TripleB Verified Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 The Blue Jays have asked the Athletics about the possibility of trading for reliever Tyler Clippard, ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick tweets. The Blue Jays are seeking upgrades for both their rotation and their bullpen, Crasnick reports. Joel Sherman of the New York Post wrote yesterday that Clippard might become a target for the Blue Jays, who were also interested in Clippard last offseason. The Jays have gotten good results this year from Roberto Osuna, Liam Hendriks, Steve Delabar and current closer Brett Cecil, but their bullpen has been an area of concern throughout the season, and they’ve recently also had trade discussions with the Phillies regarding Jonathan Papelbon. The 30-year-old Clippard would be a somewhat lower-wattage addition, but he’s in the midst of an effective season, with a 3.20 ERA and 7.8 K/9. His walk rate is elevated at 4.6 BB/9, however, and he’s allowed fly balls at an alarming 64.9% rate that’s somewhat atypical, even though he’s never been a ground-ball pitcher. He’s saved nine games in his first extended stint as a closer since 2012, when he saved 32 games for the Nationals. He’s making $8.3MM in his last year before free agency. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/06/blue-jays-have-inquired-about-tyler-clippard.html
GreekFatAss Verified Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 It would certainly be a more cost effective than trading for Papelbon.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 I'm sure Beane would be looking for more from Blue Jays than any other team to make up for the Donaldson trade.
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 You guys really want clippard and his 4.97 SIERA in a pitcher friendly park?
GreekFatAss Verified Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 I'm sure Beane would be looking for more from Blue Jays than any other team to make up for the Donaldson trade. Because thats how execs operate...
GreekFatAss Verified Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 You guys really want clippard and his 4.97 SIERA in a pitcher friendly park? 4.97 SIERRA in the majors > AAAA trash
Ziggyy108 Verified Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 We should just go ahead and get Josh Reddick as well ..........
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Because thats how execs operate... Great sense of humour.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Clippard's been awful this year. Lots of flyballs and lower K rate. If you can get him for nothing, then fine, but don't give up an asset.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 We should just go ahead and get Josh Reddick as well .......... Reddick would fit in so goddamn well with this team. He's been one of my favorite players for years, and I was really hoping that there would be a chance to acquire him over the offseason.
Ziggyy108 Verified Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Reddick would fit in so goddamn well with this team. He's been one of my favorite players for years, and I was really hoping that there would be a chance to acquire him over the offseason. He would be f***ing perfect. The A's have a bunch of really interesting pieces they could trade soon.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 He would be f***ing perfect. The A's have a bunch of really interesting pieces they could trade soon. They always do. When they started the fire sale last offseason, I was hoping the Jays would approach them for another trade, when I wanted them to target Doolittle, Moss and Reddick. It just comes down to whether or not the Jays have the guys that the A's want, and whether or not they'd be willing to give them up if they do. I don't see them chasing a trade for a guy like Reddick though, not before they do everything they can to find some arms.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Reddick would fit in so goddamn well with this team. He's been one of my favorite players for years, and I was really hoping that there would be a chance to acquire him over the offseason. how much control does he have left? If its just this season I wonder if Saunders + Castro would get it done. Reddick would make this lineup amazing since he mashes RHP and you could slide him in the middle of the order which makes it harder for managers to gameplan the later innings.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 how much control does he have left? If its just this season I wonder if Saunders + Castro would get it done. Reddick would make this lineup amazing since he mashes RHP and you could slide him in the middle of the order which makes it harder for managers to gameplan the later innings. Reddick still has two years of control (he's a free agent at the end of the 2016 season), and he won't come cheap. I do think that if the Jays and the A's were to match up as trade partners and they really wanted to get it done, the Jays could plug most of their holes in a trade with the Athletics in a blockbuster for Kazmir, Clippard and one of Zobrist/Reddick. Outside of Reddick, all of the other three guys are free agents at the end of the year, and Clippard has been bad and Zobrist has been s***. Maybe that would create an affordable trade, I don't know. I do think Kazmir would probably cost less than someone like Cueto, so that should be an avenue that they explore, if not a bigger trade.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Why do the Jays always match up as trade partners? lol I don't really want Clippard, but Kazmir+Zobrist/Reddick are both excellent fits.
Caper Verified Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Here's a question. Would anyone trade Devon Travis for Brett Lawrie straight up? I wouldn't but I want to be sure I'm right. It would be funny though to basically insert Gose into the Donaldson trade to make it look that much worst.
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Here's a question. Would anyone trade Devon Travis for Brett Lawrie straight up? I wouldn't but I want to be sure I'm right. It would be funny though to basically insert Gose into the Donaldson trade to make it look that much worst. I'd rather have Travis.
Ziggyy108 Verified Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Jesse Chavez is another interesting arm on the A's that they could move soon ...
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Here's a question. Would anyone trade Devon Travis for Brett Lawrie straight up? I wouldn't but I want to be sure I'm right. It would be funny though to basically insert Gose into the Donaldson trade to make it look that much worst. No. Travis is where Lawrie was after his great first cup of tea in the majors at the end of 2011. We already know that Lawrie didn't come close to living up to those lofty expectations, and we haven't yet proven that with Travis. We also don't yet know if Travis is anywhere near as injury prone as Lawrie is.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Here's a question. Would anyone trade Devon Travis for Brett Lawrie straight up? I wouldn't but I want to be sure I'm right. It would be funny though to basically insert Gose into the Donaldson trade to make it look that much worst. Travis for Lawrie straight up might not make sense, but if we are talking about a realistic trade with the A's, those two guys would fit well as part of a bigger deal.
ScientificReason Verified Member Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Here's a question. Would anyone trade Devon Travis for Brett Lawrie straight up? I wouldn't but I want to be sure I'm right. It would be funny though to basically insert Gose into the Donaldson trade to make it look that much worst. f*** no
flafson Verified Member Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Why get Clippard if he's been to bad this year?
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Why get Clippard if he's been to bad this year? He's been bad (not terrible) for 25 innings this year, and he was excellent for five years and 400 innings before that. http://i.gyazo.com/6503078cfad7629c919dab2ab0661bba.png
GD Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Such a high salary though. Can't imagine there's no generic high Sw-Str guy out there.
flafson Verified Member Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 He's been bad (not terrible) for 25 innings this year, and he was excellent for five years and 400 innings before that. http://i.gyazo.com/6503078cfad7629c919dab2ab0661bba.png I understand your logic but just as an example, Delabar was lights out for about 2 years and i been scared to have my eyes open when he pitches this season. Pen arms are very volatile, you want to have both good numbers but almost just as important is having a hot hand.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 If we got Zobrist, where would we put him? Is he worth the cost of acquiring him and putting him in LF (which is our weakest spot) And you need to ask if he will be more productive than Smoak/Italian dude He's been terrible this year, even when you consider babip
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 If we got Zobrist, where would we put him? Is he worth the cost of acquiring him and putting him in LF (which is our weakest spot) And you need to ask if he will be more productive than Smoak/Italian dude He's been terrible this year, even when you consider babip everywhere man, true utility man
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Can't you pretty much put him anywhere? Play him at 2B while Travis is out. Play him in LF a bit... Play him in RF if you want to give Bautista a day off. Can he play short if you want to rest Reyes? Just rotate him around. It's nice to have that type of player on the bench, but I don't think its worth it considering the 1.) cost to acquire him 2.) the players he will be replacing during each game may produce more than him.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Such a high salary though. Can't imagine there's no generic high Sw-Str guy out there. Delabar is your generic high Sw-Str guy. Problem is the command is pretty bad.
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