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I would like to trade every player we have who is 28 years old or older who is currently not on the 40 man roster. I would like several aces in return.
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Imo we don't add to the starting pitching unless it's a cheaper acquisition cost salary dump by someone. We should be able to get a fairly decent reliever or two without subtracting one of our top arms though.

 

We have our rotation set up for the future with Stroman, Hoffman, Norris, Sanchez, Hutch, and a few other guys who could go to either starting or relieving. I don't want to see us mortgage that for a shot at the post season, then spend another 10 years rebuilding.

 

We know from experience it's nearly impossible to get top starting pitchers to come to Toronto, even if we're willing to overpay them. Build the pitching from within, and buy the bats (especially after they remove the turf).

 

I hope your wrong because if we dont get a top flight starter this team has no shot at any serious contention imo.

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What about one of the Mets starters? What would it take to get a guy like Niese?

 

IMO something like Matt Boyd and a B prospect like DSJr

 

For a real frontend pitcher I'd be offering up Hutch + Castro + DSJr + Navarro and hope it was enough

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I hope your wrong because if we dont get a top flight starter this team has no shot at any serious contention imo.

 

 

And the season was over 2 weeks ago. We'll see what happens.

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They are leading their division

 

 

I know, but I thought I read somewhere that they were trying to deal Gee and Niese.

 

On the other hand, I don't want AA dealing with Alderson again...

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IMO something like Matt Boyd and a B prospect like DSJr

 

 

That's the thing, I'd rather first go after salary dump type of guys and give up less. You need cheap, controllable depth like Boyd and DSJ could provide.

 

For a real frontend pitcher I'd be offering up Hutch + Castro + DSJr + Navarro and hope it was enough

 

 

Yeah, that's where I don't want to go. Given what AA gave up for Dickey, I think he'll give up more than that, likely Norris.

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Except it wasn't? THe hitting is not going to keep this pace.

 

 

 

Of course the hitting won't keep up this pace, just like the pitching wasn't as s***** as it was earlier in the season.

 

 

We'll see what they do, if anything.

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That's the thing, I'd rather first go after salary dump type of guys and give up less. You need cheap, controllable depth like Boyd and DSJ could provide.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, that's where I don't want to go. Given what AA gave up for Dickey, I think he'll give up more than that, likely Norris.

 

 

Would love to trade Norris for an ace

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For Pentecost, SRF and Castro. That is fair to me if there is some salary retention on their side.

 

I think without salary retention, that's a fair deal.

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Would love to trade Norris for an ace

 

 

 

It's gonna take more than Norris and will likely be for a rent-an-Ace.

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Just thought i would throw it out there and see who you guy's would be fine with to lose for pitching.I will start off with navarro, goins ,dickey,saunders

 

What team selling a starter would want any of those players, maybe Goins, but he could only net a filler reliever. I would move Pentecost for the right pitcher, Norris++ if the can get Cueto and Chapman. Wouldn't trade Hoffman, really the only prospect I wouldn't trade.

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That's the thing, I'd rather first go after salary dump type of guys and give up less. You need cheap, controllable depth like Boyd and DSJ could provide.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, that's where I don't want to go. Given what AA gave up for Dickey, I think he'll give up more than that, likely Norris.

 

If the Jays were getting a true ace like Felix, Hamels, etc then I'd take the 2nd package. I don't want to see a rental come in unless it's a mid-rotation starter (like Niese) that will come fairly cheap.

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What team selling a starter would want any of those players, maybe Goins, but he could only net a filler reliever. I would move Pentecost for the right pitcher, Norris++ if the can get Cueto and Chapman. Wouldn't trade Hoffman, really the only prospect I wouldn't trade.

 

If Norris + Castro + Pentecost + can get Chapman and Cueto I'd be all over it.

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If Norris + Castro + Pentecost + can get Chapman and Cueto I'd be all over it.

 

When is Chapman FA? I'd move him to the rotation lol

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Pillar, Goins, DSJ, Smoral, SRF, DJ Davis, Boyd, and EE (!) are guys I would have no plm moving for pitching

 

lol

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Its tough to say....We will have to see how the Jays look in late July, if they have a strong lead then I would risk some prospects for a #2 starter and maybe a sport starter/long reliever.

 

I just don't want t fall between two stools here.

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Its tough to say....We will have to see how the Jays look in late July, if they have a strong lead then I would risk some prospects for a #2 starter and maybe a sport starter/long reliever.

 

I just don't want t fall between two stools here.

 

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goins, dickey ,navarro, pompey,sunders,norris,castro,hoffman for a number 2

 

I honestly don't think I would trade Hoffman straight up for a #2 right now. I'd be pretty hesitant to trade Norris, Castro or Pompey as well... Those are guys who can have short AND long term impact on this team.

 

Also, lol at sunders.

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