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[Angrioter]

Oft-injured Brian Roberts signs with the Yankees.

 

 

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[Howard Roark]

I feel very confident in saying that we're definitely NOT getting Tanaka. Why the f*** would he choose US? We're a f***ing broken down old pile of suck and we play on plastic in a concrete toilet bowl and haven't played meaningful games past July for 20 years.

[HERPDERP]

Rays asked for Santana, Salazar, Lindor, +

 

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/17/the-rays-demanded-the-world-from-cleveland-for-david-price/

 

So no, Jays fans, you aren't going to get David Price for junk prospects, let alone E5.

[Sammy225]

Rays asked for Santana, Salazar, Lindor, +

 

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/17/the-rays-demanded-the-world-from-cleveland-for-david-price/

 

So no, Jays fans, you aren't going to get David Price for junk prospects, let alone E5.

 

Why wouldn't they ask for the world lol. They are in complete control and I will guarantee you that someone will overpay to get him.

[Angrioter]

Rays asked for Santana, Salazar, Lindor, +

 

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/17/the-rays-demanded-the-world-from-cleveland-for-david-price/

 

So no, Jays fans, you aren't going to get David Price for junk prospects, let alone E5.

 

Santana, Salazar, Lindor = EE, Lawrie, Stroman, Sanchez

[NorthOf49]

Danny Salazar alone is younger, better, cheaper, and under more control than David Price.

Not healthier or better. Salazar has a long history of breaking down and I'm not ready to say he's better based off 10 career starts even if they were tipstastic.

[Howard Roark]

Right. I'd rather he didn't get posted, since he's very likely to go to the Yankees. Garza is a much better option for us.

 

I was behind offering him around 3/50, but all this recent chatter of his medical reports being a horror show have eased my erection back down concerning him.

[Dr. Dinger]

So apparently Mark Mulder is trying to make a comeback. He hasn't pitched more than 12 IP in a season since 2006.

[Laika]

So apparently Mark Mulder is trying to make a comeback. He hasn't pitched more than 12 IP in a season since 2006.

 

This news came out like, last week, guy.

[jaysblue]

Only thing Price has on him is durability.

 

And a Cy Young Award.

 

In all seriousness, you can't say Salazar is better than Price right now. Sure he's under club control for the next 6 years and has huge upside though who says he reaches his potential of being a No. 1 guy. I really like Salazar, though Price is still superior in my view over the next 2 seasons easily. For an example, Aaron Sanchez can go out there next season lets say and look dominant in 8-10 starts. Does that mean he'd be a better pitcher than David Price?

[jaysblue]

So apparently Mark Mulder is trying to make a comeback. He hasn't pitched more than 12 IP in a season since 2006.

 

Won't be making a comeback in Toronto. Pitchers who are looking to rebuild their value/make a comeback hate pitching here. I don't want to see a post after Mark Mulder signs with a team saying "oh the Blue Jays missed out on a huge bargain" lol

[Dr. Dinger]

This news came out like, last week, guy.

 

I never read more than the most recent page of this terrible, terrible thread.

[Dr. Dinger]

And a Cy Young Award.

 

In all seriousness, you can't say Salazar is better than Price right now. Sure he's under club control for the next 6 years and has huge upside though who says he reaches his potential of being a No. 1 guy. I really like Salazar, though Price is still superior in my view over the next 2 seasons easily. For an example, Aaron Sanchez can go out there next season lets say and look dominant in 8-10 starts. Does that mean he'd be a better pitcher than David Price?

 

I love watching Salazar pitch, he's a bad motherf***er. But until he shows the durability to log 200 innings, you really can't compare him to an ace like Price.

[Laika]

In a rational market Danny Salazar would unquestionably be a more valuable asset than David Price.

 

The Rays know that Price's perceived value is miles above his actual value, and they'll capitalize on it big time.

[Laika]

And a Cy Young Award.

 

Which, of course, means exactly diddly s*** going forward.

[Dr. Dinger]

In a rational market Danny Salazar would unquestionably be a more valuable asset than David Price.

 

I don't agree with that at all, it makes a lot of assumptions about Salazar's value going forward. If Salazar is a true talent 4.5 WAR asset for the next 6 years, then sure he's a more valuable asset, but that's not a rational conclusion to make based on his demonstrated durability. He needs to show that over a full season before he owns it.

[jaysblue]

In a rational market Danny Salazar would unquestionably be a more valuable asset than David Price.

 

The Rays know that Price's perceived value is miles above his actual value, and they'll capitalize on it big time.

 

Not until Salazar shows he can pitch 200 + innings.

 

Sorry but Sanchez can go out there in August next year and make 10 starts and look unhittable. Does that mean he's a more valuable asset than lets say a Price or Latos if they had 2 years left after 2014?

[jaysblue]

Which, of course, means exactly diddly s*** going forward.

 

That was more of a sarcastic remark I was making. I obviously know that means "diddly s***" going forward.

[jaysblue]

I don't agree with that at all, it makes a lot of assumptions about Salazar's value going forward. If Salazar is a true talent 4.5 WAR asset for the next 6 years, then sure he's a more valuable asset, but that's not a rational conclusion to make based on his demonstrated durability. He needs to show that over a full season before he owns it.

 

100% agree

[Laika]

I don't agree with that at all, it makes a lot of assumptions about Salazar's value going forward. If Salazar is a true talent 4.5 WAR asset for the next 6 years, then sure he's a more valuable asset, but that's not a rational conclusion to make based on his demonstrated durability. He needs to show that over a full season before he owns it.

 

In the context of right now, making exactly zero assumptions. Just looking at years of control, cost, and sane, well reasoned projections.

 

The only reason that Tampa hasn't already traded Price for Salazar (or a similar asset) is that they know they can get some buffoon in the fog to give them even more.

[Dr. Dinger]

In the context of right now, making exactly zero assumptions. Just looking at years of control, cost, and sane, well reasoned projections.

 

The only reason that Tampa hasn't already traded Price for Salazar (or a similar asset) is that they know they can get some buffoon in the fog to give them even more.

 

I don't really see any reason to believe that you can project Salazar for any 180+ IP seasons at this point. He's got an injury history, a small build, and he's never hit 150 in a season so far. There are probably plenty of teams that don't think he'll hold up, which is the primary reason he wasn't even a noteworthy prospect coming into 2012.

[Dr. Dinger]

The only reason that Tampa hasn't already traded Price for Salazar (or a similar asset) is that they know they can get some buffoon in the fog to give them even more.

 

Forget Tampa, you should see what Silvio is asking for him.

[GD]

Jason Knapp attempting a comeback. Only 23.

[Laika]

I don't really see any reason to believe that you can project Salazar for any 180+ IP seasons at this point. He's got an injury history, a small build, and he's never hit 150 in a season so far. There are probably plenty of teams that don't think he'll hold up, which is the primary reason he wasn't even a noteworthy prospect coming into 2012.

 

I don't think you'd have to project Salazar for even 150 innings for him to be considered a far better asset.

 

Note that I'm not saying Salazar will be better in 2014 necessarily.

[jaysblue]

Forget Tampa, you should see what Silvio is asking for him.

 

My talks with that team broke down over some prospect swaps. Your offer is very strong, definitely something I will get back to you on.

[Abomination]

Note to self: draft Salazar and trade him to JFaS

[LunchBox]

Jason Knapp attempting a comeback. Only 23.

 

Yes please. Presumably he'd have interest from at least a few teams

[Boxcar]

In a rational market Danny Salazar would unquestionably be a more valuable asset than David Price.

 

The Rays know that Price's perceived value is miles above his actual value, and they'll capitalize on it big time.

 

Hopefully not with the Jays. Starting to think the lack of impact prospects might be a blessing in disguise.

[Dr. Dinger]

As an asset, Salazar is greater than Price.

 

Salazar will likely provide more surplus value to his team over his remaining years of a control, but Price is the better asset because he can return more projected surplus value via trade than Salazar can provide.

[Abomination]

He'll already be drafted!

 

I smell a rigged draft order!

 

In all seriousness, it's going to be extremely interesting to see how people handle the draft.