TheHurl Site Manager Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Would Ventura have gone #1 in the waiver draft if he was cut? This is a weak year, so there's a decent chance. Maybe Thames would go ahead of him. Different needs for different teams but there are lottery tickets I would have rather have.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Yeah, not that I want to get into a ranking exercise, but if you had all players ranked as keepers, you could tie compensation to that. For ex, a Top 20 player gets two 1st round picks, a Top 100 player gets a 20B, a Top 200 player gets a 40B, beyond that you get nothing. Of course, we'd never be able to agree on rankings anyway, so I guess it's moot. Not to mention it is too much information given to our opponents but it would be a fun exercise. This board is probably in the minority when it comes to dynasty over fantasy and probably has more experience than most.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 24, 2017 Author Posted January 24, 2017 Just to put a nail in it, the compensation will be pick 40b. I don't think there is really a functional difference between 40b and 20b and I was of the opinion that compensation was not within the spirit of the rule, so my inclination will decide which way the pick falls. What we've done here, essentially, is a set a two-tiered precedent. In the future we will probably apply this as follows: A) When any objective keeper quality player dies, the owner will get 40b. When an exceptional or very valuable dynasty asset dies, the owner will get subjective compensation based on our previous rule. Will A) apply to a player who is, say, 31 years old? Only the future caselaw will tell us. How will we decide whether a gray area player falls within category A) or category ? Again, only the future caselaw will tell us. I eagerly look forward to adjudicating this complex, evolving area of Baseball Dynasty law. Citations: TheCatsAss v DDL (Council of Darrells) [2017] DDLR 1 TheHurl v DDL (Council of Darrells) [2016] DDLR 1 Boxcar8 v DDL (Council of Darrells) [2015] DDLR 1
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Just to put a nail in it, the compensation will be pick 40b. I don't think there is really a functional difference between 40b and 20b and I was of the opinion that compensation was not within the spirit of the rule, so my inclination will decide which way the pick falls. What we've done here, essentially, is a set a two-tiered precedent. In the future we will probably apply this as follows: A) When any objective keeper quality player dies, the owner will get 40b. When an exceptional or very valuable dynasty asset dies, the owner will get subjective compensation based on our previous rule. Will A) apply to a player who is, say, 31 years old? Only the future caselaw will tell us. How will we decide whether a gray area player falls within category A) or category ? Again, only the future caselaw will tell us. I eagerly look forward to adjudicating this complex, evolving area of Baseball Dynasty law. Citations: TheCatsAss v DDL (Council of Darrells) [2017] DDLR 1 TheHurl v DDL (Council of Darrells) [2016] DDLR 1 Boxcar8 v DDL (Council of Darrells) [2015] DDLR 1 ^^^ this is what happens when you get super bored with articling
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 If we want to work on rejigging the rules doc, the current rules are listed in section 8 of the google doc. They are currently the ones that were listed on the PB's with an appendix of past compensations.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 I need to cut this list to 20 What do you think? Giancarlo Stanton OF Miguel Sano 3B-OF Yasiel Puig OF Troy Tulowitzki SS Yu Darvish SP Masahiro Tanaka SP Travis d'Arnaud C-1B Michael Pineda SP Taijuan Walker SP Brandon Belt 1B-OF Jung Ho Kang 3B-SS Trea Turner 2B-SS-CF Logan Forsythe 1B-2B-3B Daniel Norris SP Dylan Bundy RP-SP Lance Lynn SP Aaron Nola SP Byron Buxton CF Trevor Bauer SP J.A. Happ SP Ryan Madson RP Nate Jones RP Hyun-Jin Ryu SP Max Kepler OF Joaquín Benoit RP Jeanmar Gómez RP Brandon Drury 3B-OF I really like Drury
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 I keep Kepler over a few of the guys you're keeping. The rest seems fine to me.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 I keep Kepler over a few of the guys you're keeping. The rest seems fine to me. Same with me. He has 9 or 10 SP too, so could probably look to trade at least one of them to free up the space.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Just to put a nail in it, the compensation will be pick 40b. I don't think there is really a functional difference between 40b and 20b and I was of the opinion that compensation was not within the spirit of the rule, so my inclination will decide which way the pick falls. What we've done here, essentially, is a set a two-tiered precedent. In the future we will probably apply this as follows: A) When any objective keeper quality player dies, the owner will get 40b. When an exceptional or very valuable dynasty asset dies, the owner will get subjective compensation based on our previous rule. Will A) apply to a player who is, say, 31 years old? Only the future caselaw will tell us. How will we decide whether a gray area player falls within category A) or category ? Again, only the future caselaw will tell us. I eagerly look forward to adjudicating this complex, evolving area of Baseball Dynasty law. Citations: TheCatsAss v DDL (Council of Darrells) [2017] DDLR 1 TheHurl v DDL (Council of Darrells) [2016] DDLR 1 Boxcar8 v DDL (Council of Darrells) [2015] DDLR 1 Seems reasonable. I accept this. Hopefully this situation doesn't keep popping up.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Who has a starter they're looking to deal? I have prospects I could move, currently 1 over the limit.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 I keep Kepler over a few of the guys you're keeping. The rest seems fine to me. Agreed. Kepler over Norris or possibly Lynn or Bauer. Edit: Nvm, I hadn't noticed Norris' improved K rate this year and assumed he was still garbage. He's a keeper.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 OT: just traded Brad Boxberger for Keon Broxton in the FC. Dinger would be proud!
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Probably a fair deal, both guys suck, but especially Boxberger. How you got him for anything is a miracle in and of itself.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Also, lmao @ the fans' projections of Keon Broxton on fangraphs. They think he's 2015-2016 Odubel Herrera, basically.
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 OT: just traded Brad Boxberger for Keon Broxton in the FC. Dinger would be proud! Jesus Christ. I paid a lot more for him in DDL.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Jesus Christ. I paid a lot more for him in DDL. Dinger ended up trading him actually lol? What was the trade?
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Dinger ended up trading him actually lol? What was the trade? Broxton + Kazmir for Gio Gonzalez + Gsellman
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Also, lmao @ the fans' projections of Keon Broxton on fangraphs. They think he's 2015-2016 Odubel Herrera, basically. The only thing fan projections are (possibly somewhat) useful for are playing time projections, assuming a large enough sample size.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Jesus Christ. I paid a lot more for him in DDL. In what universe is Brad Boxberger even remotely keeper worthy? I'm no fan of Broxton but there's no denying that getting an intriguing piece like him for someone who might not get chosen in the waiver draft is a complete steal.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 I forgot Boxberger was still alive. Is he still a Ray? FC owners aren't the sharpest, overall. A few exceptions, namely anyone who is reading this.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Dinger ended up trading him actually lol? What was the trade? I didn't want to, but I wanted Gsellman and Broxton was the only piece that really fit for BTS' roster. I don't think Gio and Kazmir are too different; the difference is mainly job security rather than talent. I have seen a huge divergence of opinions on Gsellman, much like Broxton. BP put his OFP as 70 in this year's prospect rankings (which I think is way too high), and I've seen probably half the writers in chats say he's more of a 3/4 SP, 50-60 OFP guy.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 24, 2017 Author Posted January 24, 2017 I forgot Boxberger was still alive. Is he still a Ray? FC owners aren't the sharpest, overall. A few exceptions, namely anyone who is reading this. Well it is a 7x7 that uses both Hits and Average as scoring categories.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Well it is a 7x7 that uses both Hits and Average as scoring categories. Yeah I'm pretty sure Dee Gordon was a Top 5 player in 2015.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Jesus Christ. I paid a lot more for him in DDL. You had to pay the Dinger Pump and Dump premium.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 24, 2017 Author Posted January 24, 2017 You had to pay the Dinger Pump and Dump premium. Dinger is an Alpha Top in fantasy trade negotiations
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Dinger is an Alpha Top in fantasy trade negotiations Also IRL
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 24, 2017 Author Posted January 24, 2017 I'll take your word for it I guess
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 I'll take your word for it I guess Ah come on... Take one for the league.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 Ah come on... Take one for the league. Not my type.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 OT: just traded Brad Boxberger for Keon Broxton in the FC. Dinger would be proud! Holy crap man, I went over their to see what was going on... 9 new owners? Welp!!!
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