Offseason roster thread 2014

[burlingtonbandit]

PETCO? lol

 

Thats why I had to add the thing about pitcher's parks because some idiot would reference OPS without looking at park factors.

[RealAccountant]

Or management spending 3+ million on someone that's no better than whom they currently employ. Headley was having a pretty s***** year pre trade.

 

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Hey there mike Wilner

[RealAccountant]

Wilner had it right a platoon of tolleson and Kawasaki is just as good as Prado

 

Don't know why ppl are upset.

[Brenner]

Prado while having a bad year is still better than the options at 2b we have. He might end up producing more war in his 100 or so "bad" games for Arizona than our Kawa/Tolly/Goins combo will for the year. Though to be honest I've been saying for a long time now Reyes should be at 2b and we should be looking for a SS.

[jaysblue]

Wilner had it right a platoon of tolleson and Kawasaki is just as good as Prado

 

Don't know why ppl are upset.

 

Mike Wilner is never wrong!

[burlingtonbandit]

You can try to justify it all you want. If you have an OPS of 650 you're having a pretty s***** year at the plate regardless of what park you're in.

 

Well first of all your facts are wrong since he has a OPS of .679. There are much better stats like wRC+ to use to tell how good a player has been at the plate. His wRC+ is 96 now so he has been a little below average, but the defence makes up for it.

[RealAccountant]

Nothing wrong about my facts. At the time of the trade he had a 651 OPS. What he's done since is irrelevant.

 

If Alex had made the trade that Elliot proposed was on the table the Jays may or may not be another game or two above .500 and still out of the playoff picture. The difference being that you whinny bitches would be bitching about an overpay for a rental instead of the lack of one.

 

The trade would have had an uplifting impact on the clubhouse, and Bautista and Company would have had a much better August. It was the lack of moves at the deadline that killed the spirit of this team

 

Just because you cant quantify qualitative factors, doesn't make them irrelevant

[RealAccountant]

How'd that work out for Detroit and Oakland?

 

They are both going to the playoffs,

[Vincent]

They are both going to the playoffs,

 

Wildcard berth is not playoffs IMO. Though Detroit should still likely win the division.

[RealAccountant]

Wildcard berth is not playoffs IMO. Though Detroit should still likely win the division.

 

well then your opinion is factually incorrect.

[Vincent]

well then your opinion is factually incorrect.

 

No. You said they are "both" going to the play-offs. Oakland may not even win a WC spot let alone make the "play-offs".

 

By the way, I have no idea why you're not on my IL already.

[RealAccountant]

No. You said they are "both" going to the play-offs. Oakland may not even win a WC spot let alone make the "play-offs".

 

By the way, I have no idea why you're not on my IL already.

 

lol

 

you said a wild card birth is not playoffs

 

That is factually incorrect, because wild cards are part of MLB Playoffs

 

Oakland has a 2 game lead, with about 12 games to go. Add to that, Seatle has lots of games against LA.

 

Oakland is likely going to the playoffs as is Detroit

[Chappy]

One is right and the other is incredibly wrong.

[Vincent]

lol

 

you said a wild card birth is not playoffs

 

That is factually incorrect, because wild cards are part of MLB Playoffs

 

Oakland has a 2 game lead, with about 12 games to go. Add to that, Seatle has lots of games against LA.

 

Oakland is likely going to the playoffs as is Detroit

 

OK......... please never talk to me ever again. Thank you.

[Mikeleelop]

OK......... please never talk to me ever again. Thank you.

 

you are in control here - use the Ignore function

[burlingtonbandit]

Did Highhard1 forget to switch his account from Vincent?

[Vincent]

did highhard1 forget to switch his account from vincent?

 

Wut

[baseballsss]

lol

 

you said a wild card birth is not playoffs

 

That is factually incorrect, because wild cards are part of MLB Playoffs

 

Oakland has a 2 game lead, with about 12 games to go. Add to that, Seatle has lots of games against LA.

 

Oakland is likely going to the playoffs as is Detroit

 

seattle has 4 games against us. There's a good chance OKC doesn't make the playoffs

[Vincent]

seattle has 4 games against us. There's a good chance OKC doesn't make the playoffs

 

Lol, ouch

[dannyboy]

Try to trade Navarro.

Rasmus- gone

Morrow- renegotiate or let him walk

Mcgowan- gone

Janssen- gone

Melky- reasonable 3-4 year contract resign or let him walk

Happ- pick up option

Santos- gone

Lind- pick up option

Izturis- buy him out

Valencia- gone

Kawasak- if he'll sign the same contract bring him back

Francisco- IDK

Thole- IDK

Buehrle- try to trade

Reyes- try to trade

 

Navarro - I keep.

Morrow - I decline the option, and try to resign him as a reliever. He can't start anymore.

Melky - I feel like he can be worth the 12-14 it would take to sign him. Defensively, he probably only has 1-2 years left. After that, he's the full-time DH with the occasional OF start.

Happ - Decline and resign as a long reliever or minor league starting depth

Izturis - I keep, decent bench bat, good defensive versatility.

Valencia - keep, if he can be had for less than 3M in arbitration. Good bat, occasional starter

Kawasaki - Minor league depth

Francisco - Gone. Too much swing and miss for that kind of power.

Thole - need him for Dickey, as no other catcher has proven capable of catching a knuckler.

Reyes - Keep, only true leadoff hitter we have, and his contract absolutely makes hum untradeable.

 

The rest, I agree with.

[immature]

This would look a lot better.

 

- Marcus Stroman 10-6 ERA 3.80 xFIP 3.25 23

- Drew Hutchison 10-12 ERA 4.51 xFIP 3.87 24

- Henderson Alvarez 11-6 ERA 2.82 xFIP 3.51 24

- Daniel Norris (AAA) 3-1 ERA 3.18 FIP 2.21 21

- Noah Syndergaard (AAA) 9-7 ERA 4.60 FIP 3.70 22

- Justin Nicolino (AA) 14-4 ERA 2.85 FIP 3.44 22

- Anthony DeSclafini (AAA) 3-3 ERA 3.49 FIP 3.41 24

Had some time in MLB with 4.04 xFIP

- Aaron Sanchez 28IP Relief 2-1 1.26 ERA 2.68 xFIP 22

- Kendal Graveman (AAA) 3-2 1.88 ERA 2.94 FIP 24

 

Plus d’Arnaud with 1.5WAR and impressive framing. 25

Hech with a 0.5 WAR and a salary of 2.2 Mill 25

Marisnick 55GP 0.3 WAR 23

 

Minus 53 Mill in salary from Reyes, Dickey and Buehrle and add about 10 Mill from who I added.

[Mikeleelop]

so in the keith law chat today he stated that AA was permitted to trade but not to add ANY ADDITIONAL salary during the season. This, if true, is utter ********.

 

Rogers should catch a whole lot of s*** from fans everywhere. To be so close and not add any salary is cruel and unusual punishment.

[BTS]

so in the keith law chat today he stated that AA was permitted to trade but not to add ANY ADDITIONAL salary during the season. This, if true, is utter ********.

 

Rogers should catch a whole lot of s*** from fans everywhere. To be so close and not add any salary is cruel and unusual punishment.

 

But AA and Beeston claimed that the money was there!

[Vincent]

But AA and Beeston claimed that the money was there!

 

With the oversized Buehrle and Reyes contracts did you honestly expect that they would spend any money...

[KingKat]

But AA and Beeston claimed that the money was there!

 

A lie that would only make them seem more incompetent if we actually believed it.

[KingKat]

With the oversized Buehrle and Reyes contracts did you honestly expect that they would spend any money...

 

No he didn't. His point is they were lying.

[Deadpool]

Happ - Decline and resign as a long reliever or minor league starting depth

 

Happ gets more than his option ($6.7M IIRC) on the open market, so if you decline that option, he's gone.

[Vincent]

No he didn't. His point is they were lying.

 

I know. I'm just saying I never figured they would spend regardless of what was said.

 

The only reason Rogers had money for 2013 was because Nadir Mohamed decided to go out with a bang.

[BTS]

A lie that would only make them seem more incompetent if we actually believed it.

 

That's the amazing thing. They aren't even lying competently.

[RealAccountant]

That's the amazing thing. They aren't even lying competently.

 

lol hahahahahahahahhaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

AA and Beaston should be demoted to Rogers Telephone customer esrvice reps