Rotation next year

[Laika]

Dickey will be 41 next year. Wouldn't you rather put that 12 million towards a guy like Mike Leake or Gallardo? Kazmir or Iwakuma? I'm not drinking the Dickey kool-aid. Don't want him back next year. I think he's a ticking time-bomb.

 

All of those guys should get multi year deals, and some of them for a lot of money.

 

The fact that Dickey is only a 1 year commitment is a luxury. It would be silly to turn down his option just so you can commit 4 or 5 years to a similar but slightly inferior talent like Leake.

 

I love Kuma but since he's a Jap, I doubt he'll leave the West coast. Kazmir will get big money like Ervin Santana (maybe more). Gallardo is a real time bomb, and his peripherals are garbage this year.

[o2cui2i]

Yeah. Things looked pretty dicey in the first few months, but Dickey will once again come in at better than 2 wins not counting the Dickey effect. $12M on a 1-year commitment is looking more and more like a no-brainer.

 

the top guys in next years market are going to be getting contracts that the jays WONT pay. top tier guys are getting 7 years AAV 25M. unless Rogers suddenly goes nuts which I doubt would happen.

 

On a plus though, attendance has been very good lately and if we make the playoffs this year it will end up being VERY good. They might free up some more cash but it wont be 150M deals

[Abomination]

I have to think Seattle would have traded Iwakuma if they thought he wouldn't resign with them. I'd love to see him here though.

[Jimcanuck]

Picking up Dickey option is a no brainer.

 

Don't expect MB back and he would want similar money that he is making now, and have to consider Martin's backloaded contract.

 

Stroman, Dickey, Hutch, Osuna/Sanchez, FA starter, with the usual scrubs for depth

 

Would be nice to stretch out Osuna....

[Stangstag]

All of those guys should get multi year deals, and some of them for a lot of money.

 

The fact that Dickey is only a 1 year commitment is a luxury. It would be silly to turn down his option just so you can commit 4 or 5 years to a similar but slightly inferior talent like Leake.

 

I love Kuma but since he's a Jap, I doubt he'll leave the West coast. Kazmir will get big money like Ervin Santana (maybe more). Gallardo is a real time bomb, and his peripherals are garbage this year.

 

Uhhhh... Wut

[ElNik2013]

They have to sign a FA SP especially after trading 2 guys (Norris and Boyd) who would've been either in the rotation or depth.

 

Arguably, Hoffman and Castro could've been depth as well if they started the year in NH although this is probably a stretch.

 

 

Anyway...

[Laika]

Uhhhh... Wut

 

Dickey has a 3.99 ERA as a Blue Jay, in almost 3 years. Leake has a career 4.17 FIP and 3.86 ERA in the NL. He's probably a ~4.20 ERA guy in the AL East. Maybe worse.

 

I'd take Dickey over Leake in 2016. But, there are other ways to cut the stats to suit other arguments and I will acknowledge that.

[Trouba95]

Do we have enough on the farm for Quintana? And would the CHI Sox have any desire to trade him in the off season?

[GD]

Wonder if the White Sox would do Pompey + Sanchez + Pentecost for Quintana or something dumn cause they do happen to be the White Sox and all.

[BTS]

Do we have enough on the farm for Quintana? And would the CHI Sox have any desire to trade him in the off season?

 

It's really hard to see why they'd have any interest in moving him. You'd have a hard time arguing that he's not a top-30 starter in the game, and he's only 26, signed through 2020 on a team-friendly deal, and has no history of arm/shoulder trouble. Guy is a horse. Guys like that don't really get moved for prospects.

[GD]

BTS OWNS HIM IN FANTASY LEAGUES

 

fyi

[BTS]

BTS OWNS HIM IN FANTASY LEAGUES

 

fyi

 

Is anything I said wrong?

[GD]

Is anything I said wrong?

 

Your dumn you knob jockey Rays fan Jays hater bike

[BTS]

Your dumn you knob jockey Rays fan Jays hater bike

 

Fight me IRL

[Laika]

It's really hard to see why they'd have any interest in moving him. You'd have a hard time arguing that he's not a top-30 starter in the game, and he's only 26, signed through 2020 on a team-friendly deal, and has no history of arm/shoulder trouble. Guy is a horse. Guys like that don't really get moved for prospects.

 

Anything can happen with Alex Anthopoulos. The man could literally move a mountain and it would be a less impressive feat than moving Wells' contract or acquiring Josh Donaldson.

[GD]

Anything can happen with Alex Anthopoulos. The man could literally move a mountain and it would be a less impressive feat than moving Wells' contract or acquiring Josh Donaldson.

 

Wasn't there a report that Reagins or whoever the Angels' GM was got forced into acquiring Wells by ownership?

[BTS]

Wasn't there a report that Reagins or whoever the Angels' GM was got forced into acquiring Wells by ownership?

 

Yeah. But the ultimate insult was getting him to give up two years of Mike Napoli for the privilege.

[GD]

Yeah. But the ultimate insult was getting him to give up two years of Mike Napoli for the privilege.

 

Then gave him away for Frank Francisco cause we had JPA

[BTS]

Then gave him away for Frank Francisco cause we had JPA

 

That was really dumn

[Boxcar]

That was really dumn

 

Rays wouldn't have made that mistake.

[BTS]

Rays wouldn't have made that mistake.

 

Not likely, no.

[GD]

Nah. The Rays never would've been in that situation in the first place.

 

It would've involved extending a franchise player.

[BTS]

Making fun of the Rays' budget is like heckling at the special olympics.

[Boxcar]

Nah. The Rays never would've been in that situation in the first place.

 

It would've involved extending a franchise player.

 

Longoria?

 

rekt

[GD]

Longoria suxxxxxxxxxxx

[BTS]

Longoria suxxxxxxxxxxx

 

Your dumn. No wonder you suck at the fantasy beisbol

[AdamGreenwood]

It's lucky that the Angels and Dodgers routinely make such stupid baseball decisions. Otherwise, their budgets would destroy everyone.

I am a little concerned with Zaidi running things with the Dodgers now though. They're snapping up every Cuban available. They're going to have a dynasty.

[GD]

Your dumn. No wonder you suck at the fantasy beisbol

 

i'm first in my BBDL division but it's pretty mediocre with guys like JFaS and King

[Stangstag]

Dickey has a 3.99 ERA as a Blue Jay, in almost 3 years. Leake has a career 4.17 FIP and 3.86 ERA in the NL. He's probably a ~4.20 ERA guy in the AL East. Maybe worse.

 

I'd take Dickey over Leake in 2016. But, there are other ways to cut the stats to suit other arguments and I will acknowledge that.

 

Fair enough. Leake will also cost more than Dickey. The main thing is that I personally don't trust Dickey to keep pitching like he is now. But its ultimately up to AA and what he thinks.

[BTS]

i'm first in my BBDL division but it's pretty mediocre with guys like JFaS and King

 

The North effect.