Proposed trade with the Phils

[Abomination]

I believe he meant under 4.

 

Unless I'm reading it wrong, it doesn't fit with the rest of his statement. I think his phone is screwing up the columns on Fangraphs.

 

edited to say: Never mind, I think I see what he's saying now. Very confusing, but the misunderstanding was on my end.

[G-Snarls]

IMO the error bars on Rasmus' projection are much, much bigger than those for Lee's. I'd be shocked if Lee puts up 1-2 WAR next year and not even remotely surprised id Rasmus does.

 

YTeah, given Colby's inconsistency you can't help but be afraid he could have a crap season at any time

 

Lee has been as steady as it gets

[Abomination]

IMO the error bars on Rasmus' projection are much, much bigger than those for Lee's. I'd be shocked if Lee puts up 1-2 WAR next year and not even remotely surprised id Rasmus does.

 

Yeah, I agree. I really am in favor of trading Rasmus this off-season.

[Cooler Heads Prevail]

YTeah, given Colby's inconsistency you can't help but be afraid he could have a crap season at any time

 

Lee has been as steady as it gets

 

I'm not liking Colby as a long term expensive piece on this team so I'd look to move him. If it means we keep Bautista on his nice contract

even better. Moving JPA and Colby off the team might make us less of a swing for the fences, high strikeout team in some games. Nothing

against Colby he has value but the contract issue and the fact we might have to pony up for pitching is a factor.

 

Lee is one of the few veteran gambles we could acquire with the kind of ceiling that might make a difference.

[DuckDuckGose]

No pitcher should really be projected for over 175 IP, you can't expect that many innings.

 

He's never been healthy and not thrown +200 IP. I understand what you're saying JFaS but if Lee is healthy he'll be around 220IP again.

[DuckDuckGose]

If you think Lee hasn't had 4 WAR in a season since 2006, either Fangraphs isn't working well on your phone or you're getting the xFIP column confused with the WAR column.

 

I said healthy season. He was hurt in '07 and put up 2.7 or something in '06.

 

Nvm we were saying the same thing.

[DuckDuckGose]

He's saying that you don't project him to start 33 games.

 

I get the concept. FWIW Steamer is also projecting Buehrle at 192IP as well.

[connorp]

Pretty much. I know you're being sarcastic, but it's true.

 

This ties into my yesterday rant but seriously..I think if all the books in Las Vegas decided they would hire some of best math minds around the world to look at baseball so they can generate projections and establish O/U for things like WAR..I bet you would see a far superior machine as the comp process would be much more precise based on the individuals. It would not be lazy system that doesnt differentiate apples from oranges.

[Frenchsoup]

Trade doesn't look to bad today eh boys?

[Nox]

"If he stays healthy" is not really a useful qualifier when determining pitcher value going forward.

[G-Snarls]

Trade doesn't look to bad today eh boys?

 

LOL no. Don't know what they should do at this point. Feels pretty hopeless.