GDT(3/3): Toronto Blue Jays @ Chicago White Sox - Hutchison vs. Carroll - 2:10 PM ET

[burlingtonbandit]

He's a scrub' date=' it has nothing to do with calming down. He has been inconsistent all year, especially at home. If you think a guy with an ERA of 5 and a WHIP over 130 is serviceable then you need to start following another sport there buddy. He's had way more horrible starts then he has had good ones and his ups and down need to be worked out at another level at this point. He lacks command down in the zone with his fastball and it has been that way over 25 starts, which IMO, is more than a large enough sample size to make that judgement.[/quote']

 

You are the scrub here...

[havok24]

He's a scrub' date=' it has nothing to do with calming down. He has been inconsistent all year, especially at home. If you think a guy with an ERA of 5 and a WHIP over 130 is serviceable then you need to start following another sport there buddy. He's had way more horrible starts then he has had good ones and his ups and down need to be worked out at another level at this point. He lacks command down in the zone with his fastball and it has been that way over 25 starts, which IMO, is more than a large enough sample size to make that judgement.[/quote']

 

4.05 xFIP, 3.87 SIERA, 8.15 K/9, 2.89 BB/9 heading into today's game. Those numbers suggest to me that Hutch has been a serviceable back of the rotation option for the Jays this season. He isn't a scrub for f*** sakes. He was awful tonight, but big deal.

[Iluvbjs]

6 runs and 40 pitches and they're leaving this idiot out there? LOL, blows up two important games against Seatlle and this weak ass team, essentially killing any outside chance this team might have had at a wild card spot.

[Slider]

Abreu is coming up..could be ugly

[Orgfiller]

Oh f*** off Francisco.

[burlingtonbandit]

6 runs and 40 pitches and they're leaving this idiot out there? LOL' date=' blows up two important games against Seatlle and this weak ass team, essentially killing any outside chance this team might have had at a wild card spot.[/quote']

 

They already have very little chance of a wildcard spot. One start doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.

[Horses Fart]

Haha. B4 this series started we were saying we got to sweep this one..........yeah right. How's loose 2 of 3.

[gruber92]

Hey what a concept going after Dunn.

[Orgfiller]

Three groundballs after the leadoff double, much better Hutch.

[jaysfan2014]

Thank goodness for that Dunn GIDP there..

[burlingtonbandit]

Chase Headley is not an upgrade-Wilner

[Candide]

4.05 xFIP, 3.87 SIERA, 8.15 K/9, 2.89 BB/9 heading into today's game. Those numbers suggest to me that Hutch has been a serviceable back of the rotation option for the Jays this season. He isn't a scrub for f*** sakes. He was awful tonight, but big deal.

 

Hutch pitched some absolute gems in his first season back from TJS. I'm willing to give him a long leash for this season and the next one - what does irk me a bit is that Gibby doesn't yank him early enough when he struggles in they key games down the stretch. Even if it means taxing the bullpen, I'd rather run that risk in August than having a fully rested bullpen playing irrelevant games by September...

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Oh wow..Hutch got out of that inning with no runs scored.

[Iluvbjs]

You are the scrub here...

 

Your mom is the one scrubbing off her knee pads at my house asswipe.

 

As for him being a serviceable starter? He has been extremely inconsistent through the entire season. You take out his two shutout games and he has an ERA right around 6. He has been a complete no show all year at home, blowing up games start after start, consistently not giving his team a chance to win. He needs to go down and work on his fastball command so he doesn't hand us an ERA of around 7 in our own ballpark.

[John_Havok]

Hutch pitched some absolute gems in his first season back from TJS. I'm willing to give him a long leash for this season and the next one - what does irk me a bit is that Gibby doesn't yank him early enough when he struggles in they key games down the stretch. Even if it means taxing the bullpen, I'd rather run that risk in August than having a fully rested bullpen playing irrelevant games by September...

 

Maybe, but the pen is already in a bad spot from the last two games, they can't bring Jenkins back yet, and who knows what Drabek would do. I think Hutch has to wear this one for as long as he can.

[Iluvbjs]

f***ing fanboys can't handle anyone criticizing their boyfriend and instantly get their panties in a bunch when somebody does. He's been inconsistent all year, lacking fastball command and at one point, had the worst ERA of any MLB starter in his own ballpark. He shows falshes of excellence, getting his stuff down and beating good teams, then falls of for 5 or 6 starts. That tells me flat out he's not ready to pitch at this level. If we expect to field a winner, we can't have a guy like this in our rotation. If our team is going to let this guy learn on the job, they need to do the same with all of our young pitchers and rid ourselves of f***ing ****s like Dickey and Happ, who do only enough to keep their jobs by throwing a decent game or two once ina while before getting lit up for 6 or 7 starts. f***ing fanboys on here who've obviously never played this game make me laugh out loud.

[Orgfiller]

^ Why so mad?

[Orgfiller]

Get a good swing here Eddy.

[burlingtonbandit]

^ Why so mad?

 

sounds like he stayed up past his bedtime last night and is cranky today.

[jays76]

This is pivotal, we need to go on a 2 out rampage too.

[jaysfan2014]

Bases loaded for Lind. How about a big hit now?

[GD]

f***ing fanboys can't handle anyone criticizing their boyfriend and instantly get their panties in a bunch when somebody does. He's been inconsistent all year' date=' lacking fastball command and at one point, had the worst ERA of any MLB starter in his own ballpark. He shows falshes of excellence, getting his stuff down and beating good teams, then falls of for 5 or 6 starts. That tells me flat out he's not ready to pitch at this level. If we expect to field a winner, we can't have a guy like this in our rotation. If our team is going to let this guy learn on the job, they need to do the same with all of our young pitchers and rid ourselves of f***ing ****s like Dickey and Happ, who do only enough to keep their jobs by throwing a decent game or two once ina while before getting lit up for 6 or 7 starts. f***ing fanboys on here who've obviously never played this game make me laugh out loud.[/quote']

 

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[Candy Maldonado]

f***ing fanboys can't handle anyone criticizing their boyfriend and instantly get their panties in a bunch when somebody does. He's been inconsistent all year' date=' lacking fastball command and at one point, had the worst ERA of any MLB starter in his own ballpark. He shows falshes of excellence, getting his stuff down and beating good teams, then falls of for 5 or 6 starts. That tells me flat out he's not ready to pitch at this level. If we expect to field a winner, we can't have a guy like this in our rotation. If our team is going to let this guy learn on the job, they need to do the same with all of our young pitchers and rid ourselves of f***ing ****s like Dickey and Happ, who do only enough to keep their jobs by throwing a decent game or two once ina while before getting lit up for 6 or 7 starts. f***ing fanboys on here who've obviously never played this game make me laugh out loud.[/quote']

 

hahahahhahahaha stupid f***ing fanboys hahahahahahahahaha

[Orgfiller]

sounds like he stayed up past his bedtime last night and is cranky today.

 

I love the "have you ever even played baseball before?" Perfect way to cap off a horrible post.

[jays76]

And he loads the bases so Lind can hit a weak dribbler, I GUARANTEE IT

 

If not do you promise not to be a debbie downer douchebag for the rest of the thread?

[burlingtonbandit]

Borderline pitch? Not even close Buck, you dumbass.

 

Classic Buck. If the ball hit the dirt he would still say this.

[GD]

Hahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

aaaaaaand we have lost coherency

[Slider]

As always..jays cant score with runners in scoring position.

[havok24]

I realize a GDT is going to have its own share of reactionary posts, but holy s*** this thread is awful.

[jays76]

And he loads the bases so Lind can hit a weak dribbler, I GUARANTEE IT

 

Alright alright good call.