GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 I really don't get trading a pre-prime Top 50 dynasty asset CF for two mid-rotation (at best) starters, one of whom is already injured this spring. I asked on Marte last winter and the demanded asset was Madison Bumgarner. Demanded? Really? Everyone's valuations are different. I had a better offer than what I received.... for the NOW. But the players offered were in their 30's and already declining. I'm not in the mood to watch assets decline. As for the other interest. I like Odorizzi and Heaney better than then names that were thrown out.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 I offered Carlos Martinez, Odor who he took really high in the LOD, and Hamilton for Marte and Seimen. Seemed like a better package than Heaney and Jake
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 I, too, emailed Gibbers and made it clear I could give up premium assets for Marte. Frustrating. Come on man. Porcello and Owings are not premium assets.
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 Marte for Heaney and Odorizzi Posey and Hutchison for Profar, Myers, Chacin, 5th round pick Castro for Shelby Miller jaysblue is absolutely feasting on Gibbers.
TRM Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 Come on man. Porcello and Owings are not premium assets. lol, daggers
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 I offered Carlos Martinez, Odor who he took really high in the LOD, and Hamilton for Marte and Seimen. Seemed like a better package than Heaney and Jake I like Marte more than Hamilton and Odor and Semien to me are a wash. So I was getting a diminshed Martinez in the deal.
TRM Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 I like Marte more than Hamilton and Odor and Semien to me are a wash. So I was getting a diminshed Martinez in the deal. Haha, not poking fun at you here Gibbers, but I think the bolded part certainly goes without saying in this case.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 lol, daggers If you're gonna call me out, I'm not gonna sit there and let Porcello going to a band box and a 2nd tier SS get called f***ing premium.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 Come on man. Porcello and Owings are not premium assets. I asked what you were looking for and could have put together a legitimate offer given a response. I don't like making offers without knowing what the other team wants. Oh well.
TRM Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 If you're gonna call me out, I'm not gonna sit there and let Porcello going to a band box and a 2nd tier SS get called f***ing premium. I was enjoying your comment, do not get me wrong.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 Demanded? Really? Everyone's valuations are different. I had a better offer than what I received.... for the NOW. But the players offered were in their 30's and already declining. I'm not in the mood to watch assets decline. As for the other interest. I like Odorizzi and Heaney better than then names that were thrown out. Lol I don't mean demanded like angry demanded, I just didn't want to write "asked" twice in the same sentence. I don't even think Bumgarner was an unreasonable demand, I just wish you got a player that good in this deal.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 I offered Carlos Martinez, Odor who he took really high in the LOD, and Hamilton for Marte and Seimen. Seemed like a better package than Heaney and Jake Maybe I'm alone, but I still like Carlos Martinez a lot more than either Odorizzi or Heaney. I like CarMart a lot.
TRM Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 Maybe I'm alone, but I still like Carlos Martinez a lot more than either Odorizzi or Heaney. I like CarMart a lot. For me, it is Heaney>Martinez=Odorizzi
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 Maybe I'm alone, but I still like Carlos Martinez a lot more than either Odorizzi or Heaney. I like CarMart a lot. I like him too. Loved him when he first went Pro'. But when's he gonna get a chance to start? Is he gonna get a chance to start? I liked Martinez way more in the Minors than I do now and going forward.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 I like him too. Loved him when he first went Pro'. But when's he gonna get a chance to start? Is he gonna get a chance to start? IMO he'll force their hand, and Jaime is injured already (right after I grabbed him as a FA in FC... )
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 For me, it is Heaney>Martinez=Odorizzi For me, Heaney is third.
TRM Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 For me, Heaney is third. It can go in any order, really. I understand where you are coming from.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 It can go in any order, really. I understand where you are coming from. I think Martinez is the next Carlos Carrasco. And Carlos Carrasco is the next Danny Salazar.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 For me, it is Heaney>Martinez=Odorizzi Yeah, for me it's Heaney >> Martinez > Odorizzi.
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 Gibbers, I'm curious as to what the plan is. What timeline are you looking at to compete?
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 And Danny Salazar is the next Corey Kluber. And Corey Kluber is the next Esteban Loaiza. (plz)
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 Gibbers, I'm curious as to what the plan is. What timeline are you looking at to compete? Its a Dynasty League right? I'm never an all-in right now guy, ever. And the leagues where I intentionally stripped my team down to bare bones or started out young/bare bones, never get back to bare bones because of attrition or an all-in approach.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 I expect my team to easily be better than last year.
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 Its a Dynasty League right? I'm never an all-in right now guy, ever. And the leagues where I intentionally stripped my team down to bare bones or started out young/bare bones, never get back to bare bones because of attrition or an all-in approach. Just curious as what you're thinking going forward. You must have an idea in mind for when this will come together and lead to a playoff birth. 2017? Later?
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 Just curious as what you're thinking going forward. You must have an idea in mind for when this will come together and lead to a playoff birth. 2017? Later? 2016
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 f***. jaysblue just stole Marte. This actually upsets me. jaysblue, don't come on here and break down why this isn't trade-r. Yeah I offered 2 guys + but he never got back to me either. Guess my players didn't interest him.
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 2016 Interesting. Would you trade prospect capital for pieces to help in 2016? In terms of likely top-200 talent next year I see Soler, Arcia, and possibly Machado. I'm looking forward to seeing you start to acquire talent to help in the present.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 Yeah I offered 2 guys + but he never got back to me either. Guess my players didn't interest him. I liked your guys Alan. I just liked the ones I received a little better.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 Interesting. Would you trade prospect capital for pieces to help in 2016? In terms of likely top-200 talent next year I see Soler, Arcia, and possibly Machado. I'm looking forward to seeing you start to acquire talent to help in the present. I'm planning on moving all my picks. Including my 3 1st's.
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