Jays thinking about using Sanchez and Norris in pen after All Star break.

[jerb]

 

JIM BOWDEN

‏@JimBowdenESPNxm

Blue Jays giving serious consideration of bringing up Aaron Sanchez & Daniel Norris sometime after AS break to work & develop out of bullpen

[BTS]

lol

[intentional wok]

Uh...

[Anemic0ffense]

Desperation move if I ever saw one.

[ElNik2013]

So now Bowden is a legitimate source?

 

LOL, anything to bash AA I guess.

 

We'll see what happens.

[Nox]

Sanchez is not good/ready so that's an obviously bad idea.

 

I'm sure Norris would be a fine loogy but why would you start his service time clock on such an experiment? It's not that hard to find a left handed slop baller that can fill that role fairly effectively.

[TheHurl]

doesn't bother me as long as three things are happening

 

1. They acquire a starter

2. They are trading bullpen arms

3. they won't throw some arbitrary limit on them next season

[SpeedyGose]

Not sure why they need another lefty in the pen. Cecil and Loup are plenty good. Loup can even go back to being a LOOGY if they need him to with Santos, Dusty and Cecil all back

[jaysfan2014]

doesn't bother me as long as three things are happening

 

1. They acquire a starter

2. They are trading bullpen arms

3. they won't throw some arbitrary limit on them next season

 

Most like #2. Also it's likely that the Jays are limiting Sanchez and Norris's innings to protect their arms this year.

[flafson]

Our pen sucks right now, can't say i blame them. It also worked alright with Stroman so they will try it on others.

[Angrioter]

That's a good news. As long as both are ready.

True Cards move

[Daniel Labude]

This would make trading for a frontline pitcher or Beltre unlikely....what can we get with our other (lower) prospects?

[G-Snarls]

This would make trading for a frontline pitcher or Beltre unlikely....what can we get with our other (lower) prospects?

 

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[burlingtonbandit]

Our pen sucks right now, can't say i blame them. It also worked alright with Stroman so they will try it on others.

 

It did not work with Stroman in any sense. He came up said he was uncomfortable and had to go back down and get stretched out again.

 

This would be an awful decision because:

 

1. Norris and Sanchez are used to starting and coming out of the bullpen will probably be uncomfortable for them. Stroman who used to be a reliever even said it was hard to adjust.

2. You are starting these prospects service time and wasting an option when you don't even know if they will perform.

3. Related to point #2, the upgrade you could expect even if all goes right is probably not worth very much.

4. There is no evidence to suggest these guys are even ready for the Big leagues. Sanchez has a terrible walk rate and the Ks are down. Norris has pitched 20 innings in AA.

 

I have no idea what the Org. would be thinking if this happened. Hopefully Bowden is just being an idiot becasue he heard it from a scout who had an opinion.

[Nox]

It did not work with Stroman in any sense. He came up said he was uncomfortable and had to go back down and get stretched out again.

 

This would be an awful decision because:

 

1. Norris and Sanchez are used to starting and coming out of the bullpen will probably be uncomfortable for them. Stroman who used to be a reliever even said it was hard to adjust.

2. You are starting these prospects service time and wasting an option when you don't even know if they will perform.

3. Related to point #2, the upgrade you could expect even if all goes right is probably not worth very much.

4. There is no evidence to suggest these guys are even ready for the Big leagues. Sanchez has a terrible walk rate and the Ks are down. Norris has pitched 20 innings in AA.

 

I have no idea what the Org. would be thinking if this happened. Hopefully Bowden is just being an idiot becasue he heard it from a scout who had an opinion.

 

This is a good post. Don't feel like I have much to add.

[G-Snarls]

I highly doubt this is true

 

He's probably reading in to things

 

Pat Hengten DID say in an interview this week that he thought Sanchez could come up and pitch from the bullpen now and he'd be OK with it. Thinks he's just about ready.

[Caper]

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/07/04/toronto-blue-jays-prospect-aaron-sanchez-ponders-a-perfect-storm/

[G-Snarls]

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/07/04/toronto-blue-jays-prospect-aaron-sanchez-ponders-a-perfect-storm/

 

f*** it

 

Trade for Prado, keep our top pitching prospects

 

Roll the dice and see what happens

[Caper]

f*** it

 

Trade for Prado, keep our top pitching prospects

 

Roll the dice and see what happens

 

 

It's funny reading about these pep talks from Eric Kratz. It's like it's the first time the pitchers have ever been told to throw strikes.

[G-Snarls]

I change my mind weekly about whether it's worth reaching for a 1/2 caliber starter or not

 

We probably can't afford the prospects for Price or the $ for Lee

 

Right now I feel like get Prado right away and say a prayer that the pitching staff holds on until someone among Morrow/Sanchez/Nolin are ready to contribute

[Daniel Labude]

f*** it

 

Trade for Prado, keep our top pitching prospects

 

Roll the dice and see what happens

 

Agreed

[TheHurl]

I2. You are starting these prospects service time and wasting an option when you don't even know if they will perform.

 

 

It only wastes an option if you send them back down. If they stay up all year nothing changes. Sanchez has to be added to the 40 man in October anyway. It's only Norris where this is an issue. They will come up after the super two deadline and the year of service time option too. So we'd still have 6 MLB years of them left.

[Abomination]

If it's true, what it tells me is that the Jays think they can get something worthwhile for some of our relievers at the deadline. Either that or they're trying to hype up those two prospects in preparation for a trade, but imo that would be a mistake.

[HERPDERP]

It's funny reading about these pep talks from Eric Kratz. It's like it's the first time the pitchers have ever been told to throw strikes.

 

Well it took Morrow years before he understood it's better to go 8 innings with 4 K's rather than 5 innings and 10 K's.

 

Unfortunately he went back to the old Morrow last and this season...

[BlueJaysGirl]

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Who does Colon take a spot from?

 

Hill will cost to much, AA never makes that trade for an older 2B on decline who has poor defence.

 

If we pick both these guys up we will lose some of our prospects that may pan out to be special.

[BlueJaysGirl]

Agreed

 

Yep, I agree here. Keep our prospects, get this guy, and let 'er buck. If the boys get hot in August, and that is a real possibility, we have interesting ball going into the playoffs and a real chance. I don't want to throw good money after bad.

[BlueJaysGirl]

I change my mind weekly about whether it's worth reaching for a 1/2 caliber starter or not

 

We probably can't afford the prospects for Price or the $ for Lee

 

Right now I feel like get Prado right away and say a prayer that the pitching staff holds on until someone among Morrow/Sanchez/Nolin are ready to contribute

 

I think something like this is our only play. You have to think we can get healthy again in a few weeks and start scoring more than one run a name. Our starting pitching has been really, really good. Guys like Colon won't really improve things.

[Angrioter]

Who does Colon take a spot from?

 

Hill will cost to much, AA never makes that trade for an older 2B on decline who has poor defence.

 

If we pick both these guys up we will lose some of our prospects that may pan out to be special.

 

Prado is younger, cheaper, versatile and handsome