Happ return tracker

[ElNik2013]

This is why AA should try and trade Juan Perez for anything right now.

 

 

 

And Darren Oliver, I'd actually trade Oliver ahead of Perez unless you can get "more" for Perez.

[JaysRap]

Sounds like a surprising surplus between starters and bullpen pieces coming back to the major league team. Really should be trading at least one of these pieces.

[G-Snarls]

[G-Snarls]

Sounds like a surprising surplus between starters and bullpen pieces coming back to the major league team. Really should be trading at least one of these pieces.

 

Yep

 

I mean, another starter will likely get hurt before the year is over, but the depth should be there in spades.

[ElNik2013]

Sounds like a surprising surplus between starters and bullpen pieces coming back to the major league team. Really should be trading at least one of these pieces.

 

 

They should try to trade JJ and maybe 2-3 bullpen guys and I don't just mean Darren Oliver/Juan Perez. I'm talking Janssen, Delabar or Cecil. I think they could get a couple of good prospects for these guys. At least deal from strength, a Rasmus/Escobar type deal would be freaking great.

[Angrioter]

Redmond might be enough to put the inevitable Sanchez for Bruce Chen deal over the top.

 

Sell high on The Todd

 

Redmond, Ortiz, Laffey, Jenkins, Wang = a lot of outings.

It's not fair

[ElNik2013]

Santos' return is also imminent, or did I miss it and he had a setback? If he's on schedule, that's another 40-man roster spot that needs to be opened up.

[theblujay]

They should try to trade JJ and maybe 2-3 bullpen guys and I don't just mean Darren Oliver/Juan Perez. I'm talking Janssen, Delabar or Cecil. I think they could get a couple of good prospects for these guys. At least deal from strength, a Rasmus/Escobar type deal would be freaking great.

 

A glimmer of the old AA with a Rasmus type deal would be so nice right now.

[Abomination]

He's at Buffalo right now IIRC

 

In fact he just entered the game

[G-Snarls]

A glimmer of the old AA with a Rasmus type deal would be so nice right now.

 

Hells yes

[G-Snarls]

In fact he just entered the game

 

Enter Santos

[G-Snarls]

Santos' return is also imminent, or did I miss it and he had a setback? If he's on schedule, that's another 40-man roster spot that needs to be opened up.

 

It is

 

AA is going to have SERIOUS roster issues over the next month

 

Need to consolidate some assets

[G-Snarls]

JJ and a BP arm for Cron

[G-Snarls]

In fact he just entered the game

 

Santos just struck out the side

[Angrioter]

Santos just struck out the side

 

Great

Depth RP

[John_Havok]

Atlanta is in the market for LH relief with only 1 lefty in the pen right now. Lots of options out there for them though

[Chappy]

Yep

 

I mean, another starter will likely get hurt before the year is over, but the depth should be there in spades.

 

The team is setup quite nicely in terms of SP depth for next year. Hutch, Stroman, Nolin and Drabek all figure to be guys to start the season in the minors and call up when injuries hit and that is not too shabby.

 

I believe Happ will be out of options for next year but how about Romero?

[G-Snarls]

The team is setup quite nicely in terms of SP depth for next year. Hutch, Stroman, Nolin and Drabek all figure to be guys to start the season in the minors and call up when injuries hit and that is not too shabby.

 

I believe Happ will be out of options for next year but how about Romero?

 

Romero is out of options

 

That's why he had to clear waivers this year when he was stinking up the joint

[Chappy]

Romero is out of options

 

That's why he had to clear waivers this year when he was stinking up the joint

 

Ah..Ok, that makes sense. Chances are though if he continues like he is going he will likely be in the mix for a spot next year.

[Chappy]

#1

Morrow

Dickey

Buehrle

Happ

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Rogers (BP)

Nolin (AAA)

Stroman (AAA)

Hutchison (AAA)

 

As things stand the depth is pretty enviable. Unfortunately, that's a s*** rotation. I see a 3/4 (Morrow), two 4/5s (Dickey, Buehrle), and a 5 (Happ). This rotation needs at least one legit front-rotation arm to be competitive. Preferably two.

 

Don't forget our very own Ricky Romero. Man it really sucks being stuck with his contract and no one remotely interested in him.

[G-Snarls]

#1

Morrow

Dickey

Buehrle

Happ

-----

Rogers (BP)

Nolin (AAA)

Stroman (AAA)

Hutchison (AAA)

 

As things stand the depth is pretty enviable. Unfortunately, that's a s*** rotation. I see a 3/4 (Morrow), two 4/5s (Dickey, Buehrle), and a 5 (Happ). This rotation needs at least one legit front-rotation arm to be competitive. Preferably two.

 

I wanted to comment on Happ and found this thread as a jump off point

 

Wow but wow Happ looks bad. I'm not even sure he's even an acceptable #5 starter

 

Here's hoping we pick up a Tanaka or Garza, and get some major upswings next year out of the DL guys (Hutch, Morrow, Drabek)

 

And can retain Johnson on a cheap 1 year deal

 

Egads

[Convo]

Wow but wow Happ looks bad. I'm not even sure he's even an acceptable #5 starter

 

He's certainly not. Even Redmond is a better option. And don't forget Sean Nolin... he's still a possibility

[G-Snarls]

He's certainly not. Even Redmond is a better option. And don't forget Sean Nolin... he's still a possibility

 

Heck, I'm pretty sure I'd take Rogers over Happ too

[Convo]

Heck, I'm pretty sure I'd take Rogers over Happ too

 

Well yeah, that's just assumed... Esmil throws harder and has better stuff than both those guys, so obviously his ceiling has to be higher

[G-Snarls]

Well yeah, that's just assumed... Esmil throws harder and has better stuff than both those guys, so obviously his ceiling has to be higher

 

Yes. It's the consistency that Rogers lacks, when his fastball doesn't sink. And he doesn't throw the variety that the craftier guys do.

 

I see a rotation of maybe:

 

Buerhle

Tanaka

Dickey

Rogers

Morrow or Drabek

 

With pretty good depth in Hutch, Stroman, Romero, Happ

 

How good it that starting rotation? Maybe average in the AL? Hard to say.

[Convo]

Yes. It's the consistency that Rogers lacks, when his fastball doesn't sink. And he doesn't throw the variety that the craftier guys do.

 

I see a rotation of maybe:

 

Buerhle

Tanaka

Dickey

Rogers

Morrow or Drabek

 

With pretty good depth in Hutch, Stroman, Romero, Happ

 

How good it that starting rotation? Maybe average in the AL? Hard to say.

 

I'd say the chances of us getting Tanaka are about 1 in a 10. Not good enough to bank on.

 

It's gonna be Buehrle, Dickey, Morrow for sure, and probably Esmil... but I'd like to see one of Drabek, Hutch, or Nolin earn their way into the rotation.

 

At this point we pretty much know what we're going to get from Buehrle, Esmil, and Dickey. Though Dickey probably is a little be better next season; honestly how can he give up so many HRs at RC? Morrow and the rest are all wild cards IMO.

Edited September 13, 2013 by Convo

[G-Snarls]

I'd say the chances of us getting Tanaka are about 1 in a 10. Not good enough to bank on.

 

It's gonna be Buehrle, Dickey, Morrow for sure, and probably Esmil... but I'd like to see one of Drabek, Hutch, or Nolin earn their way into the rotation.

 

At this point we pretty much know what we're going to get from Buehrle, Esmil, and Dickey. Though Dickey probably has a little be better season; honestly how can he give up so many HRs at RC? Morrow and the rest are all wild cards IMO.

 

Morrow's the one who drives you crazy. Can be soooo good but can't stay healthy.

 

I'm not holding my breath on Drabek. He wasn't that good even before his second TJS.

[P2F]

Ladies and gentleman, I give you the real "Jay" Happ...

[Convo]

Morrow's the one who drives you crazy. Can be soooo good but can't stay healthy.

 

I'm not holding my breath on Drabek. He wasn't that good even before his second TJS.

 

Drabek wasn't that good? Last I remember he was f***ing brutal.

[G-Snarls]

Drabek wasn't that good? Last I remember he was f***ing brutal.

 

I guess I was trying to be nice. LOL.