GDT: ST Blue Jays vs Tigers (March 27) - 1:07 PM Sportsnet/MLB TV

[Dylan]

Jays taking on verlander

 

[theblujay]

Can the season just start already?

[Governator]

Part of me thinks the Jays still don't have an idea what their bench is going to look like yet on opening day.

[Dylan]

Can the season just start already?

 

Agreed.. and we still have over a week to go. At least we are seeing mostly starting lineups now. And the montreal games will bring some more entertainment.

[Dylan]

Part of me thinks the Jays still don't have an idea what their bench is going to look like yet on opening day.

I think it comes down to whether martin can catch dickey

 

With thole: Tolleson, Smoak/Navarro, Valencia, Thole

Without: Tolleson, Goins, Smoak/Navarro, Valencia

[Governator]

I think it comes down to whether martin can catch dickey

 

With thole: Tolleson, Smoak, Valencia, Thole

Without: Tolleson, Goins, Smoak, Valencia

 

+ Navarro. Are you also assuming Tolleson will be the OF back up?

[Dylan]

+ Navarro. Are you also assuming Tolleson will be the OF back up?

 

Just edited to add smoak/Navarro.

 

If saunders is back mid-april, I think they might attempt tolleson as a backup outfielder? With dirks hurt and Viciedo with a $2.5-million salary, I think they squeeze tolleson in.

[KingKat]

+ Navarro. Are you also assuming Tolleson will be the OF back up?

 

I think that's a fair assumption with Saunders on the DL and Pillar in the every day lineup. Between Pompey, Pillar and even Travis, there's no need for the emergency OF to be a CF.

[HERPDERP]

I wonder if Gose is playing.

 

Gose will be the starting CF and will be batting leadoff against righties

[Governator]

I think that's a fair assumption with Saunders on the DL and Pillar in the every day lineup. Between Pompey, Pillar and even Travis, there's no need for the emergency OF to be a CF.

 

If they are keeping Thole and when Saunders returns what would the bench change to give space for Pillar?

 

 

Saunders returns:

 

Reyes

Martin

Bautista

EE

Donaldson

Pompey

Smoak

Travis

Saunders

 

Bench: Valencia, Thole, Navarro, Tolleson, Pillar

 

That leaves only a 6 man BP. Would they option Pillar or force a catcher out at that point?

[HERPDERP]

Who is going to be the back up SS? Tolleson can play there?

[Dylan]

If they are keeping Thole and when Saunders returns what would the bench change to give space for Pillar?

Saunders returns:

 

Reyes

Martin

Bautista

EE

Donaldson

Pompey

Smoak

Travis

Saunders

 

Bench: Valencia, Thole, Navarro, Tolleson, Pillar

 

That leaves only a 6 man BP. Would they option Pillar or force a catcher out at that point?

 

I would think they option Pillar. But most likely by then there is another injury/Navarro gets traded. Losing tolleson wouldn't be the worst thing though.

[Governator]

Who is going to be the back up SS? Tolleson can play there?

 

I don't know, I think I'd prefer Goins & Pillar on the bench and Tolleson dropped at that point. Still a 5 man bench then regardless.

[Dylan]

I don't know, I think I'd prefer Goins & Pillar on the bench and Tolleson dropped at that point. Still a 5 man bench then regardless.

Still having Navarro/dickey's personal catcher really hurts our options

 

My ideal bench would be Goins, Pillar, Valencia, Thole (Navarro traded)

[HERPDERP]

I don't know, I think I'd prefer Goins & Pillar on the bench and Tolleson dropped at that point. Still a 5 man bench then regardless.

 

Yeah I like Goins because he can provide excellent defense at both mid infield corners and his s***** bat won't be too much of a problem with our line-up.

 

I think he could do well at 3B if given a try and I hear they are trying him out in the outfield.

[Governator]

Still having Navarro/dickey's personal catcher really hurts our options

 

My ideal bench would be Goins, Pillar, Valencia, Thole (Navarro traded)

 

At this point I have major doubts Navarro is traded in April, those trades just don't happen often so I wouldn't count on it and I don't think there has been any major catcher injuries this ST from starters yet. Like you mentioned, if Martin is catching Dickey fine so far (it seems that way anyway) then I think they will drop Thole and let Dickey just weep in the corner. Thole apparently has an option to be sent down but I think his veteran status blocks it. I don't know if anyone knows?

[KingKat]

Thole apparently has an option to be sent down but I think his veteran status blocks it. I don't know if anyone knows?

 

Ugh as if the whole option weren't enough to keep track of, there's also the veteran status that can cancel it out thing. I THINK you need 10 years of service for that to apply and Thole only has 6. JFaS could confirm if that's how it works.

[Governator]

Ugh as if the whole option weren't enough to keep track of, there's also the veteran status that can cancel it out thing. I THINK you need 10 years of service for that to apply and Thole only has 6. JFaS could confirm if that's how it works.

 

I thought it was 5 years for some reason.

[KingKat]

I thought it was 5 years for some reason.

 

I know it applies to Maicer and he has 11 so hopefully it's 10.

[Angrioter]

Luis Perez could pitch today.

[Spanky99]

Ugh as if the whole option weren't enough to keep track of, there's also the veteran status that can cancel it out thing. I THINK you need 10 years of service for that to apply and Thole only has 6. JFaS could confirm if that's how it works.

 

5 years.

[Governator]

Luis Perez could pitch today.

 

This makes me very happy.

[Governator]

5 years.

 

This makes me sad

[Dylan]

Someone will have to go when Saunders comes back. We can't have Tolleson as our 4th outfielder/ backup SS all season lol

[Governator]

Service Time (01/2015): 4.085

 

That's Thole's? So he's optionable correct? Well that's a major score.

[Governator]

Thole 4.085 years of service. Really, does anyone give an actual f*** if Thole or Tolleson get picked up on waivers?

 

If Martin struggles with Dickey it's nice to have that option on Thole. It's also valuable so that Navarro can still be traded and Thole utilized as Dickey's prime catcher to give Martin 4 out of 5 starts in that event.

[Dylan]

Give martin a shot in the first few games with dickey? While we continue our search for a Navarro buyer

[KingKat]

Thole 4.085 years of service. Really, does anyone give an actual f*** if Thole or Tolleson get picked up on waivers?

 

Tolleson no but the team would definitely care about Thole. Even if Martin catches Dickey, they'll want Thole around as a plan B. The fact that he CAN be optionned to AAA without exposing him is ideal.

[Spanky99]

Martin can catch Dickey.

[KingKat]

Give martin a shot in the first few games with dickey? While we continue our search for a Navarro buyer

 

Can you imagine Martin not catching in the home opener?