GDT (2/4): Royals @ Blue Jays [Cueto vs Hutchison] July 31 - 7:07 PM

[5minutesforframing]

What are you talking about? He dropped his bat, threw his arms up and celebrated with the team. Like a lot.

 

You clearly were not watching closely darling

[LTR]

Props to Hutchison for pulling it together after a rough 1st inning.

 

The Hutchison hate has to stop. The guy has been completely unlucky.

 

Abnormally high BABIP. Abnormally low LOB%. Those two things pretty much explain his high ERA. There's nothing more to it. He's pretty much the same guy he's always been, his command is the same, his control is the same, his BB rate is the same, his K rate is about the same, velocity about the same, his luck is not the same.

 

I can't believe people actually want to demote him... give your head a shake.

[pickoff22]

Props to Hutchison for pulling it together after a rough 1st inning.

 

The Hutchison hate has to stop. The guy has been completely unlucky.

 

Abnormally high BABIP. Abnormally low LOB%. Those two things pretty much explain his high ERA. There's nothing more to it. He's pretty much the same guy he's always been, his command is the same, his control is the same, his BB rate is the same, his K rate is about the same, velocity about the same, his luck is not the same.

 

I can't believe people actually want to demote him... give your head a shake.

 

shouldn't be demoted, but he's not a spitting image of last year's Drew.

 

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/did-drew-hutchison-really-change-his-slider/

[Maahfaace]

Props to Hutchison for pulling it together after a rough 1st inning.

 

The Hutchison hate has to stop. The guy has been completely unlucky.

 

Abnormally high BABIP. Abnormally low LOB%. Those two things pretty much explain his high ERA. There's nothing more to it. He's pretty much the same guy he's always been, his command is the same, his control is the same, his BB rate is the same, his K rate is about the same, velocity about the same, his luck is not the same.

 

I can't believe people actually want to demote him... give your head a shake.

 

This is a great example of why only focusing on advanced stats to evaluate a player can lead to misguided assessments of players performances.

[Daniel Labude]

Another solid job by the Jays board. Though in fairness to John it was obvious he was attempting to engineer the reverse jinx.

 

I stand behind what I said...was only 3 runs off.

[LTR]

shouldn't be demoted, but he's not a spitting image of last year's Drew.

 

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/did-drew-hutchison-really-change-his-slider/

 

That's very interesting, thanks for sharing.

 

This is a great example of why only focusing on advanced stats to evaluate a player can lead to misguided assessments of players performances.

 

I don't think they're advanced stats, it's fairly logical that he's been mostly unlucky.

[Daniel Labude]

Props to Hutchison for pulling it together after a rough 1st inning.

 

The Hutchison hate has to stop. The guy has been completely unlucky.

 

Abnormally high BABIP. Abnormally low LOB%. Those two things pretty much explain his high ERA. There's nothing more to it. He's pretty much the same guy he's always been, his command is the same, his control is the same, his BB rate is the same, his K rate is about the same, velocity about the same, his luck is not the same.

 

I can't believe people actually want to demote him... give your head a shake.

 

There is a fine line between unlucky and just plain terrible....he is right on the edge, comments one way or the other is reasonable at the moment.

[bronson44]

You clearly were not watching closely darling

 

You're right. He didn't raise his arms, that was the last Donaldson walk-off where again people weren't happy with his enthusiasm level. Why the f*** do people give a s*** about this again?

[Boxcar]

This is a great example of why only focusing on advanced stats to evaluate a player can lead to misguided assessments of players performances.

 

The irony in this post is outstanding.

[5minutesforframing]

You're right. He didn't raise his arms, that was the last Donaldson walk-off where again people weren't happy with his enthusiasm level. Why the f*** do people give a s*** about this again?

 

Calm down darling, we won

Edited August 1, 2015 by 5minutesforframing

[Maahfaace]

That's very interesting, thanks for sharing.

 

 

 

I don't think they're advanced stats, it's fairly logical that he's been mostly unlucky.

 

His fastball is awful right now. He routinely leaves it up in the zone and it has very little life to it. Pitching from the stretch seems like it affects his ability command it down in the zone consistently. His slider also looks nothing like what he showed the 2nd half of last season. It's lost bite, and I'm sure theirs a Stat/metric to measure its disparity from last year. Hutch is struggling big time, and assigning luck as its reason for said struggles is what I take issue with.

 

I'm kind of excited to see how exit velocities off the bat translate to player evaluation, I think adding these new metrics might help to better explain how guys like Buehrle can be successful. One thing is for sure, it's definitely not mostly luck based as you seem to think.

[HERPDERP]

Still can't believe we have Tulowitzki

[o2cui2i]

Still can't believe we have Tulowitzki

 

still can't believe we have Martin, Donaldson, Price...

[LTR]

His fastball is awful right now. He routinely leaves it up in the zone and it has very little life to it. Pitching from the stretch seems like it affects his ability command it down in the zone consistently. His slider also looks nothing like what he showed the 2nd half of last season. It's lost bite, and I'm sure theirs a Stat/metric to measure its disparity from last year. Hutch is struggling big time, and assigning luck as its reason for said struggles is what I take issue with.

 

I'm kind of excited to see how exit velocities off the bat translate to player evaluation, I think adding these new metrics might help to better explain how guys like Buehrle can be successful. One thing is for sure, it's definitely not mostly luck based as you seem to think.

 

There's absolutely no way you can refute it being mostly bad luck if you look at the details, sorry but it's true.

[o2cui2i]

There's absolutely no way you can refute it being mostly bad luck if you look at the details, sorry but it's true.

 

Hutch induces a s*** load of bad contact it's just not at anyone

[LTR]

Hutch induces a s*** load of bad contact it's just not at anyone

 

His soft contact is even up this year, significantly. Poor bastard.

[Maahfaace]

There's absolutely no way you can refute it being mostly bad luck if you look at the details, sorry but it's true.

 

Assigning luck so as to try label what you can't explain is an unscientific approach. Sorry but it's true.

[LTR]

Assigning luck so as to try label what you can't explain is an unscientific approach. Sorry but it's true.

 

FIP, xFIP, BABIP, LOB%... needs literally no explanation. The only number you can look at is ERA, apparently. You're hopeless, Lol.

[Atothe]

Hutch is effective when he pitches up in the zone

[Maahfaace]

FIP, xFIP, BABIP, LOB%... needs literally no explanation. You're hopeless, Lol.

 

The Stat(s) arent the issue, it's your propensity to use luck as such a significant imaginary metric

[Spanky99]

Props to Hutchison for pulling it together after a rough 1st inning.

 

The Hutchison hate has to stop. The guy has been completely unlucky.

 

Abnormally high BABIP. Abnormally low LOB%. Those two things pretty much explain his high ERA. There's nothing more to it. He's pretty much the same guy he's always been, his command is the same, his control is the same, his BB rate is the same, his K rate is about the same, velocity about the same, his luck is not the same.

 

I can't believe people actually want to demote him... give your head a shake.

 

Well said.

[SAAviour]

Still can't believe we have Tulowitzki

 

still can't believe we have Martin, Donaldson, Price...

 

And still can't believe people think AA is a bad GM......

 

I hope all the prospects traded away flourish, couldn't give a f***....we're stacked!

[Spanky99]

Assigning luck so as to try label what you can't explain is an unscientific approach. Sorry but it's true.

 

C'mon man, just stop, you're drinking too much.

[Trouba95]

Thank you to whomever banned bill. Please continue to stay on top of the s*** disturbers (esp. Dogg accounts). Let's do our best to keep this forum troll-free. I'll admit sometimes I'm overly negative but I truly want this team to make it to the promise land unlike the vermins.

[Spanky99]

The Stat(s) arent the issue, it's your propensity to use luck as such a significant imaginary metric

 

Luck, or stuff out of a pitchers control is what it is, there is a metric for this, it's far from imaginary???

[Spanky99]

Thank you to whomever banned bill. Please continue to stay on top of the s*** disturbers (esp. Dogg accounts). Let's do our best to keep this forum troll-free. I'll admit sometimes I'm overly negative but I truly want this team to make it to the promise land unlike the vermins.

 

Jesus Christ...talk about Pot meet Kettle?!?!

[Trouba95]

Jesus Christ...talk about Pot meet Kettle?!?!

 

I'm negative but I want to see the team in the dance. Do you think bill does?

[Spanky99]

out getting s*** faced?

 

Weak, man...very weak.

[Spanky99]

I'm negative but I want to see the team in the dance. Do you think bill does?

 

I think you're both f***ing annoying, period.

[SAAviour]

No pressure Minnesota, you're leading the wild card, you got a great team, see you in Tulonto on Monday, hope the weather is nice for you and it's not pissin down rain.

 

Minnesota 53 49 .520 - - 3-7 L1

Baltimore 52 50 .510 1.0 60 6-4 W1

Toronto 53 51 .510 1.0 59 6-4 W3