NBA Thread

[GD]

94% of Joseph's 3s were assisted last year. Carroll had a number like that too. Casey's going to get exposed if he doesn't adjust.

[dineke]

Cojo + Biyombo, yep I'm definately back on masai's cock. Now if he would just fire casey and derozan

[GD]

Wonder if we could fit David Lee's contract in. Ridnour's deal is like 3, Ross' deal is like 4, and I think we have a Novak trade exception of about 3.5, and we have about 4-5m in salary cap space.

 

We could grab a still-good PF and I'd think Golden State would include something else too. I like the idea of this tbh

[GD]

Iso is dead. Ball needs to move to make this work. This is Casey's chance to prove everyone wrong. Its a chance he didn't deserve. But it he can get this team playing defense the way they were a lot of people will shut up.

 

I dunno if the defense was Casey's fault last year. With Lou Demar and Vasquez there's only so much you can do. I do like the way we defend pick and rolls.

 

Iso ball will be a big thing. If Casey moves on from that, I'll go back to being neutral on him.

[dineke]

I doubt Masai will go after David Lee after bringing in all these defensive players. A Lee+JV frontcourt would be gross defensively, and Patterson is not known for his defense either. They need someone like Taj Gibson.

[GD]

Love David Lee. I just wish he was a better defender. He got dumped out of the Warriors rotation for this reason alone. He could be 18 and 10 again for sure though.

 

Ross + Ridnour + Novak cap exception for Lee would be taking on 4.5m of cap space. If Joseph and Carroll's deals are back loaded, which it'd be ridiculous if they weren't, I see no reason we can't afford that. I'm sure GS would include an asset with Lee as well, especially considering Ross kind of has value.

 

His defense isn't good but that's what Biyombo is for. Really want this to happen.

[GD]

I doubt Masai will go after David Lee after bringing in all these defensive players. A Lee+JV frontcourt would be gross defensively, and Patterson is not known for his defense either. They need someone like Taj Gibson.

 

I think Gibson probably happens. What's our wishlist at this point?

 

Solid options:

1. Lee 2. Morris 3. Gibson 4. Gallinari

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5. Everyone else

[dineke]

Off the top of my head for PF:

 

1. Taj Gibson/probably a few guys I can't remember

2. A random tall guy

 

 

 

 

 

3. Lee

[GD]

I hear Sim Bhullar is available and Canadian

 

Let me put it this way. If we trade for Lee, we'll get a first round pick in the deal. The more first rounders we have. the more first rounders we can package with Demar for someone who isn't bad

[dineke]

I will be interested to see if a JV/Biyombo front court can work. JV will have to start hitting jumpers instead of pumpfaking all the time though.

[GD]

I will be interested to see if a JV/Biyombo front court can work. JV will have to start hitting jumpers instead of pumpfaking all the time though.

 

He's shot around 39% from mid range. Doesn't need a ton of work to make that legitimately good. His jump shot is definitely workable imo

[GD]

Dineke if you want defense at PF we should probably be going for Faried

 

Contract is really reasonable under new cap and he's a Ujiri guy. Wonder what it'd take. Ross, Ridnour, a first and second? Not NYK first.

[dineke]

Faried is not good at defense...

[GD]

Faried is not good at defense...

 

I'm going off of a 107 DRTG

 

His defense tracking seems pretty average though

[dineke]

Is it a reputation thing? I've not once watched him play

 

All his shot differentials are bad, I'll have to look at his sportvu data to see the bigger picture, give my a sec.

[GD]

All his shot differentials are bad, I'll have to look at his sportvu data to see the bigger picture, give my a sec.

 

I edited my post, I was going off of a 107 Drating, saw his tracking tho, average-bad for sure.

 

Is sportvu public?

[dineke]

37,20,67 percentile for iso, post-up, and pick and roll in that order. He's not very good.

 

You can find sportvu on nba.com, it's just a hassle to go through.

[GD]

Js if we got a first for taking on Lee that'd be 3 first rounders including one that is likely to be pretty high

 

Rookie contracts are going to be gold in the new TV deal. Rookie scale won't be adjusted to the cap, I don't think. Unless it will, in which case I'm dumn. But 3 picks is still nice. Simmons, Rabb, Bender, Murray, etc.

[dineke]

A draft pick from GS will probably be 27 or later. David Lee is just so crappy on defense and he doesn't even have 3 pt range.

[GD]

Totally but pick 28 + pick 25 (being optimistic here for our Raps) + a lotto pick could fetch something good next year and Lee isn't a bad stop gap for just one year. Horford, Anderson, Terrence Jones, Danillo, MKG, Barnes, Henson, Jefferson, Hickson, Drummond, Whiteside are all FA next year fwiw. we f***ing gave away Whiteside sigh

 

Isn't Lee a very good passer? That's something we need.

[dineke]

Aren't we up against the cap right now with the cjo signing? And I think Lee is making 14 mil next year? I mean even if we got rid of Delmar we would still need to make more cap room to absorb Lee.

[GD]

Aren't we up against the cap right now with the cjo signing? And I think Lee is making 14 mil next year? I mean even if we got rid of Delmar we would still need to make more cap room to absorb Lee.

 

Ross + Novak cap exception + Ridnour nonguaranteed for Lee would be a net cost of 4.5m or so. We either have the cost or very close to the cost to absorb his contract, I believe. I could be totally wrong, does the cap exception expire or something?

[dineke]

I think it only lasts to the draft. I'm not sure though.

[SpeedyGose]

Stolen from RealGM, I will be shocked if we don't see a lot of Lowry-CoJo lineups:

 

CoJo:

1444 total MP

74% at PG: +133 +/-

98.2 OFF - 92.2 DEF = +6.0 Net48

16.1 PER (.543 eFG%)

12.7 OPP PER, (.432 eFG%)

Net PER = 3.4

 

26% at SG: +40 +/-

101.8 OFF - 16.5 DEF = +5.3 Net48

16.5 PER (.465 eFG%)

11.7 OPP PER (.455 eFG%)

Net PER = 4.9

[jays_fever]

Joseph, Carrell, Wright, Biyoma in. Vasquez, Lou, Hansbrough out. Yea this team will actually be watchable next year

 

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[Horses Fart]

So CoJo got more then Lou. Something wrong here? And appearently Lou's a little sour on being told to walk.

[dineke]

Cojo is a better defender with more potential, and he's Canadian so he'll sell jerseys.

[Horses Fart]

Cojo is a better defender with more potential, and he's Canadian so he'll sell jerseys.

 

I dunno man I think we're gonna miss Sweet Lou. Just sayin.

[dineke]

I dunno man I think we're gonna miss Sweet Lou. Just sayin.

 

We will on offense but given a choice between Joseph and Lou, I'll take my chance on the 23 year old with great defense. Plus a move away from isoball is a good thing in my books.

[jays_fever]

Raptors interested in Boozer. I`d like him off the bench as our 4th big. Very good rebounder, solid defender