A Very Darrelly Dynasty League

[TheHurl]

Thanks to a coke filled boat ride this isn't an issue but I was just going over the rules and Ohtani wouldn't have been eligible for the rule 5 draft. You want to throw one of those "exceptions can be made" into the rules so no one gets their s*** in a knot when Shintaro Fujinami comes over next year under the same issues.

[Spanky99]

Dinger, you don't own him here... *I saw that*

[Dr. Dinger]

STFU you dick

[BTS]

Kole Calhoun is very available. I want to trade Kole Calhoun.

[BTS]

Mychal Givens will also be moved before the cut. He's really good!

[Boxcar]

Mychal Givens will also be moved before the cut. He's really good!

 

I'd be very interested in Givens if my team wasn't such a pile of poop

[BTS]

I'd be very interested in Givens if my team wasn't such a pile of poop

 

Your team isn't even bad:

 

C - Zunino

1B - Olson

2B -

SS - Bregman

CF - Benintendi

OF - Puig

OF - Winker

Util - Bird

OF - Zimmer

 

SP - Berrios

SP - Hendricks

SP - Anderson

SP - Odorizzi

SP - Matz

 

Devenski, Holland

 

Cut everything else, and buy cheap pre-cut depth and maybe a SP1 or 2. You have a lot of established young talent, and there's no reason why you should miss the playoffs if/when a couple of your guys push this year.

[KingKat]

Thanks to a coke filled boat ride this isn't an issue but I was just going over the rules and Ohtani wouldn't have been eligible for the rule 5 draft. You want to throw one of those "exceptions can be made" into the rules so no one gets their s*** in a knot when Shintaro Fujinami comes over next year under the same issues.

 

Can you explain this more? Why woundn't Ohtani have been eligible and what needs to be changed?

[z3r0s]

Can you explain this more? Why woundn't Ohtani have been eligible and what needs to be changed?

 

Its a good catch Hurl because Otani is such a unique case. Rule reads;

Unowned prospects that did not hit AA or higher in the previous year cannot be added to MLB rosters on Yahoo, even if they hit AA, unless they are called up to the big leagues. If such players are called up in real life, then they can be added in Yahoo as soon as their MLB parent club adds them to their 25 man roster. Such players that have not been called up in real life by our MiLB draft are eligible to be drafted to MiLB rosters in the June rule 4. International free agents that are not subject to international spending restrictions and sign during the season are eligible to be claimed as soon as Yahoo adds them to the system. International free agents that were subject to international spending restrictions but are added to Yahoo's system during the season will be treated like prospects who did not hit AA in the previous season - that is, they cannot be added unless they are called up to the big leagues.

 

Looks like it needs revision to me. I imagine we wrote this thinking no big league ready international would forfeit the bonus cash and sign with armature spending restrictions (and therefore would be rule 5 draft eligible) and that we wanted international signings who are prospects to be taken in the rule 4 draft. Otani f***ed by signing when he did and would have been eligible to be claimed after his first game instead of the rule 5.

 

I don't imagine we will see this often, but its worth considering changing the rule, even if its that 'commissioners can choose to make an international signing eligible for the rule 5 draft' with the general rule being as is.

[Laika]

Yeah I guess we need to add something.

 

You might remember that the old age cut-off was 23 for the international spending rules. So if someone had 5 years experience in a foreign league and was 23 years old they were exempt from the restrictions. Ex., pretty sure Gurriel Jr. just turned 23 when Toronto signed him for $22M.

 

Under the new CBA it is 25 years and 6 years experience. So the spending restriction is applying to more mature players, which means this is a more realistic issue.

 

I want to remove the "international spending restrictions" references from the rules entirely and just make it a black and white age cutoff. If the player will turn 23 in that particular season (or is older) then they should fall under the Big Boy / MLB rules and be subject to the Rule 5. That's what I think is the cleanest.

 

And if some phenom at 21/22 comes over straight to the big leagues, whatever. He would just be ineligible for the Rule 5 and claimable on waivers as soon as he plays. Or whatever. Not a huge deal.

[KingKat]

Cat/Kats trade: Kodi Medeiros for Toles, Rodney and Schrock.

[z3r0s]

processed

[BTS]

The following players are available in advance of the cut down:

 

Wilson Ramos

Logan Morrison

Cesar Hernandez

Keon Broxton

Kole Calhoun

Yonder Alonso

Nicky Delmonico

Mike Foltynewicz

Jharel Cotton

Mychal Givens

Hector Rondon

Alex Claudio

Nick Goody

 

Yes, I'm aware that some of these assets are worth next to nothing.

[Boxcar]

The following players are available in advance of the cut down:

 

Wilson Ramos

Logan Morrison

Cesar Hernandez

Keon Broxton

Kole Calhoun

Yonder Alonso

Nicky Delmonico

Mike Foltynewicz

Jharel Cotton

Mychal Givens

Hector Rondon

Alex Claudio

Nick Goody

 

Yes, I'm aware that some of these assets are worth next to nothing.

 

Did I buy Zunino off you in this league? I guess either way, I may have interest in Ramos.

 

Also interested in Givens, Folty, Cotton, Alonso, maybe LoMo. A lot of guys, actually. If you're interested in a big trade, hmu brah.

[BTS]

Did I buy Zunino off you in this league? I guess either way, I may have interest in Ramos.

 

Also interested in Givens, Folty, Cotton, Alonso, maybe LoMo. A lot of guys, actually. If you're interested in a big trade, hmu brah.

 

Yes, you are a satisfied purchaser of Zunino from me. I'll send you a PM.

[The Cats Ass]

Cat/Kats trade: Kodi Medeiros for Toles, Rodney and Schrock.

 

processed

 

Declined

[The Cats Ass]

Declined

 

I mean Confirmed.

[z3r0s]

lol, you had me sweat'n there. I generally process these things assuming good faith lol

[Boxcar]

Yeah I guess we need to add something.

 

You might remember that the old age cut-off was 23 for the international spending rules. So if someone had 5 years experience in a foreign league and was 23 years old they were exempt from the restrictions. Ex., pretty sure Gurriel Jr. just turned 23 when Toronto signed him for $22M.

 

Under the new CBA it is 25 years and 6 years experience. So the spending restriction is applying to more mature players, which means this is a more realistic issue.

 

I want to remove the "international spending restrictions" references from the rules entirely and just make it a black and white age cutoff. If the player will turn 23 in that particular season (or is older) then they should fall under the Big Boy / MLB rules and be subject to the Rule 5. That's what I think is the cleanest.

 

And if some phenom at 21/22 comes over straight to the big leagues, whatever. He would just be ineligible for the Rule 5 and claimable on waivers as soon as he plays. Or whatever. Not a huge deal.

 

Agree with this. Also, good catch, Hurl. Wouldn't expect someone your age to notice something like that.

[Orgfiller]

The following players are available in advance of the cut down:

 

Wilson Ramos

Logan Morrison

Cesar Hernandez

Keon Broxton

Kole Calhoun

Yonder Alonso

Nicky Delmonico

Mike Foltynewicz

Jharel Cotton

Mychal Givens

Hector Rondon

Alex Claudio

Nick Goody

 

Yes, I'm aware that some of these assets are worth next to nothing.

 

Ugh I can't stress enough how much it sucks that I have such little wiggle room for adding intriguing players given the state of my team.

 

Interested in Alonso, LoMo, Calhoun and Delmonico.

[z3r0s]

ok, given the popularity of NJH's proposed rule change, I've come up with the following changes to the rules doc to hopefully provide clarity.

 

Section 2; MLB Roster Management

 

Original rule;

 

2.4 - Unowned prospects that did not hit AA or higher in the previous year cannot be added to MLB rosters on Yahoo, even if they hit AA, unless they are called up to the big leagues. If such players are called up in real life, then they can be added in Yahoo as soon as their MLB parent club adds them to their 25 man roster. Such players that have not been called up in real life by our MiLB draft are eligible to be drafted to MiLB rosters in the June rule 4. International free agents that are not subject to international spending restrictions and sign during the season are eligible to be claimed as soon as Yahoo adds them to the system. International free agents that were subject to international spending restrictions but are added to Yahoo's system during the season will be treated like prospects who did not hit AA in the previous season - that is, they cannot be added unless they are called up to the big leagues.

 

Proposed Rules;

 

2.4 - Unowned prospects that did not play in AA or higher in the previous year cannot be added to MLB rosters on Yahoo, even if they play in AA or higher in the current season, unless they are called up to the big leagues.

 

2.5 - If a player who did not reach AA or higher in the previous season is promoted to the big leagues during the season, then they can be added in Yahoo as soon as their MLB parent club adds them to their 25 man roster.

 

2.6 - International Free Agents that sign during the season may only be added when they are added to their parent clubs 25 man roster.

 

The commissioners may place international free agents on waivers if it is deemed more fair and appropriate in the sole discretion of said commissioner. This will generally be reserved for players who are expected to step right into a major league role upon signing

 

Section 4 - Rule 5 (Waiver) Draft

 

Original Rule;

4.4 - During the Rule 5 Draft, most remaining players in the Yahoo database (with the exception of prospects already owned on MiLB rosters) will be available. The Rule 5 Draft typically consists of MLB international signings, MLB players cut from keeper rosters, and unowned prospects (prospects may only be taken if they have played at AA or higher, see MiLB Roster Management; international signings that were subject to international spending limitations may not be taken in the Rule 5 Draft and ones that were not subject to such restrictions are Rule 5 eligible).

 

Proposed Rules;

 

4.4 - Players eligible for the Rule 5 Draft generally consist of;

 

- Unowned MLB players in the Yahoo database

- International Free Agents who have signed with an MLB parent team, who will be 23 or older at any time during the upcoming MLB season

- Unowned Prospects who played at AA or higher at some time during the previous MiLB season

 

Section 5 - Rule 4 (MiLB) Draft

 

Original Rule;

 

5.4 - Only unowned players who have never played an MLB game and who belong to an MLB parent team are eligible to be drafted. Players who have been drafted by an MLB parent team are eligible to be drafted, even if they have not signed with the parent club (as our annual draft will occur before the signing period has concluded). Drafted prospects that go unsigned and/or return to college may be kept at the owner’s discretion.

 

Proposed Rule;

 

5.4 - Only players who have never played an MLB game are eligible to be drafted during the Rule 4. Beyond this criteria, players eligible for the Rule 4 Draft generally consist of;

 

- Unowned Players drafted by an MLB parent team at any time, even if they have not yet signed. As our draft generally occurs before draft signing period has concluded, unsigned players are considered to belong to the MLB parent club that drafted them until their signing period has expired. Unsigned players who were drafted may be kept as a prospect at the owner’s discretion.

- Unowned International Free Agents who have signed with an MLB parent club.

- Unowned Undrafted free agents who have signed with an MLB parent club.

 

 

Please review and discuss. Let me know if these look like they capture what we are trying to resolve here or if revisions are needed.

[Boxcar]

Alonso, LoMo, Folty, Cotton to me

Alex Verdugo to Queen Bed

 

Can someone else process?

 

E: that was an autocorrect but I find it humorous so I'm not fixing it.

[BTS]

Alonso, LoMo, Folty, Cotton to me

Alex Verdugo to Queen Bed

 

Can someone else process?

 

I'll process tonight.

 

Also, I'm cutting THE Mark Zagunis

[z3r0s]

I'll process it now

[Boxcar]

I'll process it now

 

U da man

[KingKat]

What about taking unowned prospects right out of the rule 5? Prospects would be worth more if they were off limits until they either hit the majors or go in the MiLB draft. The point of the AA rule was to give owners a way to deal with a crowded farm. It was never intended to flood the rule 5 with prospects. That only happened because Yahoo got liberal with the player database.

[z3r0s]

Its possible. Don't think there is a 'right' answer either way. Would make the waiver wire more interesting before the MiLB draft if any of those guys get called up early.

 

I'm a bit ambivalent, but sort of like it the way it is now.

[Orgfiller]

Alonso, LoMo, Folty, Cotton to me

Alex Verdugo to Queen Bed

 

Can someone else process?

 

E: that was an autocorrect but I find it humorous so I'm not fixing it.

 

Nice deal dudes, I think I like Boxy's side more because there's a chance one of the flyball dudes is legit and Cotton/Folty isn't total garbage.

 

Boxy, would you consider moving one of LoMo and Alonso now that you've acquired them?

[Boxcar]

Nice deal dudes, I think I like Boxy's side more because there's a chance one of the flyball dudes is legit and Cotton/Folty isn't total garbage.

 

Boxy, would you consider moving one of LoMo and Alonso now that you've acquired them?

 

Yes, I only have room for one. Make me a wise offer, could use some peetching.

[Dr. Dinger]

I like it for Boxy. Verdugo is an overrated, ginger, slap-hitting corner OF. Future relief pitcher.