Top 5 Organizations in baseball.

[Captain Adama]

http://www.fangraphs.com/community/top-five-organizations/

 

Pretty decent list, but I would put the Rays before the Red Sox and swap the Giants out for the Rangers, or Braves.

[Terminator]

http://www.fangraphs.com/community/top-five-organizations/

 

Pretty decent list, but I would put the Rays before the Red Sox and swap the Giants out for the Rangers, or Braves.

 

I believe that's just a post made by a fangraphs poster and not an actual writer.

[GD]

I believe that's just a post made by a fangraphs poster and not an actual writer.

 

I enjoy the community posts at least as much as the normal posts, honestly.

[Dick_Pole]

Ok, this list is stupid and not very well written and the title is misleading. There's a lot, and I mean A LOT of panning and drooling over the absolute stunning brilliance of the TB Rays on this board and everywhere else where baseball nerds collide to talk baseball.

 

They have won ZERO World Series. NONE. Under what metric can they be considered the third best organization in baseball?

 

If you want to make a list that puts TB near the top, you call it "The top 5 best-run organizations in baseball over the last 10 years" or something like that.

 

A list like this that excludes the Yankees is just stupid. Dodgers and Braves as well. You know, teams that have had some recent success, a strong and profitable brand and a history of great baseball tradition.

Edited February 17, 2014 by Dick_Pole

[TheHurl]

http://www.fangraphs.com/community/top-five-organizations/

 

Pretty decent list, but I would put the Rays before the Red Sox and swap the Giants out for the Rangers, or Braves.

 

"he teams and order were determined by the organization’s overall success and how economically they got there."

 

Depends on your definition of economics. Rays have less to work with but I'm pretty their bottom line still isn't great in comparison to the Sox. Overall I thought it was a really poorly written.

[Dick_Pole]

Top Five Organizations

by baseballstooge

 

I am a Senior in High School and have my own baseball blog

 

Ok, that explains a lot about the quality of this person's post. Gotta love the sheep who bleat what they think will get them some fandom points in the online world. Heck, if he was old enough to remember the Expos they'd be his #1 pick by far! All they did was get screwed by their pathetic owner and get relocated but otherwise they're like the Rays on steriods.

[Captain Adama]

Ok, this list is stupid and not very well written and the title is misleading. There's a lot, and I mean A LOT of panning and drooling over the absolute stunning brilliance of the TB Rays on this board and everywhere else where baseball nerds collide to talk baseball.

They have won ZERO World Series. NONE. Under what metric can they be considered the third best organization in baseball?

 

If you want to make a list that puts TB near the top, you call it "The top 5 best-run organizations in baseball over the last 10 years" or something like that.

 

A list like this that excludes the Yankees is just stupid. Dodgers and Braves as well. You know, teams that have had some recent success, a strong brand and a history of great baseball tradition.

 

Because they can make the playoffs consistently. What more can you expect from that. I thought it was well known that the best teams don't always win the World Series FFS.

 

Stop getting so damn anal over how the list is named. I'd bet you probably knew what the list was gonna be about anyway.

[Sparda]

They have won ZERO World Series. NONE. Under what metric can they be considered the third best organization in baseball?

 

They've made the playoffs 4 out of the last 6 seasons with a laughable payroll in baseball's toughest division?

[dineke]

Site gave me a virus...

[GD]

Site gave me a virus...

 

It's just CommunityGraphs, I'm on there like every other day. Couldn't have been that.

[TheHurl]

Top Five Organizations

by baseballstooge

 

I am a Senior in High School and have my own baseball blog

 

Ok, that explains a lot about the quality of this person's post. Gotta love the sheep who bleat what they think will get them some fandom points in the online world. Heck, if he was old enough to remember the Expos they'd be his #1 pick by far! All they did was get screwed by their pathetic owner and get relocated but otherwise they're like the Rays on steriods.

 

no the Expos were a horribly run franchise from the top to the bottom.

[Dick_Pole]

Because they can make the playoffs consistently. What more can you expect from that. I thought it was well known that the best teams don't always win the World Series FFS.

 

Stop getting so damn anal over how the list is named. I'd bet you probably knew what the list was gonna be about anyway.

 

I guess you wrote this (or maybe a friend)? Only someone who personally wrote it would get so upset over someone criticizing "someone else's" (aka their own) work.

 

Alright I'm not going to badmouth the list anymore just end with this...there's a lot more to judging the "best organization" than if the organization just happens to have a few smart people running the player roster side of it. I'm sure there's lots of smart people doing good things in BlackBerry's software division. Would anyone put them on a top list of tech companies? No, because of their blatant weaknesses elsewhere, poor profitability, declining brand name and low stock price.

[Dick_Pole]

no the Expos were a horribly run franchise from the top to the bottom.

 

But they made some awesome trades!

 

"Despite little success in recent drafts, the Rays have acquired young, controllable talent by trading veteran players, who were nearing Free Agency. The two best examples of this strategy are when the Rays traded Matt Garza to the Cubs and landed Chris Archer, among others, and when the Rays traded James Shields for Wil Myers and Jake Odorizzi."

 

Can put any number of Expos trades in there, excluding Bartolo Colon and Mark Langston.

[TheHurl]

But they made some awesome trades!

 

"Despite little success in recent drafts, the Rays have acquired young, controllable talent by trading veteran players, who were nearing Free Agency. The two best examples of this strategy are when the Rays traded Matt Garza to the Cubs and landed Chris Archer, among others, and when the Rays traded James Shields for Wil Myers and Jake Odorizzi."

 

Can put any number of Expos trades in there, excluding Bartolo Colon and Mark Langston.

 

Expos made trades based on finances first...they got lucky in trading Deshields for Pedro. Rays make baseball moves with keeping their financial restraints in mind. Name another great trade the Expos made in the late 80's or early 90's?

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

Ok, this list is stupid and not very well written and the title is misleading. There's a lot, and I mean A LOT of panning and drooling over the absolute stunning brilliance of the TB Rays on this board and everywhere else where baseball nerds collide to talk baseball.

 

They have won ZERO World Series. NONE. Under what metric can they be considered the third best organization in baseball?

 

Like the A's, the Rays are stuck in a dump of a stadium with a market that can't support the team, and they don't have the resources to have a huge payroll, yet they're still competitive every year. Friedman is arguably the best GM in the league. When the Rays move to Montreal and finally have some money to spend, that's when the championships will come rolling on in.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

They have a sufficient market to support a team, they've just completely failed to mobilize it. Their baseball operations model has worked. Their business model has not.

Tampa is never going to be a good baseball market for the simple reason that there are too many transplants down there from Boston and New York who aren't giving up on the Red Sox, Yankees, or Mets for the Rays.

 

And relocating to Montreal would be a horrendous decision, though judging by your signature and initial commmentary, I couldn't convince you of that if every politician, bureaucrat and citizen within 200 miles signed a petition to prevent MLB from returning to the city.

Montreal will be a kickass market if actually given a fair chance this time around.

[KingKat]

Expos made trades based on finances first...they got lucky in trading Deshields for Pedro. Rays make baseball moves with keeping their financial restraints in mind. Name another great trade the Expos made in the late 80's or early 90's?

 

I just looked up the trading record for a bunch of Expos GMs and the best I could find is this from Dombrowski's record:

 

 

• August 8, 1990 traded Zane Smith to the Pittsburgh Pirates for Moises Alou, Willie Greene and Scott Ruskin
  

[TheHurl]

I just looked up the trading record for a bunch of Expos GMs and the best I could find is this from Dombrowski's record:

 

 

• August 8, 1990 traded Zane Smith to the Pittsburgh Pirates for Moises Alou, Willie Greene and Scott Ruskin
  

 

i had forgot about that one. For some reason he was a PTBNL in that deal. Zane Smith kicked ass for the Pirates though