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Barry Enright signs with the Phillies

 

Estas locos o robas de la hierba que tu padre tiene debajo de la cama?

 

Who's Bartolo Enright?

AA, do something!!

Posted
Lol. "Who is this guy??? AA, other teams are picking up irrelevant scrubs, why aren't you signing them???"

 

Maybe..............8-man bullpen built with out of options guys?

Posted
No, those teams actually just have better players than most other teams.

 

 

don't you know that players who play good d and have light bats are just automatically "scrappers".. and so therefore they win with heart and teamwork:)

Posted
Most teams have these types of players. The Rays and A's succeed because the players buy into a team game and do whatever it takes to win games. This has more to do with the manager/coaching staff/GM getting the right players in place and actually playing to there strengths and sticking with them.

 

In the case of the Jays AA has assembled a bunch of head cases that are more interested in maximizing their individual value than winning ball games. A recipe for disaster imo.

 

Give them the Jays rotation and its all over

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Somewhat related: the Rays' rotation is actually 10th in baseball in fWAR since the start of 2008, and that's with a huge boost from Jose Molina. They actually only average 1.2 fWAR per season more than Toronto over that time. I feel like people give too much credit to their young starters when talking about the Rays model.

 

Where do they sit with pitching in general

 

also I think they broke out big in 08' so that should be part of the sample..lol

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Posted
Most teams have these types of players. The Rays and A's succeed because the players buy into a team game and do whatever it takes to win games. This has more to do with the manager/coaching staff/GM getting the right players in place and actually playing to there strengths and sticking with them.

 

In the case of the Jays AA has assembled a bunch of head cases that are more interested in maximizing their individual value than winning ball games. A recipe for disaster imo.

 

Complete BS. This has to do with selecting the right players, not buy in. Stop being a f***ing idiot.

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12th in fWAR, 5th in ERA. Defense is a huge part of their success. And again, that's with a significant Molina bonus. Their pitching staffs have hardly been world-beaters since they started winning.

 

I'm not saying defense isn't a big part, it obviously supplements the pitching.. but come on.. 5th in ERA means 1st or 2nd in the AL as I assume most of the teams ahead of them were NL teams.. just say then win with pitching and defense..

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Somewhat related: the Rays' rotation is actually 10th in baseball in fWAR since the start of 2008, and that's with a huge boost from Jose Molina. They actually only average 1.2 fWAR per season more than Toronto over that time. I feel like people give too much credit to their young starters when talking about the Rays model.

 

fWAR since '08 (not just for the Rays);

 

Price - 18.8

Shields - 22

Garza - 15.9

EJax - 14.2

 

then Moore, Cobb, Archer, Odorizzi.

 

That's a butt load of talent to come through a org in 6 seasons.

 

It's a testament to the consistent top end talent in their rotation and ability to develop young pitchers more so than an accurate portrayal of their year-to-year rotation depth. This season's Ray's staff looks dynamite though IMO.

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I'm not saying defense isn't a big part, it obviously supplements the pitching.. but come on.. 5th in ERA means 1st or 2nd in the AL as I assume most of the teams ahead of them were NL teams.. just say then win with pitching and defense..

 

The fact that they rank that high in ERA while only 12th in WAR suggests that they are getting a huge boost from the defense. That was his whole point.

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The A's, easily. they're, for the most part, a team made up of bad players who have specific strengths,and a manager that knows how to utilize them.

 

Look at the players in which both teams gave 100 PAs or more and rethink that statement;

 

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[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].283[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].408[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].300[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]85[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-0.3[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-3.0[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]-4.9[/TD]

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[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]15[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Josh Thole[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]45[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]135[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]11[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]8[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]0[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]8.9 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]18.5 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].067[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].213[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].175[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].256[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].242[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].231[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]37[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-1.2[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-10.8[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]2.1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]-0.5[/TD]

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[TR=class: rgAltRow]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]16[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Moises Sierra[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]35[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]122[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]11[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]13[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]11.5 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]23.8 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].168[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].385[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].290[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].369[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].458[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].359[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]125[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-1.8[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]1.7[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]-3.1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]0.3[/TD]

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[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]17[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Ryan Goins[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]34[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]121[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]2[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]11[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]8[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]0[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]1.7 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]23.1 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].092[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].315[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].252[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].264[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].345[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].267[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]62[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-2.1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-7.3[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]6.5[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]0.4[/TD]

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[TR=class: rgAltRow]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]18[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Kevin Pillar[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]36[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]110[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]3[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]11[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]13[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]0[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]3.6 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]26.4 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].127[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].257[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].206[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].250[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].333[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].259[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]57[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-0.1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-5.5[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]1.8[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]0.0[/TD]

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[TH=class: rgHeader rgSorted, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]PA[/TH]

[TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]HR[/TH]

[TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]R[/TH]

[TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]RBI[/TH]

[TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]SB[/TH]

[TH=class: grid_line_breakh rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]BB%[/TH]

[TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]K%[/TH]

[TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]ISO[/TH]

[TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]BABIP[/TH]

[TH=class: grid_line_breakh rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]AVG[/TH]

[TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]OBP[/TH]

[TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]SLG[/TH]

[TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]wOBA[/TH]

[TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]wRC+[/TH]

[TH=class: grid_line_breakh rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]BsR[/TH]

[TH=class: grid_line_breakh rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]Off[/TH]

[TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]Def[/TH]

[TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]WAR[/TH]

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[TR=class: rgRow]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Josh Donaldson[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]158[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]668[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]24[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]89[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]93[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]5[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]11.4 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]16.5 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].199[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].333[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].301[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].384[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].499[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].384[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]148[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]1.1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]37.3[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]12.1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]7.7[/TD]

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[TR=class: rgAltRow]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]2[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Jed Lowrie[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]154[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]662[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]15[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]80[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]75[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]7.6 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]13.7 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].156[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].319[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].290[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].344[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].446[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].345[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]121[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-1.2[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]14.3[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]-3.3[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]3.6[/TD]

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[TR=class: rgRow]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]3[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Coco Crisp[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]131[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]584[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]22[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]93[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]66[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]21[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]10.4 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]11.1 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].183[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].258[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].261[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].335[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].444[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].339[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]117[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]6.1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]17.2[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]-0.5[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]3.9[/TD]

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[TR=class: rgAltRow]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]4[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Yoenis Cespedes[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]135[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]574[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]26[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]74[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]80[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]7[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]6.4 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]23.9 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].202[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].274[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].240[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].294[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].442[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].318[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]102[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]0.6[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]2.0[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]-0.1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]2.3[/TD]

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[TR=class: rgRow]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]5[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Brandon Moss[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]145[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]505[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]30[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]73[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]87[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]4[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]9.9 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]27.7 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].267[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].301[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].256[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].337[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].522[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].369[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]137[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-2.7[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]18.9[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]-18.0[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]1.9[/TD]

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[TR=class: rgAltRow]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]6[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Josh Reddick[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]114[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]441[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]12[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]54[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]56[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]9[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]10.4 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]19.5 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].153[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].255[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].226[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].307[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].379[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].303[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]92[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]3.4[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-0.7[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]11.3[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]2.7[/TD]

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[TR=class: rgRow]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]7[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Eric Sogard[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]130[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]410[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]2[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]45[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]35[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]10[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]6.6 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]12.4 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].098[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].301[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].266[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].322[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].364[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].303[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]92[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-0.2[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-4.1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]2.8[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]1.3[/TD]

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[TR=class: rgAltRow]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]8[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Seth Smith[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]117[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]410[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]8[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]49[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]40[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]0[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]9.5 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]22.9 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].139[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].320[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].253[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].329[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].391[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].318[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]102[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]1.7[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]2.5[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]-5.9[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]1.1[/TD]

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[TR=class: rgRow]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]9[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Chris Young[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]107[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]375[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]12[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]46[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]40[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]10[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]9.6 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]24.8 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].179[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].237[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].200[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].280[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].379[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].289[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]82[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]1.1[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-6.7[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]-1.5[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]0.5[/TD]

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[TR=class: rgAltRow]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]10[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Derek Norris[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]98[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]308[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]9[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]41[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]30[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]5[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]12.0 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]23.1 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].163[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].301[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].246[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].345[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].409[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].335[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]114[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]0.7[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]5.5[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]3.2[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]2.0[/TD]

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[TR=class: rgRow]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]11[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]John Jaso[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]70[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]249[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]3[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]31[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]21[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]2[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]15.3 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]18.1 %[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].101[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].331[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right].271[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].387[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].372[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].345[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]121[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]-0.4[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]5.6[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]-2.8[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]1.2[/TD]

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[TR=class: rgAltRow]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]12[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular]Nate Freiman[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]80[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]208[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]4[/TD]

[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]10[/TD]

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[TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]0[/TD]

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FFS the Jays gave 1838 PA's to negative WAR players vs the A's 154 PAs.

Posted
For sure they've had some very talented arms. I just think that if you threw their starting pitchers over the last six years on almost any other team in the league they'd be a bit above average or something. Everyone credits their starting pitching with their success, when really they have had the among the best (the best?) position players in baseball for the last six years, and those players have actually made the starters look better than they were/are.

 

Two perennial MVP candidates, in Zobrist and Longo, who are both Top 10 in WAR over that span. Definitely has a lot to do with it.

Community Moderator
Posted
f*** you, you senile old dipshit.

 

I'll let this slide since I called you a f***ing idiot, but don't push me.

Posted
The fact that they rank that high in ERA while only 12th in WAR suggests that they are getting a huge boost from the defense. That was his whole point.

 

Yeah right after I responded I understood what he was saying.. missed the point originally

Posted

 

FFS the Jays gave 1838 PA's to negative WAR players vs the A's 154 PAs.

 

JPA 3.6 % BB rate is both hilarious and infuriating.

Posted
Ya, about 2000 AB's worth.

 

Sogard is the only starter in that group. You listed their two backup catchers, 4th/5th OFer, AAA utility infielder and a bench bat.

Posted
No, those teams actually just have better players than most other teams.

 

They're not more talented (Lawrie-Reyes>> Donaldson-Lowrie) but more productive.

Posted
They're not more talented (Lawrie-Reyes>> Donaldson-Lowrie) but more productive.

 

BTS' point wasn't that the A's have more top end players than the Jays. He was saying that the Jays destined themselves for mediocrity based on the number of PA's they gave to replacement, or sub-replacement, level players.

Posted

Totally irrelevant to anything but I've been laughing on and off for 10 minutes about it so thought I'd share. KLaw cracks me up sometimes.

 

Posted
The point isn't that they have better high end talent, it's that they're a lot better at rounding out the roster with useful talent. Jaso and Norris are better than JPA and Thole. Smith is better than DeRosa. Their worst pitchers were better than Toronto's worst pitchers etc...

 

 

6e3it.jpg

Posted
The point isn't that they have better high end talent, it's that they're a lot better at rounding out the roster with useful talent. Jaso and Norris are better than JPA and Thole. Smith is better than DeRosa. Their worst pitchers were better than Toronto's worst pitchers etc...

 

Agree

 

A's "You're s***......you can't get 100 or more AB in this team"

Posted

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney

If season started today, picks from here would be: WAS, ATL, STL, LAD, SD as playoff teams in NL, TB, BOS, NYY, DET, OAK in AL. Your picks?

 

Correct on the Red Sox and Rays, delusional on the Yankees (it's ESPN. What do you expect?), still a tough call on Detroit because of Verlander's injury and Kinsler being a downgrade over Fielder offensively, even with Nick Castellanos expected to be at 3B. Don't forget the Royals have a decent pitching staff even without Ervin Santana, and the coming arrival of Yordano Ventura. Oakland is accurate, but what about the Rangers? And don't forget, most teams, like the Jays and Orioles, aren't done yet in free agency.

 

As of the NL, most are accurate except for San Diego.

Posted
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney

If season started today, picks from here would be: WAS, ATL, STL, LAD, SD as playoff teams in NL, TB, BOS, NYY, DET, OAK in AL. Your picks?

 

Correct on the Red Sox and Rays, delusional on the Yankees (it's ESPN. What do you expect?), still a tough call on Detroit because of Verlander's injury and Kinsler being a downgrade over Fielder offensively, even with Nick Castellanos expected to be at 3B. Don't forget the Royals have a decent pitching staff even without Ervin Santana, and the coming arrival of Yordano Ventura. Oakland is accurate, but what about the Rangers? And don't forget, most teams, like the Jays and Orioles, aren't done yet in free agency.

 

As of the NL, most are accurate except for San Diego.

 

AL-Rays, Bos, Det, Tex and Angels

NL-Nats, SL, Pirates, LAD, Giants

Community Moderator
Posted
An optimal lineup can make a difference of 1-2 wins over a season.

 

Assuming where you slot players has no psychological influence on their offensive performance.

Community Moderator
Posted
If this actually applies, more the reason to put Rasmus in 3 slot.

 

Reyes

Bautista

Rasmus

Encarnacion

Lind

Lawrie

Cabrera

Navarro

Goins

 

Unless Rasmus is the type of guy who wilts under pressure! Bautista'd be cranky if he wasn't hitter third, methinks. The best hitters hit third, after all.

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Who knows anything about this guy?

 

link

 

Excellent glove at a premium position and I don't think his Davenport translations were terrible. Like a marginally less talented fielding but better hitting by far Hech.

Posted
Excellent glove at a premium position and I don't think his Davenport translations were terrible. Like a marginally less talented fielding but better hitting by far Hech.

 

So you're saying he would play SS for us?

 

Reyes at 2nd would be exciting.

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