NBA Thread

[dineke]

Bulls are always scary in the regular season.

[SpeedyGose]

Giannis had 16 pts (7-8 shooting) 8 rebs 4 asts 3 blocks tonight. Really wish Masai could have found a way to get a pick last year. Might be my favourite player not on Raps

[dineke]

Giannis had 16 pts (7-8 shooting) 8 rebs 4 asts 3 blocks tonight. Really wish Masai could have found a way to get a pick last year. Might be my favourite player not on Raps

 

It would have been very sad if Lowry didn't work out the way that it has here.

 

Edit: Actually it's still very sad.

[burlingtonbandit]

Bulls

Raptors/Cavaliers

Wizards

Hawks/Heat

 

Imo

 

My East is:

 

Bulls

Raps

Wizards/Cavs/Hawks

Heat

 

Cleveland's defense is a problem that I don't really see being fixed with the current roster. Bulls healthy is a very very good team. I am kinda scared at how many mins Thibs plays his guys though. Bulls have a history of wearing down come playoff time and Butler is playing almost 40 min/night. No matter how good of an athlete you are that takes a massive toll on the body.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

The odds of the Bulls staying healthy deep into the playoffs are pretty bad.

 

Jimmy Butler is playing 41 MPG. That is going to catch up with him eventually and Rose is made of glass.

 

If they're healthy they're clearly the best team in the east though.

Edited December 30, 2014 by eastcoastjaysfan

[eastcoastjaysfan]

A lot of chatter about Boogie wanting a trade out of Sacramento. Pretty tempting but it'd likely take at least JV + Ross + 1st.

 

I wouldn't do it.

[jays_fever]

Wouldnt trade Ross but Demar+ JV id do it.

 

A Lowry-Ross-Johnson-Johnson/Pattterson-Cousins lineup is a championship front 5

[dineke]

A lot of chatter about Boogie wanting a trade out of Sacramento. Pretty tempting but it'd likely take at least JV + Ross + 1st.

 

I wouldn't do it.

 

I'm probably the biggest JV supporter here but I would do that trade in a heartbeat.

[burlingtonbandit]

As much as we love being armchair GM Cousins is not going to be traded. Not even the Kings are that stupid.

[dineke]

Not even the Kings are that stupid.

 

You'd be surprised.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Wouldnt trade Ross but Demar+ JV id do it.

 

A Lowry-Ross-Johnson-Johnson/Pattterson-Cousins lineup is a championship front 5

 

You are higher on Ross than Demar?

[eastcoastjaysfan]

I like Ross but I don't think he's even close to Demar.

 

-Can't play defense to save his life (stumpy arms hurt but he is also brutal at breaking screens on the perimeter.. someone as athletic as him shouldn't be getting killed like that by Korver/Redick/etc)

-Can't get to the line

-Very average handles

-Way too passive

[GD]

That would be an amazing trade especially with Ross and JV expiring at the same time. Pleaaassseeee.

[jays_fever]

You are higher on Ross than Demar?

 

Not but its a better fit for the team. Demar Lowry and Cousins are all high usage players and there's only one ball.

[dineke]

I like Ross but I don't think he's even close to Demar.

 

-Can't play defense to save his life (stumpy arms hurt but he is also brutal at breaking screens on the perimeter.. someone as athletic as him shouldn't be getting killed like that by Korver/Redick/etc)

-Can't get to the line

-Very average handles

-Way too passive

 

Don't like neither but Ross doesn't cost 10 mil a year.

[GD]

Don't like neither but Ross doesn't cost 10 mil a year.

 

He's coming up though, isn't he? He'll get a decent chunk of change himself.

[jays_fever]

[dineke]

He's coming up though, isn't he? He'll get a decent chunk of change himself.

 

Derozan is going to come up after next year and is going to get at least 15 a year because he was an "all-star". I truly believe there is no way he's on this team past next year or we're headed to a half decade of treadmilling.

 

And if Ross asks for 10 million a year, he can GTFO too.

[GD]

Derozan is going to come up after next year and is going to get at least 15 a year because he was an "all-star". I truly believe there is no way he's on this team past next year or we're headed to a half decade of treadmilling.

 

And if Ross asks for 10 million a year, he can GTFO too.

 

Hope we can find a way to upgrade the Knicks pick into a pick high enough for Ben Simmons or someone on the wing. If Ross asks for like 6.5 that's ok I guess.

 

Lou, Ross, JJ and JV all expire this year iirc. Not good.

[SpeedyGose]

With the uptick in revenue coming in, I will be surprised if Ross makes anything under 9 million a year. Greivis f***ing Vasquez is making 6.5.

 

I agree that Ross would be a much better fit than Demar. Jays fever is right on, there is only one ball and Lowry/Demar/Cousins are all high usage players. Fit is more important than skill in this scenario, there would be no spacing at all with a Lowry-Demar-JJ-Amir-Cousins lineup

[SpeedyGose]

Hope we can find a way to upgrade the Knicks pick into a pick high enough for Ben Simmons or someone on the wing. If Ross asks for like 6.5 that's ok I guess.

 

Lou, Ross, JJ and JV all expire this year iirc. Not good.

 

Amir and Lou expire this year.

 

Ross JJ and JV expire in '16 and Fields + Stiemsma + Hayes all expire this year. Available money shouldn't be an issue

[burlingtonbandit]

You'd be surprised.

 

Yeah but this isn't the first time Cousins has been "not happy" and he is still a King. There's been no indication they are even thinking of dealing him.

[jays_fever]

Hope we can find a way to upgrade the Knicks pick into a pick high enough for Ben Simmons or someone on the wing. If Ross asks for like 6.5 that's ok I guess.

 

Lou, Ross, JJ and JV all expire this year iirc. Not good.

 

Val and Ross don't become RFA's until the following off season, JJ is signed throughout next season as well. Lou and Amir are the only significant free agents this upcoming off season

[GD]

Amir and Lou expire this year.

 

Ross JJ and JV expire in '16 and Fields + Stiemsma + Hayes all expire this year. Available money shouldn't be an issue

 

Val and Ross don't become RFA's until the following off season, JJ is signed throughout next season as well. Lou and Amir are the only significant free agents this upcoming off season

 

Ok, good. Misremembered. So that Cousins trade + a nice rookie this year would do wonders.

[dineke]

With the uptick in revenue coming in, I will be surprised if Ross makes anything under 9 million a year. Greivis f***ing Vasquez is making 6.5.

 

I agree that Ross would be a much better fit than Demar. Jays fever is right on, there is only one ball and Lowry/Demar/Cousins are all high usage players. Fit is more important than skill in this scenario, there would be no spacing at all with a Lowry-Demar-JJ-Amir-Cousins lineup

 

Sure Ross' market value might be 9 million but do we want to pay him that? You can find a 3+D player (And Ross can't even seem to play D these days) for less.

[dineke]

Yeah but this isn't the first time Cousins has been "not happy" and he is still a King. There's been no indication they are even thinking of dealing him.

 

Yeah but it's fun to imagine.

[burlingtonbandit]

Yeah but it's fun to imagine.

 

May as well talk about Lebron coming to Toronto next year too then.

[dineke]

May as well talk about Lebron coming to Toronto next year too then.

 

Right after we talk about Durant coming here in 2016.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Amir and Lou expire this year.

 

Ross JJ and JV expire in '16 and Fields + Stiemsma + Hayes all expire this year. Available money shouldn't be an issue

 

Do they let Lou walk though? He's a perfect fit.

[SpeedyGose]

Do they let Lou walk though? He's a perfect fit.

 

If he asks for what I think he will, I think he's going. Getting another quality 4 is more important than bringing back Lou since I don't think Amir will come back unless it's at his current salary or lower.