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he was trying to get a free run relax...Valencia and Pillar were up next not exactly great match ups against Herrera.

 

That's ridiculous. There was no free run there under any circumstance (unless he thought Perez was about to have a heart attack from the heat)

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So seriously what is going to happen with Reyes here???? Are the Jays seriously going to let him do this game after game.

 

Absolutely they will they still think he's elite and they are paying him 22 mil. How can you sit a guy making 22 million?

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I don't know... Pillar for 3rd out was bad, cola missed play was bad, reyes through the wickets was bad. A whole lot of bad to go around.

 

Yes but all these plays you just described are plays with a lower success rates, unbelievably. Martin just had to jog down to third and stay on the bag, and given the fact there was one out and he was the tying run, YOU JUST STAY PUT !!

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This team does not play smart, winning baseball brutal. How many games have they beat themselves? Problem is pitcher is not enough to put this teak over the top imo

 

 

I agree getting two pitchers won't be enough.

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he was trying to get a free run relax...Valencia and Pillar were up next not exactly great match ups against Herrera.

 

Are you insane?

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How can it be "all Perez" when Martin had no business taking an aggressive turn there? Perez made a nice play, but it was as dumb a base running play as you will see from a player. He had no chance to score there.

 

On the other hand, so many players make dumb plays on this team that what's another one.

 

ok 90% Perez, 10% Martin who opened himself up but if Martin repeated that move 10x he's out maybe 2 or 3 (still foolish regardless). It was done perfect by Perez and still had to review it to see if he was out, infact if he was called safe by the ump I doubt they overturn it.

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Also notice this team can only hit mistakes. As soon as a team keeps pitching them away mist hitters sand Travis refuse to go the other way. Also don't adjust for the breaking ball. Not a smart team.
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he was trying to get a free run relax...Valencia and Pillar were up next not exactly great match ups against Herrera.

 

You think Martin trying to nab 3rd and home on a wild pitch is more likely than either of those guys getting a hit, or even a sac fly?

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That's ridiculous. There was no free run there under any circumstance (unless he thought Perez was about to have a heart attack from the heat)

 

the pitcher wasn't paying attention at all it would have been a race with he and Perez to the plate.

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You can't make that f***ing mistake

 

This is a team where our franchise player blows out his shoulder trying to show up a team hindering the Jays for months...anything is possible

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I will stick by what I said. Players know that the team hasn't been to the playoffs in 22 years. If nothing else they know that the GM won't make the right moves for the right players and the Manager won't make the right moves such as putting Goins in for Reyes late in games.

 

Certainly Blue Jays fans don't have high expectations. The Blue Jays have become like the Maple Leafs.

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the pitcher wasn't paying attention at all it would have been a race with he and Perez to the plate.

 

It's as though you didn't even watch the play. Hit rewind and watch. There was zero chance - absolutely terrible decision when there's two outs, completely moronic with one out.

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I will stick by what I said. Players know that the team hasn't been to the playoffs in 22 years. If nothing else they know that the GM won't make the right moves for the right players and the Manager won't make the right moves such as putting Goins in for Reyes late in games.

 

Certainly Blue Jays fans don't have high expectations. The Blue Jays have become like the Maple Leafs.

 

Bitterness makes you crazy.

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You think Martin trying to nab 3rd and home on a wild pitch is more likely than either of those guys getting a hit, or even a sac fly?

 

i dunno i am just going drop it though it's all speculation. I just know if i was running i would have been thinking the same way.

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Keep the prospects unless you get a really good deal for a youngish player with several years of control a la Donaldson.
Posted
So with all the mental errors this team has made so far this year, does anyone think that the lack of a fundamental culture from the coaching staff isn't relevant?
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I'm usually one of the first guys to defend our guys since they take a lot of unwarranted criticism, but this game has been absolutely terrible to watch. The one time KC's defense shits the bed we decide to play even worse defense then usual and make two ridiculous decisions on the basepaths. Sad sad way to enter the break.

 

I guess we can still win though. Let's just do that.

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So with all the mental errors this team has made so far this year, does anyone think that the lack of a fundamental culture from the coaching staff isn't relevant?

 

Most of the coaches are American, I think. What do you mean?

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It's as though you didn't even watch the play. Hit rewind and watch. There was zero chance - absolutely terrible decision when there's two outs, completely moronic with one out.

 

What decision? he was just rounding hard. That's how you run the bases, Perez was looking like he was sleeping at the wheel. It was an awesome bait and awesome throw.

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So all the runs are unearned.....so the dp error was what cause it

 

1 was earned, then E5 and then E6. 7 of 8 unearned

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