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They're playing Brayan Pena right now and Mesoraco is done for the season. Navaroo would be a decent one year stop gap to replace him. They could also flip him at the deadline if they decide they are out of it.

 

Wouldn't they have to decide they are out of it BEFORE moving Cueto and Chapman?

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I honestly cannot see that package having the same value. Navarro is FA and would be of no value.

 

AA may have to look at doing what the Cards did a few years back when they turned Rasmus into Jackson Frasor and Scrabble and won a world series

 

really depends on your view of Travis. I went in to the year thinking he'd be a long-term 1 -1.5 WAR guy but looks like he could be more than that. The Reds have a very good 2B and I doubt they have interest in bringing in another one.

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Wouldn't they have to decide they are out of it BEFORE moving Cueto and Chapman?

 

From all accounts they've decided they need to recoup value from Cueto before he leaves in FA but hope to maximize his value to them by keeping him until the deadline. Chapman is a bit of a pipedream.

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He's been developing the system for 6 yrs but they'd be a lot further ahead without that Marlins and Dickey deals. He has another wave coming up. It makes sense to move from a position of strength and young arms is the Jays biggest strength right now.

 

What "position of strength"?? Hutch is pretty much the only young controllable arm who has any track record of major league success.

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1. Jose Reyes (S) SS

2. Josh Donaldson ® 3B

3. Jose Bautista ® RF

4. Edwin Encarnacion ® 1B

5. Dioner Navarro (S) DH

6. Russell Martin ® C

7. Ezequiel Carrera (L) LF

8. Kevin Pillar ® CF

9. Ryan Goins (L) 2B

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o2cui2i

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1. Kevin Kiermaier (L) CF

2. Joey Butler ® DH

3. Evan Longoria ® 3B

4. Logan Forsythe ® 2B

5. Steven Souza Jr. ® RF

6. Asdrubal Cabrera (S) SS

7. Brandon Guyer ® LF

8. Jake Elmore ® 1B

9. Rene Rivera ® C

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BigBounceyBlueBalls

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Like wise Smokey you drunk n fool ,yes take your blinders off Hutch may be good someday but not today!

 

Hutch 11 out of 14 starts not making 6 innings is hurting the team! Plain and simple, how many games has he won due to his pitching, one ?

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1. Jose Reyes (S) SS

2. Josh Donaldson ® 3B

3. Jose Bautista ® RF

4. Edwin Encarnacion ® 1B

5. Dioner Navarro (S) DH

6. Russell Martin ® C

7. Ezequiel Carrera (L) LF

8. Kevin Pillar ® CF

9. Ryan Goins (L) 2B

 

I think Navarro is legit heating up but sucks to not be able to put Colabello or Smoak in the line-up too (I prefer Carrera over Colabello if he has to play LF).

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What "position of strength"?? Hutch is pretty much the only young controllable arm who has any track record of major league success.

 

That's a pretty narrow definition of track record of success. Hutch has one good full season and the Jays have a bunch of guys close to the majors who project to be successful mid-rotation guys in the MLB. I'm not saying they should move Hutch but if the right deal comes along it should be considered.

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That's a pretty narrow definition of track record of success. Hutch has one good full season and the Jays have a bunch of guys close to the majors who project to be successful mid-rotation guys in the MLB. I'm not saying they should move Hutch but if the right deal comes along it should be considered.

 

One fine season and one pretty good season at 21 and 23 years old! That is extremely encouraging. Would not trade easily.

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One fine season and one pretty good season at 21 and 23 years old! That is extremely encouraging. Would not trade easily.

 

I wouldn't trade him easily either but it shouldn't be off the table.

Smokey College Ball

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dat calf

 

http://i.imgur.com/5DBIF1M.jpg

 

Million dollar contracts and still begging for free s***... Smh

BigBounceyBlueBalls FCL Blue Jays

BigBounceyBlueBalls

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Do I manager even look at stats or history against pitchers this team faces?

 

I know most are small but, wow!

 

Goins pillar Batz and EE suck against this one!

 

Both Smoak who could have given Edwin a day off and kawa who could have spelled Goins Sit! Hmmmm

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1. Jose Reyes (S) SS

2. Josh Donaldson ® 3B

3. Jose Bautista ® RF

4. Edwin Encarnacion ® 1B

5. Dioner Navarro (S) DH

6. Russell Martin ® C

7. Ezequiel Carrera (L) LF

8. Kevin Pillar ® CF

9. Ryan Goins (L) 2B

 

4. Edwin Encarnacion ® 1B

5. Dioner Navarro (S) DH

6. Russell Martin ® C

 

5. Dioner Navarro (S) DH

 

... welp, time to go to the Fire Gibby thread.

baubau FCL Blue Jays

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No kidding, should have kept him in cleanup after yesterday's amazing performance!

 

Yes, because one amazing game should set the standard for future performance.

Heck, maybe JP wasn't crazy when he said he was a top 10 catcher. We should have seen that after his first game!

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Two hundred bucks is a lot for these guys! Lol

 

That's probably like... 10 minutes worth of work for Reyes... If even that!

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pickoff22

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Yes, because one amazing game should set the standard for future performance.

Heck, maybe JP wasn't crazy when he said he was a top 10 catcher. We should have seen that after his first game!

 

Sarcasm is a thing.

baubau FCL Blue Jays

baubau

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Sarcasm is a thing.

 

Ah. With this board I never know. Sorry, been meaning to get me one of these to help me with that.

 

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2411393/sarcasm-detector-o.gif

Smokey College Ball

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Yes, because one amazing game should set the standard for future performance.

Heck, maybe JP wasn't crazy when he said he was a top 10 catcher. We should have seen that after his first game!

 

Well, it did fool AA.......... for more than three years!

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