General Jays Discussion 2015

[Nabru]

Barring any subtractions from the major league club today, who's being sent down to make room for Price? Tepera?

[HERPDERP]

Barring any subtractions from the major league club today, who's being sent down to make room for Price? Tepera?

 

Multiple scenarios:

1.) Tepera gets sent down cause he's the rookie

2.) Loup gets sent down cause he's s***

3.) Travis hits the DL and we only rely on Martin/Valencia as back-up infielders

[flafson]

I think Kohlrabi been pretty decent at 1B, probably better than Edwin but not better than Smoak.

[GD]

Multiple scenarios:

1.) Tepera gets sent down cause he's the rookie

2.) Loup gets sent down cause he's s***

3.) Travis hits the DL and we only rely on Martin/Valencia as back-up infielders

 

except Loup isn't s***

[Brownie19]

yes, it's too bad we don't have a guy on the bench who plays stunning D at first and switch hits.

 

Do we really think Smoak's defense is stunning? Fangraphs has him as a negative defender every year. I know their defensive thing isn't the best, but I'm not sure 'stunning' an accurate verb...perhaps only when referenced in comparison to E5 and Colabello.

 

Average comes to mind for me...but you guys are smarter than me. Learn me.

[Boxcar]

Do we really think Smoak's defense is stunning? Fangraphs has him as a negative defender every year. I know their defensive thing isn't the best, but I'm not sure 'stunning' an accurate verb...perhaps only when referenced in comparison to E5 and Colabello.

 

Average comes to mind for me...but you guys are smarter than me. Learn me.

 

1B defense is given a harsher defensive weight. Idk the exact numbers, but for example, a 0 def SS is a below average defender at short and a -5 def at 1B is good. It's not a reflection on him, but the position he plays.

 

E: going by last few years, Smoak is just around average

[GD]

Do we really think Smoak's defense is stunning? Fangraphs has him as a negative defender every year. I know their defensive thing isn't the best, but I'm not sure 'stunning' an accurate verb...perhaps only when referenced in comparison to E5 and Colabello.

 

Average comes to mind for me...but you guys are smarter than me. Learn me.

 

"Defense" involves positional adjustment to provide total defensive value. "UZR" is a measure of the player's actual fielding, no positions involved.

 

So if you want to see how good Donaldson is at defense, you'd look at his UZR, and it's +10 runs or whatever. So that means his glove has been worth 10 runs or like 1 win. But if you want to see his total defensive value, you'd look at defense, which includes the fact that he's a +10 defender at third base; obviously, if he was a +10 defender at first base, that wouldn't be as impressive and would impact his total defensive value, despite posting the same UZR. Hope I explained well

[pickoff22]

Do we really think Smoak's defense is stunning? Fangraphs has him as a negative defender every year. I know their defensive thing isn't the best, but I'm not sure 'stunning' an accurate verb...perhaps only when referenced in comparison to E5 and Colabello.

 

Average comes to mind for me...but you guys are smarter than me. Learn me.

 

Stunning is most definitely not accurate. It's better than other options at 1B we have, but he's not some defensive wizard. Some on this board have over-inflated Smoak's talent level (most likely driven by a hate towards Gibby and his choice to play others ahead of Smoak). I'm all for giving Smoak more playing time don't get me wrong, but he's not as good of a player as some people want to believe he is.

[z3r0s]

Jays still in on Carrasco apparently. We surely don't have the prospects as far as I see, but its fun to think about. Do it AA!

[Brownie19]

You guys so smart - thanks for keeping me around here. All interesting stuff.

 

It's also kind of funny to reference Smoak as a switch hitter when we seemingly don't let him bat right handed ever. I appreciate what Colabello's done for the team, but I would have loved to see what Smoak could do given full time at bats vs. both LHP and RHP. Maybe there's no "growth" left and maybe he's destine never to be a full time player anyway, but getting 25 at bats vs. LHP in a season is going to kill any possibility there was.

[KingKat]

Jays still in on Carrasco apparently. We surely don't have the prospects as far as I see, but its fun to think about. Do it AA!

 

Hard to imagine it not costing Stroman at this point. Can't really see it making sense for both teams otherwise.

[Angrioter]

"Dioner Navarro knows me better than I know myself"…Marco Estrada

[RealAccountant]

Jays still in on Carrasco apparently. We surely don't have the prospects as far as I see, but its fun to think about. Do it AA!

 

Probably Osuna would be centerpiece

[HERPDERP]

Stephen Drew may be DFA'd today. Do you guys think the Jays should try him as the back-up? He has a ridiculously low BABIP. Guess it depends on how you feel on Goins.

[AdamLindsMom]

Stephen Drew may be DFA'd today. Do you guys think the Jays should try him as the back-up? He has a ridiculously low BABIP. Guess it depends on how you feel on Goins.

 

His BABIP was the same last season too though. There has to be more to it than just bad luck.

[Ehjays]

Jays still in on Carrasco apparently. We surely don't have the prospects as far as I see, but its fun to think about. Do it AA!

 

Ok

Hutch, one of Pompey/Alford, Navarro we pay remainder, Pentacost and Tirado

 

We take Swisher and Carrasco

 

s*** I just woke up....Dreams over.

 

We are not getting Carrasco

[Brownie19]

He has a ridiculously low BABIP.

 

Which he's had for over the past 600 PA's....when is it no longer bad luck?

[Atothe]

Stephen Drew may be DFA'd today. Do you guys think the Jays should try him as the back-up? He has a ridiculously low BABIP. Guess it depends on how you feel on Goins.

 

He is Goins, get it?

[o2cui2i]

I was impressed with Gibbons moves yesterday. Cola and Danny V were done as soon as a RHP was in the game. used the pen well as also.

 

Hawkins is a great addition to our pen. I like the idea of using him as a 7th inning guy.

[HERPDERP]

He is Goins, get it?

 

Goins will never hit as many HR as Drew has hit this season lol

[Atothe]

Goins will never hit as many HR as Drew has hit this season lol

 

and yet he essentially useless

[HERPDERP]

I'm just saying...an unsustainably low BABIP for a guy who previously was a solid player, along with average defense..is he better than Goins?

 

Definitely not as handsome, though.

[Nightmaul]

I was impressed with Gibbons moves yesterday. Cola and Danny V were done as soon as a RHP was in the game. used the pen well as also.

 

Hawkins is a great addition to our pen. I like the idea of using him as a 7th inning guy.

 

Agree on all accounts. Solid game.

 

I also want to say Bautista and Edwin have been a disappointments this season. I really hope they pick it up, we need them to.

 

High praise to AA for acquiring Martin, Donaldson, and now Tulo... w/o them we'd be basemen dwellers.

[Angrioter]

Jon Heyman

blue jays could be another possibility for ben revere. orioles also in mix.

 

Holy s*** nooooo

[HERPDERP]

updated gif

 

http://i.imgur.com/IvPDxEN.jpg

[HERPDERP]

Jon Heyman

blue jays could be another possibility for ben revere. orioles also in mix.

 

Holy s*** nooooo

 

Why no love? #'s look good.

[Angrioter]

Why no love? #'s look good.

 

Below average hitter + no great defender anymore.

[HERPDERP]

Below average hitter + no great defender anymore.

 

still better than lolobello

[admin]

Below average hitter + no great defender anymore.

 

Hitting .320/.355 vs Righties. Platoon with Valencia. Good for late game pinch runner too.

[pickoff22]

updated gif

 

http://i.imgur.com/IvPDxEN.jpg

 

That made me laugh. A lot.