NBA Thread

[nextyear]

It is good to see the Raptors win tonight. I thought the Cavaliers would win in 4 game but I am just a casual fan and don't know much about the NBA.

 

If Jonas Valanciunas could play, would the Raptors have a chance against Cleveland? In the games I watched he seemed like an important part of the team.

[GD]

biyombo has to be re-signed, masai please

 

what is someone going to pay him vs what is he worth

 

60/4 vs 40/4?

[GD]

Hmm Kyrie hurt? Or Kyrie's ego "hurt"?

 

Min,

 

If you're gonna steal my photo for facebook, at least drop a thanks. :~)

 

GD

[Atothe]

what is someone going to pay him vs what is he worth

 

60/4 vs 40/4?

 

He's looking at at least 12 per

[GD]

He's looking at at least 12 per

 

That would be why I said someone could pay him 60/4

 

But what is he worth is the question

[Atothe]

Mavs, Lakers, Houston and Atlanta will bid for him

[Atothe]

That would be why I said someone could pay him 60/4

 

But what is he worth is the question

 

In this nba he is. Thompson got max money for bascially being the same guy.

[dineke]

what is someone going to pay him vs what is he worth

 

60/4 vs 40/4?

 

4/60 would be a good deal. Tristan f***ing Thompson who he just destroyed signed for 82 mil.

[burlingtonbandit]

4/60 would be a good deal. Tristan f***ing Thompson who he just destroyed signed for 82 mil.

 

Not for this Raptors team it wouldn't. You don't pay 26 million for 2 guys who can't be on the floor at the same time.

[dineke]

Not for this Raptors team it wouldn't. You don't pay 26 million for 2 guys who can't be on the floor at the same time.

 

You can always trade JV...

 

Bismack + assets from JV trade or JV and Bismack walks away for nothing?

[GD]

You can always trade JV...

 

Bismack + assets from JV trade or JV and Bismack walks away for nothing?

 

What are we trading JV for

[Atothe]

What are we trading JV for

 

This, if nothing that knocks your socks off move on. A young stud center that is on a cheap contract is a huge asset

[burlingtonbandit]

You can always trade JV...

 

Bismack + assets from JV trade or JV and Bismack walks away for nothing?

 

I'm sure the FO will look at the possibility. I really don't see room for both to be on the team though.

[dineke]

This, if nothing that knocks your socks off move on. A young stud center that is on a cheap contract is a huge asset

 

bismack is a young stud center too though, just in different ways.

[dineke]

btw i'm not advocating JV gets traded. He could certainly develop into a way better player than bismack and bite us in the ass.

[Atothe]

btw i'm not advocating JV gets traded. He could certainly develop into a way better player than bismack and bite us in the ass.

 

he already is

[Atothe]

And JV stepped up big time defensively in the post season.

[dineke]

well in the regular season they were closer than you think. Biz was that much better than JV on defense but JV had stepped it up in the postseason.

[GD]

I still don't know who you're advocating trading JV for. Of any conceivably available assets, assuming Harden isn't, I don't really know who I'd deal him for.

[Atothe]

well in the regular season they were closer than you think. Biz was that much better than JV on defense but JV had stepped it up in the postseason.

 

no it wasn't lol

[burlingtonbandit]

lol Michael Grange asked Lebron during his presser if he tried to "sell the call" when he got hit in the face before realizing its Thompson. Lebron laughed it off but you could tell he wanted to say something back and embarrass Grange.

[GD]

[dineke]

I still don't know who you're advocating trading JV for. Of any conceivably available assets, assuming Harden isn't, I don't really know who I'd deal him for.

 

Is JV worth the number 2 pick in the upcoming draft? I would do that. I really don't know what his value is, it's masai's job to find out and to decide if that is worth replacing JV with biyombo.

[Atothe]

Is JV worth the number 2 pick in the upcoming draft? I would do that. I really don't know what his value is, it's masai's job to find out and to decide if that is worth replacing JV with biyombo.

 

Here is the simple answer, look to take the cap hit and trade Demar next offseason

[Caper]

Hard to believe people talking Bismack as a max guy, but if Val wasn't hurt no one would be talking about him.

[jays_fever]

No one is talking about Biz as a max guy lol

[jays_fever]

If the Lakers get Demar, I could see them moving the pick though. With no C they could use JV.

[GD]

Is JV worth the number 2 pick in the upcoming draft? I would do that. I really don't know what his value is, it's masai's job to find out and to decide if that is worth replacing JV with biyombo.

 

I wouldn't trade him for Ingram but definitely for Simmons

[crazy47larry]

trading JV for the #2 pick would be silly. biyombo is going to cost close to the same $$$ as JV and simply isnt as good. its not like we are saving anything in the long run other than a couple million in cap space a year.

 

plus the draft is such a crapshoot its not like the #2 pick is guaranteed to be good at all. here are 10 years worth of #2 picks.

 

2015 D'Angelo Russell

2014 Jabari Parker

2013 Victor Oladipo Indiana Orlando

2012 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Kentucky Charlotte

2011 Derrick Williams Arizona Minnesota

2010 Evan Turner Ohio State Philadelphia

2009 Hasheem Thabeet Connecticut Memphis

2008 Michael Beasley Kansas St. Miami

2007 Kevin Durant Texas Seattle

2006 LaMarcus Aldridge Texas Chicago

 

i'd say 3 of them are legitimately better than JV (50/50 on oladipo though), 5 of them are absolutely worse, and the jury is out on Russell and Parker. maybe one of them could be better but I doubt it at this point.

 

 

TLDR = u guys are batshit crazy if u think trading JV is a good idea.

[Atothe]

trading JV for the #2 pick would be silly. biyombo is going to cost close to the same $$$ as JV and simply isnt as good. its not like we are saving anything in the long run other than a couple million in cap space a year.

 

plus the draft is such a crapshoot its not like the #2 pick is guaranteed to be good at all. here are 10 years worth of #2 picks.

 

2015 D'Angelo Russell

2014 Jabari Parker

2013 Victor Oladipo Indiana Orlando

2012 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Kentucky Charlotte

2011 Derrick Williams Arizona Minnesota

2010 Evan Turner Ohio State Philadelphia

2009 Hasheem Thabeet Connecticut Memphis

2008 Michael Beasley Kansas St. Miami

2007 Kevin Durant Texas Seattle

2006 LaMarcus Aldridge Texas Chicago

 

i'd say 3 of them are legitimately better than JV (50/50 on oladipo though), 5 of them are absolutely worse, and the jury is out on Russell and Parker. maybe one of them could be better but I doubt it at this point.

 

 

TLDR = u guys are batshit crazy if u think trading JV is a good idea.

 

Thank you for talking some sense into people. JV is seriously disrespected by his own fans. Give him demar's touches and you're looking at a superstar