2013 draft

[G-Snarls]

Unless already posted in the thread somewhere...

[Angrioter]

Baseball America’s

 

Rank Player, Pos., Team

1 Jonathan Gray, rhp, Oklahoma

2 Mark Appel, rhp, Stanford

3 Kris Bryant, 3b/of, San Diego

4 Clint Frazier, of, Loganville (Ga.) HS

5 Austin Meadows, of, Grayson HS, Loganville, Ga.

6 Kohl Stewart, rhp, St. Pius X HS, Houston

7 Colin Moran, 3b, North Carolina

8 Braden Shipley, rhp, Nevada

9 Trey Ball, lhp, New Castle (Ind.) HS

10 Sean Manaea, lhp, Indiana State

11 Ryne Stanek, rhp, Arkansas

12 Reese McGuire, c, Kentwood HS, Covington, Wash.

13 Hunter Renfroe, of, Mississippi State

14 Dominic Smith, 1b, Serra HS, Gardena, Calif.

15 D.J. Peterson, 3b/1b, New Mexico

16 J.P. Crawford, ss, Lakewood (Calif.) HS

17 Eric Jagielo, 3b, Notre Dame

18 Ian Clarkin, lhp, Madison HS, San Diego

19 Jonathon Crawford, rhp, Florida

20 Nick Ciuffo, c, Lexington (S.C.) HS

21 Phillip Ervin, of, Samford

22 Rob Kaminsky, lhp, St. Joseph Regional HS, Montvale, N.J.

23 Jon Denney, c, Yukon (Okla.) HS

24 Hunter Harvey, rhp, Bandys HS, Catawba, N.C.

25 Phil Bickford, rhp, Oaks Christian HS, Westlake Village, Calif.

26 Chris Anderson, rhp, Jacksonville

27 Billy McKinney, of, Plano (Texas) West HS

28 Marco Gonzales, lhp, Gonzaga

29 Austin Wilson, of, Stanford

30 Aaron Judge, of, Fresno State

31 Hunter Green, lhp, Warren East HS, Bowling Green, Ky.

32 Matt Krook, lhp, St. Ignatius HS, San Francisco

33 Connor Jones, rhp, Great Bridge HS, Chesapeake, Va.

34 Tim Anderson, ss, East Central (Miss.) JC

35 Kyle Serrano, rhp, Farragut (Tenn.) HS

36 Bobby Wahl, rhp, Mississippi

37 Ryan Eades, rhp, Louisiana State

38 Oscar Mercado, ss, Gaither HS, Tampa

39 Hunter Dozier, ss, Stephen F. Austin State

40 Cord Sandberg, of, Manatee HS, Bradenton, Fla.

41 Aaron Blair, rhp, Marshall

42 Alex Balog, rhp, San Francisco

43 Alex Gonzalez, rhp, Oral Roberts

44 Devin Williams, rhp, Hazelwood (Mo.) West HS

45 Andrew Thurman, rhp, UC Irvine

46 Tom Windle, lhp, Minnesota

47 Corey Knebel, rhp, Texas

48 Trey Masek, rhp, Texas Tech

49 Andrew Mitchell, rhp, Texas Christian

50 Jason Hursh, rhp, Oklahoma State

[Angrioter]

51 Kevin Ziomek, lhp, Vanderbilt

52 Michael Lorenzen, of/rhp, Cal State Fullerton

53 Chad Pinder, 3b, Virginia Tech

54 Blake Taylor, lhp, Dana Hills HS, Dana Point, Calif.

55 Travis Demerritte, 3b, Winder-Barrow HS, Winder, Ga.

56 Riley Unroe, ss, Desert Ridge HS, Mesa, Ariz.

57 Josh Hart, of, Parkview HS, Lilburn, Ga.

58 Ryan Boldt, of, Red Wing (Minn.) HS

59 Dillon Overton, lhp, Oklahoma

60 Kent Emanuel, lhp, North Carolina

61 Dustin Peterson, 3b, Gilbert (Ariz.) HS

62 Jordan Paroubeck, of, Serra HS, San Mateo, Calif.

63 Dom Nunez, c, Elk Grove (Calif.) HS

64 Rowdy Tellez, 1b, Elk Grove (Calif.) HS

65 Garrett Williams, lhp, Calvary Baptist HS, Shreveport, La.

66 Cavan Biggio, 2b, St. Thomas HS, Houston

67 Jared King, of, Kansas State

68 Justin Williams, of, Terrebonne HS, Houma, La.

69 Tyler O’Neill, c, Garibaldi SS, Maple Ridge, B.C.

70 Andrew Knapp, c, California

71 Chris Okey, c, Eustis, Fla., HS

72 Chandler Eden, rhp, Yuba City (Calif.) HS

73 Garrett Hampson, ss, Reno (Nev.) HS

74 Tyler Skulina, rhp, Kent State

75 Trevor Williams, rhp, Arizona State

76 JaCoby Jones, 2b, Louisiana State

77 Rob Zastryzny, lhp, Missouri

78 Teddy Stankiewicz, rhp, Seminole State (Okla.) JC

79 A.J. Vanegas, rhp, Stanford

80 Michael O’Neill, of, Michigan

81 Jake Brentz, lhp, Parkway South HS, Manchester, Mo.

82 Trey Michalczewski, 3b, Jenks (Okla.) HS

83 Ryan McMahon, 3b, Mater Dei HS, Santa Ana, Calif.

84 Tucker Neuhaus, ss, Wharton HS, Tampa

85 A.J. Puk, lhp, Washington HS, Cedar Rapids, Iowa

86 Ryon Healy, 1b, Oregon

87 Matt Oberste, 1b, Oklahoma

88 Drew Ward, 3b/1b, Leedey (Okla.) HS

89 Andrew Church, rhp, Basic HS, Henderson, Nev.

90 Cody Bellinger, 1b, Hamilton HS, Chandler, Ariz.

91 Dace Kime, rhp, Louisville

92 Carlos Salazar, rhp, Kerman (Calif.) HS

93 Jimmie Sherfy, rhp, Oregon

94 Clinton Hollon, rhp, Woodford County HS, Versailles, Ky.

95 Cal Quantrill, rhp, Trinity College School, Port Hope, Ont.

96 Tyler Danish, rhp, Durant HS, Plant City, Fla.

97 Colby Suggs, rhp, Arkansas

98 Buck Farmer, rhp, Georgia Tech

99 Aaron Brown, lhp, Pepperdine

100 Daniel Gibson, lhp, Florida

[GeorgiaPeach]

If there's a good SS prospect that only takes money, why give up a quality asset? Because it'd take a good amount to get a good SS prospect nowadays. Most of the top 10 are pretty freaking good.

 

If the SS prospect who only costs money is slotted to go in or around that pick, then sure. But to overdraft a kid due to major league team need is stupid. And what's the need to have the best of the best, trade for a solid kid or player in the majors.

[ace3113]

If the SS prospect who only costs money is slotted to go in or around that pick, then sure. But to overdraft a kid due to major league team need is stupid. And what's the need to have the best of the best, trade for a solid kid or player in the majors.

 

I read a statistical analysis before that showed that about 50% of major league shortstops are signed via the international free agent market. The DR for instance seems to produce a remarkable amount of quality shortstops over the years. I'd look for my shortstop there first unless there was an obvious candidate in the draft.

[GD]

If the SS prospect who only costs money is slotted to go in or around that pick, then sure. But to overdraft a kid due to major league team need is stupid. And what's the need to have the best of the best, trade for a solid kid or player in the majors.

 

But who said it was an overdraft? I'd like Crawford at 10.

 

I read a statistical analysis before that showed that about 50% of major league shortstops are signed via the international free agent market. The DR for instance seems to produce a remarkable amount of quality shortstops over the years. I'd look for my shortstop there first unless there was an obvious candidate in the draft.

 

Got a link? Would love to read that.

[ace3113]

But who said it was an overdraft? I'd like Crawford at 10.

 

 

 

Got a link? Would love to read that.

 

I believe it was either on Baseball America or ESPN a few weeks ago. I'll track it down and post it once I find it.

[ace3113]

To add to the Trey Ball discussion.

 

Perfect Game's take:

 

2. TREY BALL, lhp/of, New Castle HS

Trey Ball has been a known commodity for quite some time, entering last summer as one of the high school class of 2013's top prospects. While he didn't do anything to hurt his own status on prospect rankings, several other players did step up during the summer of 2012. A very talented athlete that excels both on the mound as a left handed pitcher and as a fleet-footed center fielder with intriguing power potential, it is his left arm that carries the most weight at the professional level. His fastball routinely tops out around 92-93, and sits comfortably in the 88-91 range with obvious projection in his 6-foot-6, 180-pound frame that should lead to increased, more sustained velocity over the next 2-3 years. While his velocity has held steady, Ball has improved the break and velocity on his curveball, previously sitting in the low- to mid-70s and now routinely sitting in the 74-78 mph range. The improvement of this pitch has led to greater confidence throwing it, and the same is true for his 78-82 fading changeup. Should he honor his commitment to Texas, he likely would continue to be used in a two-way role, with very good speed for his size with long, loping strides in the outfield and on the basepaths. His stature creates very good leverage in his swing and interesting power potential. However, given the way Ball has pitched this spring, it is more likely that he is drafted in the middle to latter half of the first round as a pitcher, and could be peaking more consistently in the mid-90s once the weather stays consistently warmer. Read more about Ball in David Rawnsley's detailed

 

Trey Ball

Position: LHP/OF

Height: 6-6

Weight: 180

Bats/Throws: L-L

Birthdate: June 27, 1994

High School: New Castle

City, State: New Castle, Ind.

Travel Team: Indiana Prospects

Commitment: Texas

Projected Draft Round: 1-1S

 

Trey Ball’s high school season starts March 25 and that date probably can’t come soon enough for professional scouts, who have lots of work to do on the Indiana left handed pitcher and outfielder. Ball, whose given name is Ronald, is currently the 12th ranked player in the Perfect Game Class of 2013 rankings and is frequently listed as a potential top half of the first round candidate in mock drafts.

 

The work is needed because Ball still hasn’t defined himself as a better pitching or hitting prospect. Part of that is because Ball has been an infrequent participant in national level team events over the past year, with only the 2012 WWBA 17U National Championship on his “team” resume, although he played at plenty of showcase and all-star events, including the 2012 Perfect Game All-American Classic. But the primary reason that Ball hasn’t defined himself as a primary pitcher or player is simply because he is very, very good at each of them.

 

Ball has done little himself to indicate a preference, either. Scouts who have been inside the Ball household and asked that question have received neutral answers, and Ball himself has listed himself as a primary outfielder at some events and a primary pitcher at others. Published stories about his signing with the University of Texas quote him as saying he plans on playing both positions in college if he doesn’t sign professionally.

 

Interestingly, Texas has had only one two-way player since 2001, and only for a short time. San Francisco Giants first baseman Brandon Belt, who was drafted out of high school as a primary pitcher, threw 17 innings in 2008 as a sophomore transfer while batting .319-6-65 as the Longhorns starting first baseman. He didn’t pitch at all as a junior in 2009.

 

The easiest and most simplistic prospect approach is to assume that Ball is a left handed pitcher, as his tools and overall profile are obvious on the mound.

 

Ball is listed at 6-foot-6, 180-pounds but has measured out at 6-foot-4 and ½, 175-pounds at multiple showcases that actually measure players for the scouts benefit. He has a wiry and fairly narrow frame and hasn’t noticeably changed physically in the past two years, so it is difficult to project him to get much bigger aside from normal strength gains. Ball is also one of the older top prospects in the 2013 class and will turn 19 years old shortly after the draft and be eligible for the 2015 draft after two years at Texas should he pass on pro ball this summer.

 

On the mound, Ball throws from a high three-quarters release point with a fast and loose left arm. He has some effort on release that doesn’t seem to impact his command and he repeats his delivery well. Ball pitches very consistently in the low-90s, with the fastest he’s been recorded by a Perfect Game scout being 93 mph. It’s certainly possible to see his velocity moving up another tick or two in the future with additional strength. Both Ball’s 74 mph curveball and upper-70s changeup are solid secondary pitches that he uses with confidence, especially his changeup. There are reports of Ball throwing a mid-80s slider, but Perfect Game has seen Ball throw eight times over the past two years and he’s yet to throw a slider in any of those appearances.

 

As an overall pitching package, you get an athletic southpaw who should eventually pitch with a plus fastball and two solid average secondary pitches with average to plus command.

 

But as obvious as Ball’s tools and potential are on the mound, they may be better as centerfielder.

 

The importance of the height designation above is that Ball is better off being 6-foot-6 if he is a pitcher. But he’s a better position prospect if he’s closer to 6-foot-4 due to the difficulties of hitting quality pitching the longer and taller a player is. Ball has shown that his left-handed swing is quick and short enough to handle high velocity pitching. It’s a very smooth, tension free swing with good balance and present gap type power.

 

Ball ran a 6.82 60-yard dash at the East Coast Professional Showcase last summer but his speed plays way up in games. He’s been timed at 3.96 from home to first from the left side, which is in the plus/plus area, and appears to be even faster once he gets his long legs going. Ball is an outstanding baserunner with plus aggressiveness and instincts, and he actually appears to enjoy that part of the game more than any other. His speed plays in centerfield with range to both sides and there are certainly no concerns about his outfield arm strength.

 

So as an overall position package, you get a premium position player with three tools in speed, arm strength and defense that project to be in the plus range, in addition to a hitting tool that you can dream on. Ironically for a player his size, power is the one tool that it is hardest to project to the plus level for Ball.

 

As a scout, I would personally favor sending Ball out as a position player, as I can dream on his hitting tool more readily than on his present raw stuff and command on the mound bumping up a grade. There is the old baseball adage of sending a dually talented player out first as a hitter, as he can always revert to pitching later with more ease than one can revert to hitting. But in this case, I just really think Ball is a better prospect with more long term value and potential as a centerfielder.

[Abomination]

Really if you draft a guy like that, why not keep him a two-way player? Develop both sides and see which ends up most valuable for you? Maybe you get a good pitcher who can legitimately pinch hit, or a good hitter who can throw some mop-up innings.

[Captain Adama]

Really if you draft a guy like that, why not keep him a two-way player? Develop both sides and see which ends up most valuable for you? Maybe you get a good pitcher who can legitimately pinch hit, or a good hitter who can throw some mop-up innings.

 

This ain't the national league. Plus, it would make no sense to slow his overall development, especially if he gets to double A he's gotta be able to either pitch or hit very well, otherwise, he'll get eaten alive.

[ace3113]

MLB.com's Jonathan Mayo with his first Mock Draft for 2013

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130515&content_id=47666630&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

 

10. Toronto Blue Jays: Trey Ball, LHP/OF, New Castle HS (Ind.)

The Blue Jays have aggressively gone after high-end high school talent of late. General manager Alex Anthopoulos was at Ball's most recent start, and the two-way player has been streaking up the boards all spring.

[GD]

Ugh, Ball again? Seriously?

[Angrioter]

Ugh, Ball again? Seriously?

 

Ball, Ball, My f***ing Balls

[ace3113]

He's always been 7 on my wish list, but I kind of hope we pick him now just to troll all the experts on this board. lol

[Laika]

He's always been 7 on my wish list, but I kind of hope we pick him now just to troll all the experts on this board. lol

 

Do you not realize how ironic this sounds? You're basically the only one acting like an expert.

[ace3113]

Do you not realize how ironic this sounds? You're basically the only one acting like an expert.

 

Nice to see you're back Niko. Missed me too much? lol

Edited May 18, 2013 by ace3113

[GD]

Nice to see you're back Niko. Missed me too much? lol

 

Uh, that's not Niko, lol.

[ace3113]

Uh, that's not Niko, lol.

 

Just FYI guys, if you don't want your IP addresses known don't click on random posted links. Anyway, as someone once said "I'm done here."

[GD]

Just FYI guys, if you don't want your IP addresses known don't click on random posted links. Anyway, as someone once said "I'm done here."

 

That's NJH... who I'm pretty sure has been around since the dawn of time... but you're not actually leaving, right?

[ace3113]

That's NJH... who I'm pretty sure has been around since the dawn of time... but you're not actually leaving, right?

 

No, I'll be around every now and then. This team has just diminished all my interest in baseball.

[GD]

No, I'll be around every now and then. This team has just diminished all my interest in baseball.

 

That's really depressing lol. Hope you're not gone for that long.

[Boxcar]

That's NJH... who I'm pretty sure has been around since the dawn of time... but you're not actually leaving, right?

 

Psh, NJH is pretty new compared to most of the regulars. He started posting in like...2010 or 2011 I think.

[GD]

Psh, NJH is pretty new compared to most of the regulars. He started posting in like...2010 or 2011 I think.

 

Huh, he seems like he's been around for longer than that. I've only been posting since ~September though so I wouldn't exactly know.

[BarrysSyringe]

Does anyone think Frazier falls to us? Is he comparable to Trout?

[GeorgiaPeach]

No, I'll be around every now and then. This team has just diminished all my interest in baseball.

 

Unreal

[IronLadle]

The blue Jays will likely DH Ball on his off day's to assess his bat

[Tuco]

Whats the concensus on Moran?

Would he be a good selection at #10?

 

I kind of like what I hear but that might be moreso because I hate the types of players we've been drafting and this system badly needs a bat with a actually hit tool. I guess the question becomes if we drafted him, where does he play? Does he have the bat to play 1B and be a Brandon Belt type player?

[GD]

I don't really like Moran's bat. If it's his calling card, he isn't very good.

[Tuco]

I don't really like Moran's bat. If it's his calling card, he isn't very good.

 

I assume you're talking about his power?

I like the fact hes supposed to have a elite eye and great contact skills (something our big league team and farm system badly lack). Seems like a typical Red Sox draft selection.

[GD]

I assume you're talking about his power?

I like the fact hes supposed to have a elite eye and great contact skills (something our big league team and farm system badly lack). Seems like a typical Red Sox draft selection.

 

Let's hope, because it'd increase our chances of getting Frazier.