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JFaS is AA, or AA is reading this forum?

 

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AA isn't opposed to going multi years to sign a reliever but "knowing the volatility of relievers, it has to be the right guy" #BlueJays

saskjayfan Dunedin Blue Jays

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so with out need for relief pitchers.....castro surely can't crack the opening day roster can he? Will he come up mid season, September, or not at all? Tough to tell with such a young player, but it sounded like AA wants to gamble on the kid.
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so with out need for relief pitchers.....castro surely can't crack the opening day roster can he? Will he come up mid season, September, or not at all? Tough to tell with such a young player, but it sounded like AA wants to gamble on the kid.

 

Probably a path similar to Norris. He still needs work on his secondary pitches and command. Right now the fastball is plus (maybe plus plus) but thats it.

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The three players acquired this off season has brought a lot of respect to AA. We need him to follow up by acquiring proven relievers. Very important to have a good relief core

 

Who would you like? Chapman? Kimbrel? Jansen?

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What if Chapman were to be converted into a starter? Would you do it then?

 

Well, if you traded for Chapman as a reliever, you could convert him into a starter anyway, lol

 

Assuming Chapman is like a 4 win pitcher (JFaS posted numbers I think?), you'd be paying 5 cheap-ish years of a 2.5-3 win pitcher for 1 year of 4 wins at a not-inexpensive salary and then maybe the right to pay him at the very least market value

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Who would you like? Chapman? Kimbrel? Jansen?

 

Proven relievers does not equal high end closers

 

Proven relievers as in guys who have consistently provided good relief pitching in the past

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Question does anyone expect to have AA in on the hamels trade rumours ? at least kick the tires , starting rotation may not be a weakness but when we look at what Boston has done I for one would love to see a move for Hamels . What would it take to get it done ? Obviously they are not moving Stroman , Sanchez or Pompey.
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Question does anyone expect to have AA in on the hamels trade rumours ? at least kick the tires , starting rotation may not be a weakness but when we look at what Boston has done I for one would love to see a move for Hamels . What would it take to get it done ? Obviously they are not moving Stroman , Sanchez or Pompey.

 

No

 

The money it self maybe not worth it, since Shields is asking for the same.

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Question does anyone expect to have AA in on the hamels trade rumours ? at least kick the tires , starting rotation may not be a weakness but when we look at what Boston has done I for one would love to see a move for Hamels . What would it take to get it done ? Obviously they are not moving Stroman , Sanchez or Pompey.

 

They're going to be asking for a boatload of talent for the right to pay full market value in trade. Just doesn't make sense for ANY team to do that trade.

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No

 

The money it self maybe not worth it, since Shields is asking for the same.

 

I would argue that he is good Value when you look at what Lester got from the Cubs 6 years 155 million Hamels is 90 mill for 4 years with a 20 mill option in 2019 Hamels is cheaper and I would argue that he is a better Pitcher. and stats say that his fastball velocity have gone up the last 3 years . plus 4 years of control is pretty stable and lines up with the window the jays seem to have to win . and he said he wants to go to a contender and win .

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I would argue that he is good Value when you look at what Lester got from the Cubs 6 years 155 million Hamels is 90 mill for 4 years with a 20 mill option in 2019 Hamels is cheaper and I would argue that he is a better Pitcher. and stats say that his fastball velocity have gone up the last 3 years . plus 4 years of control is pretty stable and lines up with the window the jays seem to have to win . and he said he wants to go to a contender and win .

 

On a free agent deal, sure... Not when the Phillies are going to be asking for a huge return of assets.

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Sanchez and Pompey should absolutely be on the table for Hamels.

 

I'm not sure I would go that far but I'd atleast test the waters with some prospects . No one would care in october that the prospect shelf is dry if the jays are a contender in the post season

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Sanchez and Pompey should absolutely be on the table for Hamels.

 

Especially if they'd eat some dough.

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Especially if they'd eat some dough.

 

I'd hate to give up top end prospects for a guy with that much mileage on the arm.

 

If they can't get Shields, Jays should target a guy like Edwin Jackson from the Cubbies as 5th starter, bullpen rightie. Jackson seems to be surplus now. Cubbies will have to eat some salary tho

 

Allows Sanchez and Norris to start the year in Buffalo

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nice site, thanks Spanky.... too late to get on Santa's good list though

 

Agreed, first time I've been to that site. Very nice!

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