Ortiz possibly starting in Boston

[GD]

http://blogs.thescore.com/djf/2013/05/09/ramon-ortiz-to-start-in-boston-if-not-used-tonight/

 

If Ortiz isn't used tonight, he'll make a start in Boston. That'll be fun.

[Metallijay]

Amazes me how we have almost no options after a couple injuries, injuries always happen. Never say never buy it's going to take a miracle to turn it around with such bad pitching.

[GD]

s***. This will basically be a guaranteed loss, Ortiz is going to get destroyed.

 

How can we have so much invested in this season and be running out Ramon Ortiz??

 

And J.P. Arencibia. And Maicer Izturis. And Emilio Bonifacio.

 

Sigh.

[dineke]

Dan Evans for GM!

[jays_fever]

This is getting like last year. Im offcially fed up with everyone involved in management. Can Mark Cuban buy the Jays please

[Metallijay]

I'm pretty sure some ex jay did a satanic ritual and cursed the org, shea Hillenbrand? He seemed like the type to be in a satanic cult.

[LGBJ29]

LOL...Ramon Ortiz

[CHRIS]

Tough to blame AA on this one, he probably thought he was getting 21-game winner Russ Ortiz, who we may still see this season.

[Angrioter]

El barbero de Bonao uhrra

[DwightDM]

Good God.. surely there's someone better out there somewheres...

[over500]

A 40-year old junk baller, who wasn't even good enough to be a 5th starter in his prime, is our 7th starter in an all-in season. Fantastic.

[Olerud363]

This is getting like last year. Im offcially fed up with everyone involved in management. Can Mark Cuban buy the Jays please

 

A Mark Cuban like figure. Or a guy like Jim Balsillie. An owner. A top dog, not a politician. A trader, a shammer, a salesman, a maniac, an entrepeuner, a free market capitalist, a guy the politicians hate. A rebel, with some degree of mental problems. A guy who walks his own path, doesn't where a suit, doesn't care about shaking hands.

 

A guy who didn't complete business school. A guy who has no friends and doesn't need them. That's what needed.

 

A guy who doesn't shmooze. A guy who likes building things better than marketing them. An alpha male who frightens the other dogs.

 

The president of the team works for this guy. The GM works for the president. If things go wrong someone pays. The game is to win not to hire your friends. If the team doesn't score enough runs, if a trade doesn't work out, if a draft pick doesn't work out, if a scouting report isn't right the person repsonsible is evaluated, seriously and with urgency, and eliminated if that is required.

 

Everyone fears the top dog. The president isn't the guy in charge, the president (Beeston's position) is just another guy living in fear of the top dog. It's this type of top dog that's needed.

[Terminator]

http://blogs.thescore.com/djf/2013/05/09/ramon-ortiz-to-start-in-boston-if-not-used-tonight/

 

If Ortiz isn't used tonight, he'll make a start in Boston. That'll be fun.

 

Why not start Lincoln there instead?

[GD]

Dan Evans for GM!

 

There's gotta be a better option, like a David Forst or someone.

 

All you can really do is laugh at this point.

 

Laugh, cry, curl up in a ball, die.

[Metallijay]

There's gotta be a better option, like a David Forst or someone.

 

 

 

Laugh, cry, curl up in a ball, die.

 

Alcohol helps.

[GD]

Ramon Ortiz since 2005: 532.2 IP, -0.3 fWAR.

 

Oh my God what the f***.

[Caper]

Can juan Perez give us anything? He looked pretty good the one time I saw him in spring training.

[Metallijay]

Its pretty unacceptable. And its not like anything unforeseen has really caused this either: everyone new Rick was probably a gas can, and everyone knew JJ has a glass everything. There simply wasn't ever a satisfactory contingency plan.

 

I agree, no plan for any depth with this roster. 1 or 2 injuries should not cripple a so called "World series contender".

[GD]

Can juan Perez give us anything? He looked pretty good the one time I saw him in spring training.

 

Juan Perez is even worse than Ortiz.

 

As ugly as it is: How in the sweet f*** has this guy pitched so many sub-replacement level innings? He was a shitbag even in his prime.

 

How the f*** can you even call that a prime? Doesn't that imply he was even slightly good?

 

s***, he is really f***ing bad. Wow.

[Chappy]

This news just made me sick. I can't believe it has come to this....Well I can believe, just sucks that its actually happening.

[Metallijay]

This news just made me sick. I can't believe it has come to this....Well I can believe, just sucks that its actually happening.

 

Pretty depressing to be here and it's only May 9....................... Pretty sure Shea Hillenbrand put a hex on the org before he left.

[Chappy]

I remember when Ortiz first came up he was a mop-up man who was only going to be up for a couple days. It was kind of a fun story, the 40-year-old veteran surviving due to his love for the game.

 

Now Ramon Ortiz is starting a Major League game.

 

Quite fitting that the last place team in the division has Ortiz as a SP. Well done AA.

[Olerud363]

Quite fitting that the last place team in the division has Ortiz as a SP. Well done AA.

 

On a real team someone would call the Beest about this and the following type conversation would take place.

 

Beest - Alex, the Beest here, got a call from upstairs asking about Ortiz. What's up with that?? Who is he??

 

Alex - He's a bit of a journeyman Paul... I don't know.... things are getting a bit crazy.

 

Beest - They ain't happy upstairs. They're gonna have our heads Alex. Can you do anything. Can we turn this around??

 

Alex - I don't know Paul. I don't know....

 

Beest - I'm just giving you a heads up. No ones happy upstairs. Don't get me wrong. Nothing crazy going to happen over the summer. We're OK for a few months. But come September, if things don't turn around they're gonna be looking at us closer. The both of us. Just be prepared.

 

The fact that this converstation wouldn't take place is what's wrong with the organization.

[wilko]

I can't believe they have nobody to replace Ortiz. I'd rather throw a BP guy out there. I'm sure he'd get more MPH.

[Terminator]

 

The fact that this converstation wouldn't take place is what's wrong with the organization.

 

How do you know that? Do you have trustworthy, inside sources? Also, it goes without saying that if things don't turn around "they're going to be looking" at the front office closer. AA and Beeston don't need to have a conversation to figure that out.

Edited May 9, 2013 by Terminator
took out some cursing, no need to be mean :)

[GeorgiaPeach]

http://blogs.thescore.com/djf/2013/05/09/ramon-ortiz-to-start-in-boston-if-not-used-tonight/

 

If Ortiz isn't used tonight, he'll make a start in Boston. That'll be fun.

 

Because we can't run All stars out like every other team is.

[GeorgiaPeach]

I agree, no plan for any depth with this roster. 1 or 2 injuries should not cripple a so called "World series contender".

 

Aw, you went and got your hopes up way to high. Lemme guess....you're gonna blame the media.

[Dr Negative]

I'm pretty sure some ex jay did a satanic ritual and cursed the org, shea Hillenbrand? He seemed like the type to be in a satanic cult.

 

I think we should call it the curse of John Olerud because of this team's completely inability to recognize that OBP is an important stat since forever.

[Olerud363]

How do you know that? Do you have trustworthy, inside sources? Also, it goes without saying that if things don't turn around "they're going to be looking" at the front office closer. AA and Beeston don't need to have a conversation to figure that out.

 

Fair enough. I don't have inside information on this. But just from what's publically available it's obvious that the blue jays don't have the same kind of presence as Boston does in John Henry, or New York does with the Strienbrenners. Passionate baseball savy ownership that is involved at least week to week with the baseball decision making.

[GD]

Fair enough. I don't have inside information on this. But just from what's publically available it's obvious that the blue jays don't have the same kind of presence as Boston does in John Henry, or New York does with the Strienbrenners. Passionate baseball savy ownership that is involved at least week to week with the baseball decision making.

 

Lol, you're a really good poster 99% of the time, but you just went full High85.