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Unless you luck into an Ohtani or Darvish year with the 1st pick. I've picked up some guys from the waiver that ended up as keepers. Matt Boyd for one. But smart in-season pickups have been of much more value.

 

Everyone has one or two waiver draft success stories, but overall it doesn’t move the needle at all on league parity.

 

The cut down is annoying and doesn’t serve its intended purpose.

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Everyone has one or two waiver draft success stories, but overall it doesn’t move the needle at all on league parity.

 

The cut down is annoying and doesn’t serve its intended purpose.

 

In terms of value waiver pick 15 has just as much value as pick 45, really. Outside the first 10 or so picks, the waiver draft pool is just a glob of wildcards. Fully agree its a bit of a waste of time.

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I’ve wanted this for years but haven’t said anything. The intent was to redistribute talent, but nothing of much value hits the waiver draft anyway. LoD has had no issues with talent being too concentrated. Successful rebuilds happen, and it’s a 30-team league.

 

I am serious and think this is something we should do. Making a poll.

Posted
We could think about turning the DDL into an actual dynasty league. No more cut deadline and waiver draft, just a year round 25 man roster, dynasty style. It could function like the LOD but a 20 team version with our scoring categories and smaller farms.

 

Big changes sure but I would invite them. Our "waiver draft" is kind of stupid lol.

 

I'm very much on board with this. I'd love to do the same thing for the other leagues too. If we really want to have a cutdown, then merge the waiver and MiLB drafts into one.

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I'm pretty indifferent, but voted no because I hate that the 2021 draft is going to blow. As Nick said though, we have time to prepare for it so I'm fine with it either way.
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I'm pretty indifferent, but voted no because I hate that the 2021 draft is going to blow. As Nick said though, we have time to prepare for it so I'm fine with it either way.

 

And it will suck for everyone, right. So it’ll suck but be fair.

 

There’s also a few months of additional minor league data and offseason prospect rankings that will make a good number of prospects rise up

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Hello, My league uses draft picks for a mid-season minor-league draft. As such, our 2020 picks won't be used until July of 2020. Will we run into problems leaving the offline draft open until then and then closing it? Thanks Chris

 

Hi Chris, yes you wouldn't want to leave a draft open after the season starts. Best to use commissioner --> all options --> copy league, create a copy when the time comes, host your draft there then transfer the results to the main league.

 

I've asked for clarification on what issues might pop up if the draft is left open, but this should probable weigh heavily on people's stance on the proposed rule change.

Posted
No. 100% flat. Same odds for #9 as #20.

 

I can see the flat odds making sense. I feel that only the top so many pick slots should be lottery though. 5 Seems like a good number.

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Can we have an addendum to include unlimited DL roster spots, but players DL'd can't be added from the FA list?

 

Don’t need an addendum. If the vote passes then we’ll just impose any necessary lesser rule changes to make everything make sense

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One idea to slightly increase the value of the 2021 picks would be to expand the rosters to 26 players at the time of the draft. And allow a pick in that draft to be used on a player with MLB experience to fill the 26th spot. Freeze add/drops of 25 man roster players during the draft.
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This would mean no reset of the waiver wire order? There are some guys that would be picked early in the waiver draft that will be hot commodities
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This would mean no reset of the waiver wire order? There are some guys that would be picked early in the waiver draft that will be hot commodities

 

I'm not sure what you mean.

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I'm not sure what you mean.

 

Currently, guys like Lindblom, Tsutsugo, Akiyama would be top 5 picks in the waiver draft. Now these guys will at some point be eligible to be picked up on waivers. In the past after the waiver draft, the waiver wire order was reset in reverse order to last year's standings.

 

Maybe overthinking this, just wondering what the process will be with the proposed rule change.

 

nvm - 2020 waiver draft still takes place, after that draft the league becomes a true dynasty league

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Yeah it’s business as usual for 2020 — the only real difference for people to keep in mind is when they are dealing with/for 2021 picks in trade those picks aren’t necessarily as valuable as draft picks usually are, because the most recent MLB draft prospects will already have been picked over by our 2020 prospect draft.

 

And the 2021 new player draft will be just like the LOD so it will include the future Tsutsugos and Akiyamas. It’s undecided how we will handle guys like Lindblom... we may or may not handle them the same as the LOD does

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One idea to make the 2021 draft not as terrible would be to declare the 2020 J2 players ineligible for our 2020 summer draft. That would add a small group of relevant players to the 2021 draft. It would not diminish the 2020 draft by much at all.
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One idea to make the 2021 draft not as terrible would be to declare the 2020 J2 players ineligible for our 2020 summer draft. That would add a small group of relevant players to the 2021 draft. It would not diminish the 2020 draft by much at all.

 

Was thinking the same. Could also reduce the 2020 draft to 5 rounds and increase the number of MiLB spots to 15 at the time of the 2021 draft.

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Was thinking the same. Could also reduce the 2020 draft to 5 rounds and increase the number of MiLB spots to 15 at the time of the 2021 draft.

 

Can’t just throw away a whole round of picks. They’ve been traded and exist.

Posted
I love the waiver draft, but this is so much easier on the players, commissioners and also should help get us back to being a no turnover league. Let me know who the 6 bitches that voted against are and I'll put them on my list.
Posted
Answer is simple. Every manager has the rights to convert their 2021 6th into pick 121 in 2022. Not tradeable of course. It's a little bit of housekeeping but someone that isn't me can do it.
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I love the waiver draft, but this is so much easier on the players, commissioners and also should help get us back to being a no turnover league. Let me know who the 6 bitches that voted against are and I'll put them on my list.

 

Votes are 9-1 in favour

Posted
I voted in favour. I like having the milb draft shortly after the actual draft but the pros far outweigh the cons overall.
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Late on this but a great trade by eze to get Smith, Didi, and SWR for Ozuna.
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Posted

Okay so the vote passed very quickly.

 

Summary of the major changes:

 

- Starting in 2021 the league will be a true dynasty league

- There will be no MLB roster cutdown; you keep all of your players forever

- Roster limitations will now carry through the offseason

- You can make MLB add/drops in the offseason

- We will no longer have a waiver draft and a prospect draft

- We will have one "New Player Draft" in February(ish) every year, like in the LOD

- Our first NPD will be in 2021

- The 2021 draft will be weak because the 2020 amateur draft will have already been picked over by our league. Keep this in mind when acquiring 2021 draft picks.

- In 2020 we will still have our two drafts. We need to track the picks for both drafts on a spreadsheet for 2020. We can't use Fantrax for tracking the 2020 draft picks because we can't leave the draft "unfinished" after the start of the season - apparently that would f*** up the league. Not a big deal for one year but another reason switching to one NPD before the season helps.

 

Some possible other changes and things to be decided:

- We could exclude 2020 J2 (international) players from our 2020 summer draft in order to add a few interesting names to the weak 2021 NPD

- We could expand to 26 man rosters to mirror the MLB and do that at the start of the 2021 NPD, freezing free agency at the time. People could then use a draft pick on a 26th MLB player, making the weak 2021 draft a bit more interesting.

- We could expand minor league rosters a bit since we are becoming a true dynasty and we are not as concerned about parity and player turnover.

- We may be able to use Fantrax's live online draft room tool for the NPD. You can set the clocks to 12 hours if you want. It automates emails to people and you can leave a queue in the draft room to pick for you as soon as you are up. It sounds promising but I haven't tried it.

- We may have to rethink our rules around adding free agents, eligibility to be added based on level if prior year, and MLB debut additions.

- We may mess with the draft lottery to provide no incentives to tanking going forward.

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Okay so the vote passed very quickly.

 

Summary of the major changes:

 

- Starting in 2021 the league will be a true dynasty league

- There will be no MLB roster cutdown; you keep all of your players forever

- Roster limitations will now carry through the offseason

- You can make MLB add/drops in the offseason

- We will no longer have a waiver draft and a prospect draft

- We will have one "New Player Draft" in February(ish) every year, like in the LOD

- Our first NPD will be in 2021

- The 2021 draft will be weak because the 2020 amateur draft will have already been picked over by our league. Keep this in mind when acquiring 2021 draft picks.

- In 2020 we will still have our two drafts. We need to track the picks for both drafts on a spreadsheet for 2020. We can't use Fantrax for tracking the 2020 draft picks because we can't leave the draft "unfinished" after the start of the season - apparently that would f*** up the league. Not a big deal for one year but another reason switching to one NPD before the season helps.

 

Some possible other changes and things to be decided:

- We could exclude 2020 J2 (international) players from our 2020 summer draft in order to add a few interesting names to the weak 2021 NPD

- We could expand to 26 man rosters to mirror the MLB and do that at the start of the 2021 NPD, freezing free agency at the time. People could then use a draft pick on a 26th MLB player, making the weak 2021 draft a bit more interesting.

- We could expand minor league rosters a bit since we are becoming a true dynasty and we are not as concerned about parity and player turnover.

- We may be able to use Fantrax's live online draft room tool for the NPD. You can set the clocks to 12 hours if you want. It automates emails to people and you can leave a queue in the draft room to pick for you as soon as you are up. It sounds promising but I haven't tried it.

- We may have to rethink our rules around adding free agents, eligibility to be added based on level if prior year, and MLB debut additions.

- We may mess with the draft lottery to provide no incentives to tanking going forward.

 

Also, you're welcome.

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