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GDT(2/3): Detroit Tigers @ Toronto Blue Jays - Scherzer vs. Stroman - 1:07 PM ET


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It's not the ump's fault. He's simply not physically able to tell where the ball crosses the plate, none of the umps are. They guess.
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Just like globalization(integration)... it sucks.

Thye can switch it back anytime they want to NL umps,and AL umps,and we will get more consistency.

 

They should make mandatory eye tests and performance reviews a few times a year for the umps. We have the pitching tracking now and it should be weighed against what they're calling. Allow managers and players to file complaints against them. If it's obvious they called a strike when it's 6" outside hold it against them and if they called it a ball right down the middle. I think that would go a long way if their jobs depended on it. Everyone screws up especially under pressure of the bigs but hold them accountable. If people screwed up as much as they did at their jobs they'd be disciplined or terminated.

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It's not the ump's fault. He's simply not physically able to tell where the ball crosses the plate, none of the umps are. They guess.

 

That is true in many cases but if that's what they have to do then why have the umps? Go to the computer tracking. if they guess wrong it's annoying at best, a game changer at worse all for guessing.

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So far this game has been as advertised: nice pitching match up. One big hit could be the ball game like it has been the past few games.
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That is true in many cases but if that's what they have to do then why have the umps? Go to the computer tracking. if they guess wrong it's annoying at best, a game changer at worse all for guessing.

You have the umps because they didn't have computers in the 1880s.

 

The umps should be given computer aids (like Google Glass or just relayed balls/strikes through a headset) because as humans they're not able to accurately discern where the ball crossed the plate. Not because they're lazy/bad at their jobs. It should be about helping the umps, not crucifying or replacing them.

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it's not the ump's fault. He's simply not physically able to tell where the ball crosses the plate, none of the umps are. They guess.

lol

That reads as funny.

So then we should use a big robot computer who can tell,then makes a beeping sound for a strike.

That would be fine with me,as long as they got it right.

Umps were much less hated,that they are now.

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They should make mandatory eye tests and performance reviews a few times a year for the umps. We have the pitching tracking now and it should be weighed against what they're calling. Allow managers and players to file complaints against them. If it's obvious they called a strike when it's 6" outside hold it against them and if they called it a ball right down the middle. I think that would go a long way if their jobs depended on it. Everyone screws up especially under pressure of the bigs but hold them accountable. If people screwed up as much as they did at their jobs they'd be disciplined or terminated.

Good idea!

Just like the NFL has accountability,and punishemnt for bad refs,who make bad calls.

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You have the umps because they didn't have computers in the 1880s.

 

The umps should be given computer aids (like Google Glass or just relayed balls/strikes through a headset) because as humans they're not able to accurately discern where the ball crossed the plate. Not because they're lazy/bad at their jobs. It should be about helping the umps, not crucifying or replacing them.

 

Google glasses or something isn't a bad idea. It can instantly show them where the pitch was or track it.

 

I wasn't saying they all were, my apologies if I was generalizing too much. I'm sure there are some lazy ones like everywhere and everyone makes a bad call but I was reserving the comment to those who seem to be consistently inconsistent. I should have specified that more.

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lol

That reads as funny.

So then we should use a big robot computer who can tell,then makes a beeping sound for a strike.

That would be fine with me,as long as they got it right.

Umps were much less hated,that they are now.

I'm serious!

 

Being able to tell within an inch where a small round projectile that travels at 90+ mph while breaking as much as a foot in two dimensions crosses a pentagonal plane at a height that depends on the batter's stance is unpossible. It's unfair to expect the umps to be perfect (or close to it) because they're not endowed with the tools to do so.

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You have the umps because they didn't have computers in the 1880s.

 

The umps should be given computer aids (like Google Glass or just relayed balls/strikes through a headset) because as humans they're not able to accurately discern where the ball crossed the plate. Not because they're lazy/bad at their jobs. It should be about helping the umps, not crucifying or replacing them.

Thats why it worked better when there were NL,and AL umpires who stuck to their own leagues.

They had some cool umpires who were actually liked,and added personality to the game.

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Good idea!

Just like the NFL has accountability,and punishemnt for bad refs,who make bad calls.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing some who are known to blow it to be punished. Some ump blowing a call once in a while isn't the end of the world but it should be noted. If it's consistent or consistently inconsistent with a strike zone, or making bad calls then there should be some kind of penalty. Another example is if an ump seems to favour or single out certain players for an unreasonable or personal matter and punishes them ie calls a strike on a close pitch against a hitter or a ball against a pitcher. There's enforcing your authority and letting them know especially a young, hot headed player, that they have to act a certain way and then there's what we've seen some umps do, take something personal and really overreact. Thankfully that doesn't happen a lot.

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I'm serious!

 

Being able to tell within an inch where a small round projectile that travels at 90+ mph while breaking as much as a foot in two dimensions crosses a pentagonal plane at a height that depends on the batter's stance is unpossible. It's unfair to expect the umps to be perfect (or close to it) because they're not endowed with the tools to do so.

I know you are serious,but the statement in itself sounds funny.

Not that long ago,they had no trouble calling accurate strikes,and players didn,t argue anywhere near the amount they do today.

You add up all those calls over a game,and it enrages some players,and fans,plus that tracker thing on tv.

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About the worst field postition+ pitch selection by navarro....if no one is near LF....u dont throw fastballs repeatedly to vmart on the outside corner....he is batting .320...wtf that was so f***ing stupid
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About the worst field postition+ pitch selection by navarro....if no one is near LF....u dont throw fastballs repeatedly to vmart on the outside corner....he is batting .320...wtf that was so f***ing stupid

 

He won't hit it where it's pitched. No way. He's not batting .350 only .320! Oh look what happened. Just when you think Narvy is putting it together that happens.

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If Buck and Pat love the Tigers and Dave Dombrowski so much they can go ahead and put in their 2 weeks and apply for a job. This is a Jays broadcast, stop trying to make it an 'everyone but' broadcast. We don't watch because we want to feel s***** about our team compared to literally everyone else.

Bring back Fergie Oliver!

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Extend Melky now!!!

 

I hope they extend him soon (at least before FA window expires) since it'll be a blow next year. I might cry if they let him go without any intention on bringing him back and/or to a team that has an offer the Jays could easily match or beat.

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