP if he is in the Dunedin/Tampa/Clearwater/Lakeland area.

[LGBJ29]

You guys really need to troll better, all of you people trolling me now did the exact same thing last year for SRF when I said he has major flaws(which now you all seem to see/agree).

 

NP has his flaws, and I'm not the only person who sees it.

 

 

Stop regarding the stats line/results as the full picture.

 

Remember process>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>results

 

Small chance I might be in Florida next week for Raptors/Magic series, maybe I can sneak in half a day to see NP if he is in the Dunedin/Tampa/Clearwater/Lakeland area.

 

Using a mostly positive tweet to back up your negative narrative is bold. If that tweet is the best you got to support your argument then it may be you who needs to troll better bro

[spats]

You guys really need to troll better, all of you people trolling me now did the exact same thing last year for SRF when I said he has major flaws(which now you all seem to see/agree).

 

NP has his flaws, and I'm not the only person who sees it.

 

 

Stop regarding the stats line/results as the full picture.

 

Remember process>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>results

 

Small chance I might be in Florida next week for Raptors/Magic series, maybe I can sneak in half a day to see NP if he is in the Dunedin/Tampa/Clearwater/Lakeland area.

 

Play against Lakeland at Jack Russell on the 18th and 19th and in Lakeland on the 20. following week in Daytona and Jupiter.

[tercet]

Using a mostly positive tweet to back up your negative narrative is bold. If that tweet is the best you got to support your argument then it may be you who needs to troll better bro

 

Its not a negative narrative bro, he is a player with flaws, like every baseball player. Better baseball players will exploit that, like they did for SRF, Gurribabip, and the mirage.

 

But not allowed to talk bad about prospects on this forum, stats mean everything, and f* tercet!!!1!!!1!!

[tercet]

Play against Lakeland at Jack Russell on the 18th and 19th and in Lakeland on the 20. following week in Daytona and Jupiter.

 

Ya, the Raptors play in Orlando Fri/Sun, so a 3-4 day trip would probably work.

[BlueRocky]

David Paulino looked lost on the mound. His stuff doesn’t seem that elite and his command, to put it kindly.. needs a lot of work. His stuff either goes straight down the middle or misses by a mile. His curve has decent break but no control.

 

I’m not sure who is worst at this point between him and Hector Perez. Both prospect fetches from the Osuna trade look like tire fires. I don’t know if this Paulino as a starter experiment should continue for too much longer, I’ll be happy if he’s a half decent middle relief.

Edited April 15, 2019 by BlueRocky

[P2F]

Ljay Newsome pitching for the Modesto Nuts at 5 PM EST today is must-watch TV.

 

This lived up to the billing.

[Corporal Valdal]

David Paulino looked lost on the mound. His stuff doesn’t seem that elite and his command, to put it kindly.. needs a lot of work. His stuff either goes straight down the middle or misses by a mile. His curve has decent break but no control.

 

I’m not sure who is worst at this point between him and Hector Perez. Both prospect fetches from the Osuna trade look like tire fires. I don’t know if this Paulino as a starter experiment should continue for too much longer, I’ll be happy if he’s a half decent middle relief.

 

They should of made him a dominant 98mph fastball reliever

[Brownie19]

They should of made him a dominant 98mph fastball reliever

 

definitely should of.

[Krylian]

Should uv indeed

[Ray]

Nate Pearson, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays

Level: Hi-A Age: 22 Org Rank: 4 FV: 50

Line: 5 IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 0 R, 9 K

 

Notes

Pearson was removed from his previous start after just 27 pitches, so it was a relief to see him back and dominant five days later. Pearson’s future as a strike-thrower is hard to anticipate. He was wild last fall but he hadn’t pitched all year due to a fractured ulna, so that wildness could have just been due to rust. He threw 43 of 59 pitches for strikes yesterday, a sign he may actually be able to harness his alien stuff and find a way to start long-term. He may be on an innings limit this year, so unless the Jays expertly manicure his workload with a big league goal in mind (perhaps that two-inning outing last start is an indication of how they’ll handle Pearson throughout the year) it’s unlikely we see him in the big leagues until next year at least. It’s still too early to reposition Pearson in our rankings due to increased confidence that he’ll start, but yesterday’s outing, during which he sat 94-98 and touched 102, could soon be part of a body of evidence indicating we should.

[Angrioter]

Gio Gonzalez to Vlad Jr.: 'I'm tired of facing your family'

 

 

"When he got to first, I said, 'Your dad and you have the same reputation,'" Gonzalez told Kaitlyn McGrath of The Athletic. "You always find a hit. I was like, 'Just get out of here already - I’m tired of facing your family already.'"

[jays4life19]

Jordan Groshans, SS, Lansing Lugnuts (Toronto Blue Jays Low-A)

The 12th overall pick in last year’s draft has gotten off to a hot start in the Midwest League. Groshans is tall and lean with plenty of projectable growth left on the frame, and he’s athletic enough to carry it well. He’s solid in the field, with good instincts and quick hands. The arm is strong and will play anywhere in the infield. The Jays will keep him at short for as long as they can, but his eventual home will be at third where his arm and glove will play above average. Speed will not be part of his game; there’s a lack of acceleration out of the box and he’s got a choppy, upright running style.

I walked away from my recent looks really impressed with the bat. It’s a quiet swing that features above-average bat speed and plus barrel control. He’s got a quick trigger that makes it difficult for pitchers to blow anything past him, and it allows him to wait back and recognize secondaries. There’s plus raw power that he generates from a combination of strength and bat speed. It’s currently hard line-drive contact, but over-the-fence power will materialize in-game with physical maturity. Even with a probable move to the hot corner, the power bat profile is one that should excite Jays fans. – Nathan Graham

[Jimcanuck]

Forrest Whitley broken?

 

2nd straight very ugly line

[z3r0s]

Ugly line today, but when was the first? His 1st start was fine

[Jimcanuck]

Eh, you are right. I remember the bad start, forgot he righted the ship.

[jays4life19]

Watching the Lansing game and wow did not realize what a fat boy Alejandro Kirk is.

[Carlos Danger]

Watching the Lansing game and wow did not realize what a fat boy Alejandro Kirk is.

 

Didn't you know that is the Jays new organizational philosophy.. Fat guys that can hit and can't play D combined and speedy, athletic players with positional versatility who can't hit worth a s***.. Trust the process bra.

[BlueRocky]

Watching the Lansing game and wow did not realize what a fat boy Alejandro Kirk is.

 

Fat?

Put some respek on his name.

That’s Alejandro “Absolute Unit” Captain Kirk.

 

On a side note, Josh Winckowzki is dealing

[P2F]

On a side note, Josh Winckowzki is dealing

 

He's getting squeezed a bunch tonight.

[Boxcar]

Fat?

Put some respek on his name.

That’s Alejandro “Absolute Unit” Captain Kirk.

 

On a side note, Josh Winckowzki is dealing

 

El Capitan

 

He's a big boy with a big heart

 

Possibly literally

[43211234]

Adam Kloffenstein article: https://baseballtoronto.com/2019/04/16/adam-kloffenstein-takes-maturity-advanced-approach-into-first-full-season/

 

Not too much there though.

[Ray]

Lansing trio are off to a really hot start:

 

Alejandro Kirk: .364/.450/.667 2HR 6BB 3K

 

Otto Lopez: .344/.488/.500 1HR 9BB 4K

 

Jordan Groshans: .333/.444/.533 1HR 6BB 8K

 

All of them are 20 years of age or younger. On top of that, Josh Wincowski is looking good as well. Looking like a stacked team.

[Boxcar]

Lansing trio are off to a really hot start:

 

Alejandro Kirk: .364/.450/.667 2HR 6BB 3K

 

Otto Lopez: .344/.488/.500 1HR 9BB 4K

 

Jordan Groshans: .333/.444/.533 1HR 6BB 8K

 

All of them are 20 years of age or younger. On top of that, Josh Wincowski is looking good as well. Looking like a stacked team.

 

And yet they can't seem to get above .500. Josh gave us a mini scouting report on Kirk, said his blocking is good, receiving is solid, flashes plus and that his only issue is with pitch calling but that could just be the two of them getting familiar with one another since Kirk never played in Vancouver.

 

Josh doesn't hold back with us so this is a genuine report.

[BlueRocky]

Lansing trio are off to a really hot start:

 

Alejandro Kirk: .364/.450/.667 2HR 6BB 3K

 

Otto Lopez: .344/.488/.500 1HR 9BB 4K

 

Jordan Groshans: .333/.444/.533 1HR 6BB 8K

 

All of them are 20 years of age or younger. On top of that, Josh Wincowski is looking good as well. Looking like a stacked team.

 

wRC+ 216, 194, 187 for those three studs.

 

Captain Kirk's 7.5% K% / 15% BB% is pretty ridiculous for a guy slugging .667 and ISO .303.

Probably not sustainable (unless your name is Vlad and ends with jr.) but he's setting himself up to shoot up the prospect rankings. I'm hoping he can stay at catcher.

 

Lopez is looking like Samad Taylor with a way better hit tool--much better contact and less strikeouts.

Both listed 20 years old, 5'10 160lbs R/R that plays 2B (Though Lopez plays around the diamond).

Both are aggressive stealing bases.

Their offensive production is night and day though, especially the strikeout and walk numbers:

 

(A- Vancouver)

Samad Taylor: .294/.342/.426 wRC+ 116, 23.1 K%, 6.4 BB%

Otto Lopez: .297/.390/.434 wRC+ 134, 10.2 K%,12.6 BB%

 

(A Lansing)

Samad Taylor: .228/.319/.387 wRC+ 102, 18.7 K%, 10.8 BB%

Otto Lopez: .344/.488/.500 wRC+ 194, 9.8 K%, 22 BB% *41 PA*

[Orgfiller]

wRC+ 216, 194, 187 for those three studs.

 

Captain Kirk's 7.5% K% / 15% BB% is pretty ridiculous for a guy slugging .667 and ISO .303.

Probably not sustainable (unless your name is Vlad and ends with jr.) but he's setting himself up to shoot up the prospect rankings. I'm hoping he can stay at catcher.

 

Lopez is looking like Samad Taylor with a way better hit tool--much better contact and less strikeouts.

Both listed 20 years old, 5'10 160lbs R/R that plays 2B (Though Lopez plays around the diamond).

Both are aggressive stealing bases.

Their offensive production is night and day though, especially the strikeout and walk numbers:

 

(A- Vancouver)

Samad Taylor: .294/.342/.426 wRC+ 116, 23.1 K%, 6.4 BB%

Otto Lopez: .297/.390/.434 wRC+ 134, 10.2 K%,12.6 BB%

 

(A Lansing)

Samad Taylor: .228/.319/.387 wRC+ 102, 18.7 K%, 10.8 BB%

Otto Lopez: .344/.488/.500 wRC+ 194, 9.8 K%, 22 BB% *41 PA*

 

While it's valid to compare them, it should be noted that Samad Taylor did that while being a year younger than Lopez at each level.

[ColdPint]

Vlad Jr not in the lineup for Buffalo again tonight?

[Candy Maldonado]

Vlad Jr not in the lineup for Buffalo again tonight?

 

double header, he played the first game https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/prospects/stats/affiliates

[BlueRocky]

While it's valid to compare them, it should be noted that Samad Taylor did that while being a year younger than Lopez at each level.

 

I have nothing against Taylor, and I understand he’s been young for his level.

I’m just excited that the Jays seem to have found themselves another gem.

 

Looking through MLB Pipeline’s top 30 prospects, there’s legitimate upside from top to bottom and some of the guys we’re excited about are in the back end of that list or not even on it. (e.g. Winckowzki, Logue, Lopez, Mcclelland).

The prospect depth is pretty crazy, the same can’t be said about most MLB farm systems.

[Barkerfan23]

Son of Biggio