A Very Darrelly Dynasty League

[GD]

Votto for Stroman+? Did the DDL just copy the BBDL?

[Dr. Dinger]

I like the Votto package, although I'm a big fan of Stroman and Tapia. I don't really get the Pedroia trade, I think he's pretty much done being an elite player. Kipnis had a bad year, but he still has upside.

[Fearthedoc]

The Pedroia trade is shocking to me. The pick upgrades are marginal (nothing in the top 30). Pedroia looks like he's fading out with very little left in the power/speed department. I like Kipnis as a rebound candidate.

[BTS]

Wait, does Pedroia have great PD stats?

[GD]

Wait, does Pedroia have great PD stats?

 

I think you mean

 

GREAT PD STATS

[NorthOf49]

Well I like Pedroia as a bounce-back and prefer his bat-to-ball skills and contextual factors.

[Laika]

For 2B, I have Pedroia ranked 2 or 3 slots ahead of Kipnis for 2015. Kipnis isn't in the top 10, surprisingly. That doesn't include age though.

 

It's entirely possible that Kipnis' rate stats in 2013 were largely a mirage.

 

Still, he's a 20/30 candidate up the middle and in his physical prime.

[Laika]

I'd take Kipnis over Pedroia because of Mookie Betts.

 

Meh. Betts can play the OF and even in Pedroia's "decline" year he was a ~5 win player. Dude can still hit the ball and pick it... he's just doesn't look like an elite fantasy 2B anymore.

They probably move an OF this offseason and give Betts CF.

[Laika]

What's the Votto deal?

 

Stroman + Raimel Tapia + Hunter Renfroe + pick #33 (to Sammy)

for

Votto + Neil Walker + pick #107(to me)

[Abomination]

Stroman + Raimel Tapia + Hunter Renfroe + pick #33 (to Sammy)

for

Votto + Neil Walker + pick #107(to me)

 

Wow. I definitely like that better for you.

[NorthOf49]

Yeah I love it for NJH.

 

Neil Walker is a valuable player in his own right.

[Laika]

Tapia reaching his potential 2-3 years from now, or Votto's hamstring issues being chronic, could make me regret the trade, but at least Walker is a nice little hedge bet.

[Orgfiller]

I like how both Votto trades had Stroman coming back.

[BTS]

Holy f***, love that for NJH...Wowzers! Sammy's re-tooling, he's getting great talent back also.

 

Any of you three gonna throw your hat into the ring for the MC next year, or is it going to be me and silvergun yet again?

[Laika]

Any of you three gonna throw your hat into the ring for the MC next year, or is it going to be me and silvergun yet again?

 

Spanky is actively trying to package his #8 overall pick other pieces for impact MLB upgrades

[BTS]

Spanky is actively trying to package his #8 overall pick other pieces for impact MLB upgrades

 

Nice. Not sure he has the horses for a serious run, but it will be fun if he goes for it. Molina and V-Mart aren't getting any younger.

[NorthOf49]

No they aren't...

I have lots of starting pitching available Spanky, and may be interested in the #8 pick.

[Laika]

Nice. Not sure he has the horses for a serious run, but it will be fun if he goes for it. Molina and V-Mart aren't getting any younger.

 

Spanky has a lot of productive but underrated guys like Frazier, Dozier, Gardner, Holland, Duffy, Alvarez, maybe even Kyle Gibson.

 

Deep rotation with probably 8 viable SP:

 

Holland

Cobb

Moore

Archer

Alvarez

Walker

Duffy

Masterson

Gibson?

Despaigne?

MAG?

 

(last three might suck though).

 

Really he just needs a SS or CF upgrade and an OF that can slug. That and a good waiver draft, and he's there.

[BTS]

Spanky has a lot of productive but underrated guys like Frazier, Dozier, Gardner, Holland, Duffy, Alvarez, maybe even Kyle Gibson.

 

Deep rotation with probably 8 viable SP:

 

Holland

Cobb

Moore

Archer

Alvarez

Walker

Duffy

Masterson

Gibson?

Despaigne?

MAG?

 

(last three might suck though).

 

Really he just needs a SS and an outfield that can slug. That and a good waiver draft, and he's there.

 

C - Molina

1B - Martinez

2B - Dozier

3B - Frazier

SS - Mercer

CF - Gardner

OF - Joyce

OF - ???

Util - ???

 

I think he needs a couple of top-100 bats and a SS to take a run. Probably also another SP1-2.

[NorthOf49]

Pfftt...pitching. I want BATS WITH HATS!!!

Cruisin' Chris could be on the market. 37 hats this year.

[z3r0s]

C - Molina

1B - Martinez

2B - Dozier

3B - Frazier

SS - Mercer

CF - Gardner

OF - Joyce

OF - ???

Util - ???

 

I think he needs a couple of top-100 bats and a SS to take a run. Probably also another SP1-2.

 

I have a to 100 bats SS he could trade for.

[BTS]

Cruisin' Chris could be on the market. 37 hats this year.

 

So are things dead?

[NorthOf49]

So are things dead?

No, they're still alive. Our agreement is based on someone else wanting the pitcher and he hasn't gotten back to me.

 

I could change course and trade Chris in a different deal that makes sense for my team on its own merits.

[BTS]

No, they're still alive. Our agreement is based on someone else wanting the pitcher and he hasn't gotten back to me.

 

I could change course and trade Chris in a different deal that makes sense for my team on its own merits.

 

I'm just gonna pull the offer. Doesn't really make sense for me to sign off and sit around waiting while you keep shopping your guy.

[Fearthedoc]

Wait, am I part of that BTS deal?

[NorthOf49]

I'm just gonna pull the offer. Doesn't really make sense for me to sign off and sit around waiting while you keep shopping your guy.

Yeah that probably makes sense. Yesterday it seemed like the other owner and I were close to making a deal but he just hasn't responded.

 

Wait, am I part of that BTS deal?

No, you guys were just separate options for the other owner to consider.

[Fearthedoc]

North is using BTS and I like pieces of meat. At least buy us dinner first..

[Laika]

I think I ruined North's master plans by trading for Votto...

[BTS]

North is using BTS and I like pieces of meat. At least buy us dinner first..

 

Yeah. I'm feeling pretty cheap right now.

[BTS]

Semi-related: I really hate being involved in multi-team deals. They almost always break down, and unless you're the middle-man you're left with no idea if/when the deals you agree to will actually go through.