NHL Thread

[Nox]

Feel free to look here http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/rankings/cap-hit/center/

 

Remember Bozak is 4.2 ( LW ) but plays center, and don't look down the list to find up and comers that's cheating. Hodgson, Laich, Backes, Marchard ( i like him ), Fisher, Hudler etc.

 

Relax with Bozak being the problem and a " garbage player "

 

Um, other than Laich, those guys are pretty decent.

 

Fuzzy thinking is fuzzy.

[canadiansportsjunkie]

Another loss but this one wasn't a tough one. Leafs got beat...

 

Babcock bank on it

[Dylan]

2.5% chance to bring Connor home.

 

http://www.danglefactory.com/projections/standings

 

Id be stoked to get any of the top like 10-12 guys. Such a deep draft this year.

[burlingtonbandit]

Sure tell me which days he shows up and I would agree.

 

Kadri has tools to be something better. That is a longer process, maybe he is ready now however that doesn't take anything away from what Bozak has done for this team.

 

A good center is tough to find never mind a top one.

 

Bozak sucks lol. The funny thing is that Kessel is getting killed in the media mostly because of Bozak.

[GD]

If the Leafs decide to tank, which firing Carlyle kinda seems like they'll be doing, they could get a fantastic building block for the future.

[BTS]

So Babcock is officially this year's Ontario-born player/coach/GM that Leafs fans spend six getting excited about? This has been going on forever and none of these guys have ever signed in Toronto.

[canadiansportsjunkie]

Bozak sucks lol. The funny thing is that Kessel is getting killed in the media mostly because of Bozak.

 

Again who would you rather have play with him on this team? This is not a video game we can't just get a Toews!

 

Kessel is asked the same questions as others but he is the one who can't handle them. He is a great player on a great team, but currently he is a great player on an average team. Compare him to a Kane, not the leader but a great piece.

[GD]

Again who would you rather have play with him on this team? This is not a video game we can't just get a Toews!

 

Kessel is asked the same questions as others but he is the one who can't handle them. He is a great player on a great team, but currently he is a great player on an average team. Compare him to a Kane, not the leader but a great piece.

 

Pretty much anyone else. Kadri most definitely. But yeah, mostly anyone else.

[BTS]

The answer to the "who would you rather play?!?!?!?" question is pretty clearly Mikhail Grabovski. Oops.

 

Alex Steen would look pretty good too.

[canadiansportsjunkie]

Pretty much anyone else. Kadri most definitely. But yeah, mostly anyone else.

 

Oh yea me too anyone else? I can name a few stars in the NHL I would want at center, back to reality yet?

 

Kadri and Kessel would require the top defense pairing in the league along with a top goalie. Can you imagine Kadri taking majority of the faceoffs?

[GD]

Oh yea me too anyone else? I can name a few stars in the NHL I would want at center, back to reality yet?

 

Kadri and Kessel would require the top defense pairing in the league along with a top goalie. Can you imagine Kadri taking majority of the faceoffs?

 

You really aren't following this very well. You think I'm talking about getting a star center. I'm not. Mike Santorelli. Nazem Kadri. Peter Holland. All better options than Tyler Bozak. Already on the team.

[Nox]

So Babcock is officially this year's Ontario-born player/coach/GM that Leafs fans spend six getting excited about? This has been going on forever and none of these guys have ever signed in Toronto.

 

I would like to hear why Babcock would leave a place where:

 

1) He's won in the regular season

2) He's won in the playoffs

3) He has complete trust from those above him

4) He will almost certainly get equivalent compensation from.

5) He doesn't have to deal with the Toronto media.

[GD]

Paul MacLean pls

[Nox]

The answer to the "who would you rather play?!?!?!?" question is pretty clearly Mikhail Grabovski. Oops.

 

Alex Steen would look pretty good too.

 

How about Seguin?

[GD]

How about Seguin?

 

To play next to Kessel?

 

Catch 22; logic fail.

[Nox]

To play next to Kessel?

 

Catch 22; logic fail.

 

Let me troll in peace god dammit.

[GD]

Let me troll in peace god dammit.

 

Lol I had Seguin typed in and I was gonna hit enter and then I realized the logic fail.

 

I'd let you troll in peace but that'd make BTS too happy for my tastes.

[BTS]

Most egregious and damaging decision?

 

- Rask for Raycroft

- Steen for Colaiacovo and Stempniak

- Buying Grabovski out and using the cash on Clarkson and Bozak

[Laika]

You can add giving Dion Phaneuf money.

 

Yeah it doesn't get much worse than giving Phaneuf 7/49.

 

In baseball terms I want to say that that's the rough equivalent of, say, the Josh Hamilton deal (or something like that).

 

So many bad trades in recent Leafs history. As a Boston fan my personal favourite has to be the Rask deal. Used to be the Kessel trade but then the Bruins had to ruin everything by trading Seguin for junk....

 

This is another personal fave though:

 

2011 draft, Toronto trades picks #30 and #39 for pick #22. They pick Tyler Biggs at #22, a guy described as having 3rd line upside who currently has like 2 points for the Marlies. Anaheim picks Rickard Rakell (hey, at least he's in the NHL (I think) and his name is cool) and John Gibson super-stud with those two picks.

[burlingtonbandit]

I would like to hear why Babcock would leave a place where:

 

1) He's won in the regular season

2) He's won in the playoffs

3) He has complete trust from those above him

4) He will almost certainly get equivalent compensation from.

5) He doesn't have to deal with the Toronto media.

 

The reason guys leave places all the time: Money.

 

That said I don't see Babcock coming to Toronto.

[burlingtonbandit]

Most egregious and damaging decision?

 

- Rask for Raycroft

- Steen for Colaiacovo and Stempniak

- Buying Grabovski out and using the cash on Clarkson and Bozak

 

Add Trading two top 10 picks which turned out to be Seguin and Dougie Hamilton for Kessel. The drafting in the Burke era was also Oilers-esque.

 

Edit: Actually looked it up and its worse than I thought. Here are the top 3 round picks since the 2008

 

2008

1 Luke Schenn

2 Jimmy Hayes

 

2009

1 Kadri

2 Kenny Ryan

2 Jesse Blacker

3 Jamie Devane

 

2010

2 Brad Ross

3 Greg Mckegg

3 Sondre Olden

 

2011

1 Tyler Biggs

1 Stuart Percy

3 Josh Leivo

 

2012

1 Morgan Reily

2 Matt Finn

 

2013

1 Fredrik Gauthier

3 Carter Verhaeghe

 

Kadri and Reily seems like the only long term assets from 6 drafts (Also both were top 10 picks). And if you are wondering about if any picks from the 3rd round to 7th turned into anything Jerry D'Amigo is the only one to play more than 20 games in the NHL and he played 22...

Edited January 8, 2015 by burlingtonbandit

[Spanky99]

The answer to the "who would you rather play?!?!?!?" question is pretty clearly Mikhail Grabovski. Oops.

 

Alex Steen would look pretty good too.

 

How about Seguin?

 

Must you guys make me tear up?

[Spanky99]

Let me troll in peace god dammit.

 

Boooo!!!

[Spanky99]

Motherf***ers....

 

I SAID GOOD DAY!

[Frag]

So Babcock is officially this year's Ontario-born player/coach/GM that Leafs fans spend six getting excited about? This has been going on forever and none of these guys have ever signed in Toronto.

 

Which is ridiculous considering Dan Bylsma could be had RIGHT NOW.

[Frag]

2011 draft, Toronto trades picks #30 and #39 for pick #22. They pick Tyler Biggs at #22, a guy described as having 3rd line upside who currently has like 2 points for the Marlies. Anaheim picks Rickard Rakell (hey, at least he's in the NHL (I think) and his name is cool) and John Gibson super-stud with those two picks.

 

Not only that, but the Leafs could have used one of those picks to draft Brandon Saad, which makes me Saad.

[Frag]

Add Trading two top 10 picks which turned out to be Seguin and Dougie Hamilton for Kessel. The drafting in the Burke era was also Oilers-esque.

 

Edit: Actually looked it up and its worse than I thought. Here are the top 3 round picks since the 2008

 

2008

1 Luke Schenn

2 Jimmy Hayes

 

2009

1 Kadri

2 Kenny Ryan

2 Jesse Blacker

3 Jamie Devane

 

2010

2 Brad Ross

3 Greg Mckegg

3 Sondre Olden

 

2011

1 Tyler Biggs

1 Stuart Percy

3 Josh Leivo

 

2012

1 Morgan Reily

2 Matt Finn

 

2013

1 Fredrik Gauthier

3 Carter Verhaeghe

 

Kadri and Reily seems like the only long term assets from 6 drafts (Also both were top 10 picks). And if you are wondering about if any picks from the 3rd round to 7th turned into anything Jerry D'Amigo is the only one to play more than 20 games in the NHL and he played 22...

 

Andreas Johnson is looking like one hell of a pick in 2013.

[burlingtonbandit]

Andreas Johnson is looking like one hell of a pick in 2013.

 

You know the drafting has been awful when you are getting excited about a 7th round pick. Even if he has say 2nd round talent they drafted Gauthier in the 1st round who has 3rd line upside.

[GD]

You know the drafting has been awful when you are getting excited about a 7th round pick. Even if he has say 2nd round talent they drafted Gauthier in the 1st round who has 3rd line upside.

 

Drafting a second round talent in the 7th is something to get excited about lmao

 

It's worked pretty well for Detroit, no?

[BTS]

Drafting a second round talent in the 7th is something to get excited about lmao

 

It's worked pretty well for Detroit, no?

 

Detroit drafts top-5 talent in the 2nd round.