AdamGreenwood Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 If the Expos were still around, they could have had Martinez and Johnson at the same time. Trivia (no googling). 1) What player did the Expos trade to get Pedro Martinez? 2) What player did the Expos obtain when they traded away Randy Johnson?
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 In football you can beat your wife, abuse your kids, take PED's, etc, and still be celebrated. In baseball, if you take PED's, you're the scum of the earth. I don't know about that... Seems to me like the wife beaters and kid abusers are facing massive backlashes. You can definitely get caught with PEDS withoug much controvery though. Baseball, on the other hand, seems to have it basically backwards. PED are a huge deal and pretty much anything else, other than gambling, is mostly ignored.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 If the Expos were still around, they could have had Martinez and Johnson at the same time. Trivia (no googling). 1) What player did the Expos trade to get Pedro Martinez? 2) What player did the Expos obtain when they traded away Randy Johnson? 1. Desheilds the first 2. Mark Langston
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 If the Expos were still around, they could have had Martinez and Johnson at the same time. Trivia (no googling). 1) What player did the Expos trade to get Pedro Martinez? 2) What player did the Expos obtain when they traded away Randy Johnson? Now your turn... Which player did the Expos get back for Pedro as as straight up return from Boston?
TheHurl Site Manager Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 If the Expos were still around, they could have had Martinez and Johnson at the same time. Trivia (no googling). 1) What player did the Expos trade to get Pedro Martinez? 2) What player did the Expos obtain when they traded away Randy Johnson? Delino and Langston.
AdamGreenwood Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Either you cheated or you're really, really old. Like over 30.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Now your turn... Which player did the Expos get back for Pedro as as straight up return from Boston? Pavano and Armas Jr. Love my Expos trivia
TheHurl Site Manager Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Either you cheated or you're really, really old. Like over 30. old and traveled to Montreal for at least 3 series a year.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Pavano and Armas Jr. Love my Expos trivia s***, I forgot about Armas Jr. I could have sworn it was Pavano straight up. Reportedly, the Blue Jays turned down a Halladay for Pedro swap. Now that might have drastically altered the course of history.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 In football you can beat your wife, abuse your kids, take PED's, etc, and still be celebrated. In baseball, if you take PED's, you're the scum of the earth. bitch plssss The HOF isn't a good guy award.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 The good news is that there is only one legit name on the ballot next year (Griffey Jr., who is followed by a bunch of all star not MVP types and some relievers). This should get the momentum on Raines, Bagwell, Piazza & Schilling going. Hopefully 3 get in to clear up some of the backlog. Then we can hope for about 20% of the old f***s like Noble die off and eventually the process clears up.
AdamGreenwood Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I'd f*** her too. I'm sure she'd find that quite flattering.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I'm sure she'd find that quite flattering. lol
thatoneguy Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130725140157/codfanfic/images/3/30/Burn.gif
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Player Votes 2015% 2014% Randy Johnson 534 97.3% 1st Year Pedro Martinez 500 91.1% 1st Year John Smoltz 455 82.9% 1st Year Craig Biggio 454 82.7% 74.8% Less than 75% of vote, but still on ballot. Mike Piazza 384 69.9% 62.2% Jeff Bagwell 306 55.7% 54.3% Tim Raines 302 55.0% 46.1% Curt Schilling 215 39.2% 29.2% Roger Clemens 206 37.5% 35.4% Barry Bonds 202 36.8% 34.7% Lee Smith 166 30.2% 29.9% Edgar Martinez 148 27.0% 25.2% Alan Trammell 138 25.1% 20.8% Mike Mussina 135 24.6% 20.3% Jeff Kent 77 14.0% 15.2% Fred McGriff 71 12.9% 11.7% Larry Walker 65 11.8% 10.2% Gary Sheffield 64 11.7% 1st Year Mark McGwire 55 10.0% 11.0% Sammy Sosa 36 6.6% 7.2% Nomar Garciaparra 30 5.5% 1st Year 15 yrs on ballot, will not be on next year's ballot Don Mattingly 50 9.1% 8.2% Less than 5%, will not be on next year's ballot Carlos Delgado 21 3.8% 1st Year Troy Percival 4 0.7% 1st Year Aaron Boone 2 0.4% 1st Year Tom Gordon 2 0.4% 1st Year Darin Erstad 1 0.2% 1st Year Brian Giles 0 0.0% 1st Year Jason Schmidt 0 0.0% 1st Year Cliff Floyd 0 0.0% 1st Year Jermaine Dye 0 0.0% 1st Year Rich Aurilia 0 0.0% 1st Year Tony Clark 0 0.0% 1st Year Eddie Guardado 0 0.0% 1st Year Seriously - can they not find out who voted for Percival, Boone, Gordon and Erstad and simply revoke their right to vote? You can't have people making a mockery out of the process.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Seriously - can they not find out who voted for Percival, Boone, Gordon and Erstad and simply revoke their right to vote? You can't have people making a mockery out of the process. I think that's their point, sad man.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Seriously - can they not find out who voted for Percival, Boone, Gordon and Erstad and simply revoke their right to vote? You can't have people making a mockery out of the process. Probably the same people who didn't vote Pedro and Randy lol
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 It's more of a travesty that Pete Rose is not in. He didn't cheat when he played. He deserves to be in based on performance. That MLB would deny him HOF consideration is petty and vindictive. There are more reasonable ways to apply a disincentive to players/coaches betting on the games. Interesting talk about this on PTS with Davidi and Eliott. Davidi thinks that one of the big reasons is that Rose wants to be a HOF because he will use to for financial gain for memorabilia and stuff. I don't think he should be in personally. For you to manipulate games is the worst thing you can do as a guy in baseball.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Davidi thinks that one of the big reasons is that Rose wants to be a HOF because he will use to for financial gain for memorabilia and stuff. How, exactly? Wouldn't make a difference IMO
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Interesting talk about this on PTS with Davidi and Eliott. Davidi thinks that one of the big reasons is that Rose wants to be a HOF because he will use to for financial gain for memorabilia and stuff. I don't think he should be in personally. For you to manipulate games is the worst thing you can do as a guy in baseball. He didn't manipulate games? He bet on his club, very different. He deserves to be in, but I get a chuckle when guys, mostly older than me think he's in conversation of GOAT! That's a f***ing joke, he played hard with longevity, but should never be in that discussion .
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Bonds, clemens, johnson, biggio, piazza, smoltz, Bagwell, raines, walker, Pedro, mussina, schilling, martinez, trammell. 10 votes max is stupid, outdated and blatantly retarded. I refuse to abide by their idiotic rules I'd also beat the s*** out of the comissioner, reinstate Rose, then make the veterans committed induct him and McGwire. Then if any old idiot HOF members boycott the induction ceremony, i'd tell them to shut the f*** up an deal with it. They cheated too.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Bonds, clemens, johnson, biggio, piazza, smoltz, Bagwell, raines, walker, Pedro, mussina, schilling, martinez, trammell. 10 votes max is stupid, outdated and blatantly retarded. I refuse to abide by their idiotic rules I'd also beat the s*** out of the comissioner, reinstate Rose, then make the veterans committed induct him and McGwire. lol
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 And let me clarify, I thought McGwire had fallen off already. He's on my list.
LongTimeReader Verified Member Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 f***ing Sandra Bullock and HOF discussion.... finally a worthy thread
spats Verified Member Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 It's a great venue for a baseball fan besides the HOF itself and the park. Beautiful little town with vendors and former HOFamers signing on the main street(Had a picture taken with Alomar on the street). They also have a parade with all the elected members who are present sitting in a car with their name on it....probably about 20 the year I was there...only Barry Larkin and Ron Santo along with Bob Elliot were elected on a down year.Anybody ever been to an Induction ceremony? I'm heading down this year and was wondering what it was like and if there's any other special/cool things they do during the weekend.
spats Verified Member Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 It's ridiculous that Bonds, the greatest hitter of our generation and maybe of all time might not get in. These writers need to get their heads out of their ass.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 f***ing Sandra Bullock and HOF discussion.... finally a worthy thread lol
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