digiblader Verified Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Thought I'd evaluate catchers in the AL East, considering how tight the division is, to see who is the best in the division defensively and offensively. Red Sox Jarrod Saltalamacchia-- 0.0 dWAR, 1.3 oWAR David Ross 0.4 dWAR, 0.2 oWAR (DL--concussion) Ryan Lavarnway 0.0 dWAR, 0.1 oWAR Good thing for Salty's bat--they're not paying him for his glove. David Ross's injury really hurts--it leaves them with two below average defensive catchers. Lavarnway's sample size is too small to determine. Salty ranks as one of the worst catchers in baseball defensively.. a tick below Arencibia. It should also be noted that most of the pitching last year for Boston that stunk was mostly Salty's fault. YANKEES Chris Stewart (0.3 dWAR, 0.1 oWAR) Cervelli (0.7 oWAR, 0.2 dWAR) Austin Romine (0.1 dWAR--don't ask about his offense) Well, at least Yanks catchers can defend well--probably explains why their pitching has kept the team competitive. ORIOLES Matt Wieters 0.4 oWAR, -0.2dWAR Teagarden (0.1 dWAR, -0.3 oWAR) If Wieters is supposed to be a great catcher, why does he stink so much defensively this season? He's been far from a Gold Glover this year. Doesn't help that his pitching staff is 2nd worst in the AL, next to Houston. RAYS Jose Molina -0.2dWAR, 0.5 oWAR Jose Lobaton 0.8 oWAR, 0.2 dWAR Molina's losing a step--but Lobaton is doing well this season so far. BLUE JAYS JP Arencibia 0.7 oWAR, 0.1 dWAR Thole (0.1 dWAR) Blanco(DFA'd, only played when Dickey pitched, 0.0dWAR) For defense in 2013--the best catchers are(as of present) Yankees(0.6dWAR), Jays(0.1dWAR), Red Sox(0.4 with Ross, +-0.0dWAR without), Rays (0.0dWAR) Orioles(-0.1 dWAR). If you're wondering how certain pitching staffs have done so well or so awful--look at their catchers. It usually matches up quite well--in order of ERA: Yanks (4th), Red Sox(7th--still hard to call with Ross out), Jays (8th), Rays(12th), Orioles (14th)
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 "most of the pitching last year for Boston that stunk was mostly Salty's fault" Why do you waste your time? Don't you have better things to do like searching up midget porn?
IronLadle Verified Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Wieters is good defensively, I'm just glad he's never reached his potential with the bat.
digiblader Verified Member Posted June 24, 2013 Author Posted June 24, 2013 True--but Wieters has declined defensively since 2011.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 This is such a stupid thread..can we get rid of this guy now
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Why are you flipping back and forth with oWAR and dWAR orders?
digiblader Verified Member Posted June 24, 2013 Author Posted June 24, 2013 Sorry--It was difficult trying to do research and write this posting. But still--look at the numbers. The numbers with the pitchers and catchers seem to be similar.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Sorry--It was difficult trying to do research and write this posting. But still--look at the numbers. The numbers with the pitchers and catchers seem to be similar. It's all about CERA man, only stat that matters!
DickeyJohnsonWang Verified Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 To be honest they're all pretty dreadful. Weiters has been dissapointing this season. JP has been good with the bat at home but just horrible on the road -- .198 wOBA and slugging just .271
digiblader Verified Member Posted June 24, 2013 Author Posted June 24, 2013 Yes. If you want good catchers, go to St. Louis(Yadier Molina), Pittsburgh(Russell Martin) or KC(Salvador Perez).
digiblader Verified Member Posted June 24, 2013 Author Posted June 24, 2013 Give it a rest already. I know I was wrong to trust CERA. Perhaps I overanalyze too much.. I'm a bit of a sabermetrics guy.
havok24 Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Can we f***ing ban this clown already?
havok24 Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 give it a rest already. I know i was wrong to trust cera. Perhaps i overanalyze too much.. I'm a bit of a sabermetrics guy. lmao
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Can we f***ing ban this clown already? I thought that was the idea of this forum...
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Can we f***ing ban this clown already? I'm more of a "ban abusive *******s" type, I don't think digiblader qualifies there.
TBJ12 Verified Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 I thought that was the idea of this forum... Can someone please explain to me why digiblader needs to be banned? I really don't understand the problem with this thread.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Perhaps I overanalyze too much.. I'm a bit of a sabermetrics guy. Lol, this f***ing killed me.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Can someone please explain to me why digiblader needs to be banned? I really don't understand the problem with this thread. He was high85 on the old board. Also raysjays. He is probably the dogg too.
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Ummm, you are aware pitch framing doesn't factor into dWAR right? NOW STOP f***ING SAYING THAT A CATCHERS BAD DEFENSE IS f***ING UP THE PITCHING STAFF.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Perhaps I overanalyze too much.. I'm a bit of a sabermetrics guy. LOL^100000000000000000000000 f*** it, I had signatures turned off, but I'm turning them on for this. This is going in my signature.
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