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Listen. I get it. Navarro was last as f*** on that play. But even had he been an athletic catcher with hustle, it almost certainly would have bounded off of him. Probably would have kicked off him sliding over and created even more trouble. It doesn't excuse the effort, but his lack of effort also doesn't excuse the WP.

 

People are angry with Navarro because he is a terrible catcher and the offence that he was signed for has not showed up. If he was putting up a 110wRC+ I think people would be more forgiving with Navarro's defence. But he has been pretty bad this season so he deserves a lot of criticism.

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Listen. I get it. Navarro was last as f*** on that play. But even had he been an athletic catcher with hustle, it almost certainly would have bounded off of him. Probably would have kicked off him sliding over and created even more trouble. It doesn't excuse the effort, but his lack of effort also doesn't excuse the WP.

 

Lol.. "Probably would have kicked off him?" We'll never know because the fat pos wasn't physically able to apply basic catcher fundamentals. Last i've heard it was ok for pitchers to occasionally bounce a ball in the dirt.

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Listen. I get it. Navarro was lazy as f*** on that play. But even had he been an athletic catcher with hustle, it almost certainly would have bounded off of him. Probably would have kicked off him sliding over and created even more trouble. It doesn't excuse the effort, but his lack of effort also doesn't excuse the WP.

 

A good catcher keeps that in front of him and not only does the run not score but the runners don't advance. Navarro has been lazy like this his whole career. This isn't new, hell Tampa and LA will tell the same story. Yea he got in shape and did ok for the Cubs in a back up role last year but soon as he got the two year deal right back to out of shape and Lazy.

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Play Goins at 3rd and DH Lind for him, letting the pitcher hit. Best possible lineup.

 

s***, you're extra sharp tonight. BTW, it would be Kawasaki at third.

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Anyone thinking he was going to provide much more offense than this was silly. And much of the "framing" issue is on the pitchers.

 

You can't seriously believe that about framing can you? Why was Kratz so much better then? Just by watching you can tell Navarro struggles with framing.

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No. That's completely unrealistic. It was a sharp late break away. Superman wouldn't have gotten in front of it. The best outcome could have been trying to scoot over while also backhanding and getting a lucky bounce into the glove, or a good angles bounce off the body and close to the plate. But that's best possible. Realistic is it's still missed as he shifts over, or it kicks off the side of him and toward the dugout.

 

Umm it was a 2 seam fastball that broke in towards Navarro...

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I'm not speaking about framing generally here. Just what I'm seeing with Navarro. I didn't see every pitch, but of the ones I saw that were cried about, there were two legitimate whines. And one was Stroman missing his spot, and the other was a fine reception, but the ump blew it.

 

There has been more than that. Also good framers are good because they can take a pitch that didn't hit their spot and still get the strike call, would you not agree?

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I'm not speaking about framing generally here. Just what I'm seeing with Navarro. I didn't see every pitch, but of the ones I saw that were cried about, there were two legitimate whines. And one was Stroman missing his spot, and the other was a fine reception, but the ump blew it.

 

you can bring up anecdotal evidence in almost any game but the fact of the matter is navarro is a bottom 3 framer in the entire league

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