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I wouldn't look forward to getting Carey lol.

 

Yeah probably wouldn't get a Carey Price lol, though I'd be willing to move Toews in the offseason for a goalie who could provide Top 25-30 value.

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Yeah probably wouldn't get a Carey Price lol, though I'd be willing to move Toews in the offseason for a goalie who could provide Top 25-30 value.

 

If you want a top level goalie, you're probably going to have to overpay significantly (to the point of absurdity). Even suggesting equal rank probably causes the other party to hang up the phone.

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If you want a top level goalie, you're probably going to have to overpay significantly (to the point of absurdity). Even suggesting equal rank probably causes the other party to hang up the phone.

 

He had a good goalie in Bernier, traded him straight up for O'Reilly, I think...*smh*... I don't get it?

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He had a good goalie in Bernier, traded him straight up for O'Reilly, I think...*smh*... I don't get it?

 

Bernier isn't anything special.

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If you want a top level goalie, you're probably going to have to overpay significantly (to the point of absurdity). Even suggesting equal rank probably causes the other party to hang up the phone.

 

Yup. No chance I entertain the idea of moving Lundqvist/Howard for a player valued at around the same range. Too difficult to replace.

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Yup. No chance I entertain the idea of moving Lundqvist/Howard for a player valued at around the same range. Too difficult to replace.

 

My biggest undoing this season was not preparing to take a top shelf goaltender in the early rounds. I probably should have taken a goaltender in the 4th or 5th round as opposed to taking Pietrangelo or something.

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If you want a top level goalie, you're probably going to have to overpay significantly (to the point of absurdity). Even suggesting equal rank probably causes the other party to hang up the phone.

 

True, though not ridiculously overpaying for a goalie if I'm dealing players like Toews.

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My biggest undoing this season was not preparing to take a top shelf goaltender in the early rounds. I probably should have taken a goaltender in the 4th or 5th round as opposed to taking Pietrangelo or something.

 

I traded Craig Anderson for Nichushkin in September. As much as I really really like Nichushkin (who's been out all year), I probably could have gotten a hell of a lot more now.

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True, though not ridiculously overpaying for a goalie if I'm dealing players like Toews.

 

It would just be tough to find a fit. You'll need a team with two legit #1s, which is what, 2-3 teams? Then one of those 2-3 teams needs to be A) motivated to add a top forward, and B) of the belief that the best way to accomplish A) is by moving a goalie.

 

I think the only way to add goaltending without a massive, massive overpayment is going to be acquiring them as prospects backups.

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I traded Craig Anderson for Nichushkin in September. As much as I really really like Nichushkin (who's been out all year), I probably could have gotten a hell of a lot more now.

 

Yeah. At the time I thought it was OK. Now, that trade looks disastrous. Nichushkin should be the 2nd or 3rd piece in a deal for a starter.

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It would just be tough to find a fit. You'll need a team with two legit #1s, which is what, 2-3 teams? Then one of those 2-3 teams needs to be A) motivated to add a top forward, and B) of the belief that the best way to accomplish A) is by moving a goalie.

 

I think the only way to add goaltending without a massive, massive overpayment is going to be acquiring them as prospects backups.

 

Yeah I understand. I doubt you move Lundqvist and teams move a Carey Price etc. Need to be a perfect match. I wasn't going to win anything with Bernier as my No. 1 goaltender anyways, so trading him for ROR doesn't crush me by any means. I love ROR and I believe he can be a top-6 forward.

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Remember when a bunch of people made fun of King for drafting 20 goalies..

 

I drafted and traded for a s*** ton of goalies, saw this issue from a mile away.

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In this league? f***ing right he is, believe me, you've been bent over, again.

 

I've been bent over again?

 

Bernier isn't anything special to begin with. I actually prefer Reimer to Bernier in my opinion. He's quite overrated. But yeah I forgot, this league overvalues goalies! Even mediocre ones!

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I've been bent over again?

 

Bernier isn't anything special to begin with. I actually prefer Reimer to Bernier in my opinion. He's quite overrated. But yeah I forgot, this league overvalues goalies! Even mediocre ones!

 

Bernier (and Reimer) on a better team is a pretty decent goaltender.

Posted
I've been bent over again?

 

Bernier isn't anything special to begin with. I actually prefer Reimer to Bernier in my opinion. He's quite overrated. But yeah I forgot, this league overvalues goalies! Even mediocre ones!

 

It's not really overvaluing goalies, is that most of us undervalued them.

Posted
I have Bob and Niemi, need a forward, and I'm still not interested in meeting the asking price. Really not a fit.
Posted
In this league? f***ing right he is, believe me, you've been bent over, again.

 

 

I needed a young #1 goaltender, so this move made sense for me. Didn't want to move ROR, but I didn't want to go into next season with more uncertainty with regards to my goaltending situation.

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I've been bent over again? (Yes)

 

Bernier isn't anything special to begin with.(Wrong) I actually prefer Reimer to Bernier in my opinion.(Quite possible) He's quite overrated.(Wrong) But yeah I forgot, this league overvalues goalies! Even mediocre ones!

 

Oh my Silvio, it isn't hard to figure out, 20 teams, 30 #1 jobs, 60 tenders total???

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I needed a young #1 goaltender, so this move made sense for me. Didn't want to move ROR, but I didn't want to go into next season with more uncertainty with regards to my goaltending situation.

 

It was an excellent move, kudos!

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Oh my Silvio, it isn't hard to figure out, 20 teams, 30 #1 jobs, 60 tenders total???

 

Thanks for the math lesson.

 

Was Bernier truly a No. 1 goalie? Would have I ever won anything with him? Don't think so.

Posted
It was an excellent move, kudos!

 

You're just getting your panties all tied up in knots because I didn't trade you the Sedin's. So every move I make now is me getting bent over?! Stop it.

Posted
Thanks for the math lesson.

 

Was Bernier truly a No. 1 goalie? Would have I ever won anything with him? Don't think so.

 

The issue is that you'll probably have trouble getting a better one. Even to replace Bernier with a comparable goalie will probably cost you twice what you paid, unless it's a guy in his late 30's. Basically, no one is selling, and there's probably 10-15 managers who are all trying to buy :)

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I needed a young #1 goaltender, so this move made sense for me. Didn't want to move ROR, but I didn't want to go into next season with more uncertainty with regards to my goaltending situation.

 

We both were a match. Other teams asked me about Bernier though I was offered crap. I'm a huge ROR fan, and I think this deal worked out well for both clubs. I wasn't going to win with Bernier as my No. 1 goaltender period, so I'm sure he holds more value as a No. 2 to another team with another viable No. 1 goalie.

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The issue is that you'll probably have trouble getting a better one. Even to replace Bernier with a comparable goalie will probably cost you twice what you paid, unless it's a guy in his late 30's. Basically, no one is selling, and there's probably 10-15 managers who are all trying to buy :)

 

Markets change, new goalies always come along and find their way into starting jobs.

Posted
Can you two come to a truce? This is fantasy hockey where the grand prize is glory, not Vegas where you get actual money.
Posted
You're just getting your panties all tied up in knots because I didn't trade you the Sedin's. So every move I make now is me getting bent over?! Stop it.

 

Not at all, sure I didn't like how you handled it. That's done. There's two moves you were T'raped and I'm not the only one saying so? No.

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