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Source: Vlad Guerrero's son, BlueJays and a posible verbal agreement.

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Ang was the first one to report it that the Jays signed him

 

Yes but only because McDaniel didn't reveal it. Ang lacks the respect to his sources.

 

Honestly I'm just kidding around I love our Mexican contingent and his sources.

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Curious to see how much the Jays will go over budget in the upcoming signing period. Maybe the reason the big league payroll is smaller than what we thought is because they are going to spend 15 million on IFAs?
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Curious to see how much the Jays will go over budget in the upcoming signing period. Maybe the reason the big league payroll is smaller than what we thought is because they are going to spend 15 million on IFAs?

 

I've read that somewhere on here, they plan on going big.

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Yeah but "big" is such a grey area lol. That could mean 10 million, or it could mean 30 million like Yankees last year.

 

Regardless, the aggressiveness suits me just fine, the article I read was they'd put the Yankees to shame and it wouldn't intefere with MLB payroll. IIRC.

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Damn, I thought due to his age he was going to be an IFA.

 

No, he's played proball at an extremely young age, he's just waiting on his instatement by the US government.

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Damn, I thought due to his age he was going to be an IFA.

He is, Moncada is regarded the same way as Guerrero by MLB. He falls under the IFA bonus rules and such. The team that signs him will pay a lot of tax.

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Can't wait until mini Vlad signs with some other team and we can all take turns laughing at Ang.

 

Who was the big name guy that Ang said was getting suspended? Did that ever happen?

 

nvm just noticed that Kiley Mc is saying it's true and that's why this is getting bumped

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Can't wait until mini Vlad signs with some other team and we can all take turns laughing at Ang.

 

Who was the big name guy that Ang said was getting suspended? Did that ever happen?

 

nvm just noticed that Kiley Mc is saying it's true and that's why this is getting bumped

 

lol

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He is, Moncada is regarded the same way as Guerrero by MLB. He falls under the IFA bonus rules and such. The team that signs him will pay a lot of tax.

 

No he doesn't? Link, pleeeeeaase!

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Can't wait until mini Vlad signs with some other team and we can all take turns laughing at Ang.

 

Who was the big name guy that Ang said was getting suspended? Did that ever happen?

 

nvm just noticed that Kiley Mc is saying it's true and that's why this is getting bumped

 

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Ang = The Mexican Kevin Gray

 

Too perfect

but I'm dark and handsome

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Here's how it's gonna go for the Jays with respect to the international market...

 

They will spend beyond the cap.

 

They will spend enough that they will be penalized the max amount (and I think you hit the max as soon as you go past 15% of your cap).

 

That said, they will go nowhere near where the Yankees went. I'd be shocked if they can anywhere near $10M... I'm thinking much less.

 

The reason for this is based on the team philosophy which we've seen several times before (Beede, Bickford, etc.), where they play hardball, go to a predetermined amount, and don't really move up much. They will be outbid on a lot of guys that Badler will say that they are in on, and ultimately lose out on.

 

If you're gonna go for it, then go for it like the Yankees did. I don't have much confidence that the Jays will do that.

 

MLB draft and IFA aren't the same thing. With the rumor 3.2 million to Vlad Jr, they surely have gone over their cap when the numbers come out.

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Here's how it's gonna go for the Jays with respect to the international market...

 

They will spend beyond the cap.

 

They will spend enough that they will be penalized the max amount (and I think you hit the max as soon as you go past 15% of your cap).

 

That said, they will go nowhere near where the Yankees went. I'd be shocked if they can anywhere near $10M... I'm thinking much less.

 

The reason for this is based on the team philosophy which we've seen several times before (Beede, Bickford, etc.), where they play hardball, go to a predetermined amount, and don't really move up much. They will be outbid on a lot of guys that Badler will say that they are in on, and ultimately lose out on.

 

If you're gonna go for it, then go for it like the Yankees did. I don't have much confidence that the Jays will do that.

 

I disagree.

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Of course they're not the same thing....but the way they evaluate talent and remain steadfast on any offers is. It's the way they handle the draft, the way they handle Free Agency (AA has said they don't make offers...they wait for the agent to tell them what they're looking for, and if it jives, they make an offer at that point), and it's the way they handle IFA.

 

You're getting MLB and IFA business mixed up, once they spend past the cap, they pretty much should go all in. I see no reason why they wouldn't it's a different pool of money for much less, with massive upside. Cheaper than the draft with less risk.

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I totally understand the logic...and I agree that going all in is the smart move, but my gut is just telling me that the Jays 'balls deep' isn't going to be what you or I consider 'balls deep'.

 

We'll see...word is they are.

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