Rage/Vent Thread

[connorp]

The term is "regression to the mean." We don't need to accommodate the morons who don't understand regression by coming up with a new term.

 

Kind of tit-for-tat but if you're moving towards your mean like the Jays are now, isn't that progressing to the mean:p

[G-Snarls]

Francisco over last month:

 

.175/.246/.413 28K in 63AB

 

Aw jeez

 

That's Arencibiaesque. from a guy who provides no defensive value.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

That's Arencibiaesque. from a guy who provides no defensive value.

 

JPA would kill to have the ability to put up that slash line lol

[G-Snarls]

I feel like a broken record but

 

f*** YOU ERVIN SANTANA AND f*** YOU FROM BOTH ENDS IAN KINSLER

 

We'd be in so much better shape had we even got one of them and imagine if both. godaammit foddammit. Make me so mad.

[G-Snarls]

To be fair AA probably waited to long to get a deal done with Santana but the Santos Kinsler trade would have helped us multiple ways and it's all Kinsler's fault. Edited June 20, 2014 by G-Snarls

[HASHTAGYOLOSWAG]

Everyone just enjoy that we are still 1.5 games in first. I'm going to be smiling until I feel the water. I'm sure the people on the Titanic were smiling before it sank.

[Cooler Heads Prevail]

It's ok for ppl to have other opinions bro.

 

I made my opinion known that I also don't like their chances. If I'm proven wrong though, I prefer that actually. I'd be happy. Also, I'm (and neither are many others) not the type that's going to track you down when/if they do choke and say "told you so homer"... we're just sharing opinions.

 

Any team in a 5 team division is usually going to fail. The issue is writing them off, which is a joke at this point. Any teams that can compete well enough over 70+ games is capable of competing well enough over 162 games. There is no guarantee they will, the majority of teams fail. I clearly stated in the past that I like the Jays chances to win this division more then any other team, but that the one scenario that is most worrisome involves losing many head to head with the Yankees and the Yankees augmenting their team at the deadline. This is a rationale way of addressing team chances. Simply writing a team off because it just feels right to do so is what I am addressing here. Or addressing reasons that don't hold much water over 40 years of baseball ( like a "hot month" being unsustainable being a reason you don't win a division; in reality, such a month often forecasts a winner ).

 

So if people want to put up rationale reasons why they may lose the season, and do something like pick another AL East team that will win, go for it. But this whole theory that the Jays will lose because they haven't won in 20 years and something about the jersey decrees this is a whole bunch of crap. Yet we see this kind of posting on here 20 times a day now.

[connorp]

"So if people want to put up rationale reasons why they may lose the season, and do something like pick another AL East team that will win, go for it. But this whole theory that the Jays will lose because they haven't won in 20 years and something about the jersey decrees this is a whole bunch of crap. Yet we see this kind of posting on here 20 times a day now. "

 

Agreed. My simple reasoning is I don't think many Jays are as good as their numbers were from season start till a couple weeks ago. We'll see. I also agree it's dumb to say they wont win because they haven't in 20 years but it's equally dumb to compare them to a team from 20 years ago as well.

[TDotttt2005]

Vent all you want, things could be worse. 6 Years ago today, the Jays fired Gibbons and brought back Cito.

[Cooler Heads Prevail]

Vent all you want, things could be worse. 6 Years ago today, the Jays fired Gibbons and brought back Cito.

 

Rays get shut out a lot and were a common preseason favorite to win the AL East. Their best option being proposed lately is to tank the team for years by trading their best players for prospects. Rays fans hang their hats on the idea that their management is so strong that they can fleece other GMs of their best prospects, despite being known for doing exactly that the last few years.

 

My opinion, being a Rays fan is a lot worse, lot of bad times ( think Cubs ) are coming down the pipe.

[G-Snarls]

What you say to me?

 

LOL

 

Phone autocorrect

 

Tried to type Kinsler's fault

[TDotttt2005]

Rays get shut out a lot and were a common preseason favorite to win the AL East. Their best option being proposed lately is to tank the team for years by trading their best players for prospects. Rays fans hang their hats on the idea that their management is so strong that they can fleece other GMs of their best prospects, despite being known for doing exactly that the last few years.

 

My opinion, being a Rays fan is a lot worse, lot of bad times ( think Cubs ) are coming down the pipe.

 

The Rays model is not really sustainable until they start drafting players who become star major leaguers. Theres only so much that you can trade your pre-arb or pre-FA guys, get 1-2 prospects for say a Shields, and hope to keep contending. Assuming the hit rate is 33% on these prospects, unless they can draft and develop their own players, like they did up until the late 2000's, they wont have enough talent to keep competing with the big spending teams.

[BigCecil]

Going to be contrarian on this thread as much as I want to rage and vent....and say that I am pleasantly surprised we can play this f***ing bad this long so often and STILL be in 1st in the AL East!

 

Im trying to stay optimistic that the hitting slump ends...every day.

 

I still think we need to double down on a real #1 SP to stick...but I think AA will get that done. It wont be cheap.

[Cooler Heads Prevail]

Going to be contrarian on this thread as much as I want to rage and vent....and say that I am pleasantly surprised we can play this f***ing bad this long so often and STILL be in 1st in the AL East!

 

Im trying to stay optimistic that the hitting slump ends...every day.

 

I still think we need to double down on a real #1 SP to stick...but I think AA will get that done. It wont be cheap.

 

I just came to the realization that the Jays have easier obstacles to overcome then the challenge of countering the anti-Jay group on

here. 20 years of losing has created a culture that expects nothing but failure and how dare anyone expect anything else but failure.

 

Might be time I stopped frequenting these baseball sites, I don't need months of this nonesense that will occur regardless of how the Jays

do. Nothing short of an AL championship series will change things here, and if they fade it will just turn into the 2013 s*** fest with previous

regulars like BTS and The Hurl posting how they knew all along they'd fail on top of the short term reactionary crew now.

 

I'll be back at some point when the Jays fate is more clear. I'm not sure there is anybody else on this site that gives them the best shot at the

AL East, so I've staked my claim at that forecast.

[Olerud363]

Everyone just enjoy that we are still 1.5 games in first. I'm going to be smiling until I feel the water. I'm sure the people on the Titanic were smiling before it sank.

 

This is the rage thread. Please bring that hippy crap to the calm thread. Thanks.

 

f*** YOU HIPPY!

[Olerud363]

Any team in a 5 team division is usually going to fail. The issue is writing them off, which is a joke at this point. Any teams that can compete well enough over 70+ games is capable of competing well enough over 162 games. There is no guarantee they will, the majority of teams fail. I clearly stated in the past that I like the Jays chances to win this division more then any other team, but that the one scenario that is most worrisome involves losing many head to head with the Yankees and the Yankees augmenting their team at the deadline. This is a rationale way of addressing team chances. Simply writing a team off because it just feels right to do so is what I am addressing here. Or addressing reasons that don't hold much water over 40 years of baseball ( like a "hot month" being unsustainable being a reason you don't win a division; in reality, such a month often forecasts a winner ).

 

So if people want to put up rationale reasons why they may lose the season, and do something like pick another AL East team that will win, go for it. But this whole theory that the Jays will lose because they haven't won in 20 years and something about the jersey decrees this is a whole bunch of crap. Yet we see this kind of posting on here 20 times a day now.

 

CPH

 

1. We have no ace.

2. We have no depth.

3. The team is old.

4. The team might be at it's payroll limit so hard to make deadline trades.

5. The farm sucks in terms of young position players (no Puig or even Boegarts to help with playoff push).

6. The farm sucks so hard to make deadline trades.

 

Most people see the Jays as unable to overcome these factors. Thus they will end up winning low to mid 80s and be passed by teams that have better young players or more resources to add deadline pieces.

[Olerud363]

I just came to the realization that the Jays have easier obstacles to overcome then the challenge of countering the anti-Jay group on

here. 20 years of losing has created a culture that expects nothing but failure and how dare anyone expect anything else but failure.

 

Might be time I stopped frequenting these baseball sites, I don't need months of this nonesense that will occur regardless of how the Jays

do. Nothing short of an AL championship series will change things here, and if they fade it will just turn into the 2013 s*** fest with previous

regulars like BTS and The Hurl posting how they knew all along they'd fail on top of the short term reactionary crew now.

 

I'll be back at some point when the Jays fate is more clear. I'm not sure there is anybody else on this site that gives them the best shot at the

AL East, so I've staked my claim at that forecast.

 

Counterpoint:

 

Hutch and Stroman are young.

Lawrie is young and could have a huge second half if healthy.

EE, Bautista and even Francisco will start hitting bombs again.

Rasmus if relatively young and playing for a contract.

Melky is playing well and looks healthy.

Reyes hasn't really been Reyes yet.

Dickey might still go on a roll.

For gods sake Happ might be better then we think.

 

Maybe Gibby is savy enough to play the fat catcher less and between the "pitch framing guy" and the "knuckle catcher guy who doesn't strikeout" and the fat guy the catching position is better in the second half.

 

You could be right in the end.

[BigCecil]

I just came to the realization that the Jays have easier obstacles to overcome then the challenge of countering the anti-Jay group on

here. 20 years of losing has created a culture that expects nothing but failure and how dare anyone expect anything else but failure.

 

Might be time I stopped frequenting these baseball sites, I don't need months of this nonesense that will occur regardless of how the Jays

do. Nothing short of an AL championship series will change things here, and if they fade it will just turn into the 2013 s*** fest with previous

regulars like BTS and The Hurl posting how they knew all along they'd fail on top of the short term reactionary crew now.

 

I'll be back at some point when the Jays fate is more clear. I'm not sure there is anybody else on this site that gives them the best shot at the

AL East, so I've staked my claim at that forecast.

 

I think we have the best shot at the AL East with our O and D - when the market is available Id like to add a 1 or 2 starter without getting raped too badly, but Im prepared for the consequences of the price longer term. We need a winner and this year is our shot.

[G-Snarls]

So...

 

Hendriks is pretty bad

[wilko]

Why is there two f***ing threads about anger? f***ing make up your mind. Close a f***ing thread mods. f***.

[wilko]

Wilko, I know you may be having trouble following threads on this internet thing. I'm gonna guide you through this. Hold on to my arm. Are you there? K..

here we have stuff. I don't know any other way to announce it, but we have stuff. k?

Come here for a sec, now we have Ballgames that hold a meaning to you. hold on.. ho.. hoo.. wow.. that was an awesome game. I hope you caught that one!!

 

You're currently in a thread called Rage/Vent! I know, man. Wilko in a rage forum?

That's like using plastic!!!! but it means a lot more then that, right?

 

http://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/6108double_fuckoff_20080409101811gif1.gif

[wilko]

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-31458-Jim-Carrey-disgust-puke-gif-Du-5Lr8.gif

[Olerud363]

Why is there two f***ing threads about anger? f***ing make up your mind. Close a f***ing thread mods. f***.

 

I didn't see any other threads about anger?? But maybe it is gone allready.

 

Why be angry?? Greatest comeback in living memory*. All is well. I love you guys.... OK enough Hippy Crap this is the rage thread.

 

f***. THEY ARE JUST TOYING WITH US. YANKEES WALKED OFF ANYWAY SO WE DIDN'T EVEN GAIN A GAME. AND I f***ING WENT TO BED SO I MISSED THE ONLY BRIGHT MOMENT IN THIS DISMALL f***ING WASTED SEASON. f*** ALL OF YOU HAPPY *******S!

 

OK. That's better.

 

* the old road apples will tell you the greatest comeback was the Whitt Grand Slam in Fenway in 89. Who the hell is old enough to remember that s***?

[Olerud363]

I didn't see any other threads about anger?? But maybe it is gone allready.

 

Why be angry?? Greatest comeback in living memory*. All is well. I love you guys.... OK enough Hippy Crap this is the rage thread.

 

f***. THEY ARE JUST TOYING WITH US. YANKEES WALKED OFF ANYWAY SO WE DIDN'T EVEN GAIN A GAME. AND I f***ING WENT TO BED SO I MISSED THE ONLY BRIGHT MOMENT IN THIS DISMALL f***ING WASTED SEASON. f*** ALL OF YOU HAPPY *******S!

 

OK. That's better.

 

* the old road apples will tell you the greatest comeback was the Whitt Grand Slam in Fenway in 89. Who the hell is old enough to remember that s***?

 

s***. I WAS RIGHT. THEY WERE JUST f***ING TOYING WITH US. GODAMNIT!!!

 

I don't know what to say. Bautista and Lawrie injured?? I'm not sure how long they will be out for but godamnit this is what happens when you build a team around injury prone guys. Bautista, Colby, Rasmus, Lawrie Reyes. They average 100 games. They will probably average 100 games this year.

 

I f***ing hate AA and Beeston so much. Beeston more. These guys just don't know how to think. They are everything that is wrong with our society.

 

Reyes - awkward slide dislocated ankle - Beeston/AA" That won't happen again"

Lawrie - dives into dugout - Beeston/AA "That won't happen again"

Drabek - Tommy John - Beeston/AA "That won't happen again' (actually it did).

Bautista busts wrist - Beeston/AA That won't happen again'

Bautista hurts hip - Beeston/AA That won't happen again

Melky tumour - Beeston/.AA That won't happen again

 

And you know what other then Drabek getting another Tommy John, they are right. None of it happened again. BUT SOMETHING ELSE DID!!!!!

 

In the world of suits and haircuts and handshakes Beeston and AA are "right" in a weird way. But in the real world they are wrong.

 

Anyway I'm ranting, but I'm keeping it in the rage thread.

 

And why rant when in first?? Uhhh... losing a 5.5 game lead and key players injured.

 

It's an old, flawed team made by stupid, stupid men.

 

p.s. I still hope they ride it out, get lucky and win. I never root against the team.

[labadee]

ROAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR! alright that's enough from me, back to cheering on the jays. go get 'em tonight!

[G-Snarls]

Why is Brett Lawrie not better at avoiding getting hit by pitches on the hands?!?!?!?! What the f***. You're one of the most athletic players in baseball with incredible reflexes in the field. Learn to turn away and protect your goddamn hands! Stop getting hurt!!

[Olerud363]

f***.

 

AA/BEESTON March 2015 - (poor Gibby allready sacraficed)

 

"We were fine until Brett Lawrie and Bautista got injured on the same day. That was unfortunate. No team can lose 2 great players on the same day. That chances of that happening are so small as to be insignificant. We believe in the process. We believe in the scouts. We believe in ourselves. We believe in the Blue Jay way. We're positive people. The Beest is a positive guy. We've had great success. We're successful. We're winners. And we'll win. If not this year then next year. We're not going to let a 1 in 10000 fluke event stop us. 2 guys injured on the same day?? Bad luck. We'll be back."

 

YOU f***ING MORONS!!! BUT YOU KNOW WHAT! IT'S OUR FAULT. WE TAKE THIS s*** YEAR AFTER. STOETEN, WILNER, BEESTON, AA, THEY'RE PRACTICALLY THE BILDERBURG GROUP. GODAMNIT I'M GOING NUTS HERE I REALLY AM.

 

OK. Rant over. I think. If guys average 115 games a year that's what they'll play next year. Our front office doesn't understand that so they should resign before 9:00 a.m. this morning and apologize to us for making such a mess.

[Olerud363]

 

OK. Next Blue Jay President interview question.

 

Billy Bookie a low level employee at Wendy's restaurant has the following monthy attendance record.

 

April 11/20 days present for work

May 14/21 days present for work

June 17/20 days present for work

July 7/22 days present for work

 

Many unfortunate things have happened to Billy. In April He got bit by a dog one day. In May his girlfriend left him for his best friend. In June his attendance was good but his favourite baseball team collapsed making him very depressed so he missed 3 days. In July he got in a car accident. It was not serious but he had a neck injury that took longer then expected to heal.

 

 

Billy seems to be recovered from his car accident and finished July with a strong week. What is Billy's expected attendance in August?

 

a) about 60%. Simply the average of the other months.

90% as all the happenings were very rare and different and those kind of things could not possibly be expected to happen again.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

Another winnable game being blown as a direct result of AA's panic trades as well as his ridiculous decision to bring back Gibbons. Will he finally be fired when this collapse has us out of the playoffs?

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Reyes is 100% done as a shortstop.

 

0 range and and absolutely horrendous arm. He needs to be moved to 2nd TOMORROW.