Arkadium Verified Member Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Please hire Zack Greinke to teach JPA how to hit (only 6 K in 46 PA). OK .484 BABIP may come down a tad...
BlueJayWay Verified Member Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/current_attendance.shtml Baseball has a serious attendance problem that needs to be fixed--nearly 2/3rds of the league are facing declines in attendance, including big market teams like the Yankees and Red Sox. Even the Rangers are down sharply(mostly because of the sting from last season and having no superstars in that lineup) Notes to Cleveland, Tampa and Kansas City--get your butts to the games! Your teams are in the playoff mix. Seeing attendance drop about 2.5% this year has to be concerning for Bud Selig. Eh, I'm not really buying this is a problem at all. Compared to last year attendance is down slightly. But that will happen, it simply can't keep going up every single year. Probably almost all of that drop is blameable on the Yankees (bad off season, people expected that team to be weaker than it's been in a while), Boston (coming off a 93 loss season) Miami (FIRESALE!), as well as worse weather than last year. April and May were really unseasonably cool, and already many more rainouts/delays than all of last year. MLB is in a golden age when it comes to attendance. Look at the numbers for the 1980s and previous.
digiblader Verified Member Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 True--but this is a problem throughout sports. The NFL is even worse..
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Reds announcers are retarded. they are whining that Votto gets on base too much and doesn't hit enough Dingers! lol "it's the old school versus new school argument" only stupid people are arguing... too bad their isn't an As feed.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Reds announcers are retarded. they are whining that Votto gets on base too much and doesn't hit enough Dingers! lol "it's the old school versus new school argument" only stupid people are arguing... too bad their isn't an As feed. Dusty Baker is so smart. 2nd spot -Cozart (~27% OBP) 3th spot - Votto (~41% OBP)
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Dusty Baker is so smart. 2nd spot -Cozart (~27% OBP) 3th spot - Votto (~41% OBP) the announcers are on about Votto's OBP every time he comes up to bat. I'd take Votto in my lineup any day of the week. I'd love 9 guys with .400 OBP. the team would be unbeatable if the rotation was half assed or better.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 the announcers are on about Votto's OBP every time he comes up to bat. I'd take Votto in my lineup any day of the week. I'd love 9 guys with .400 OBP. the team would be unbeatable if the rotation was half assed or better. Today: Votto 2-2 singles. He suck, can't hit XBH, trade him to his hometown team.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Today: Votto 2-2 singles. He suck, can't hit XBH, trade him to his hometown team. str8 up trade for JPA, JPA can hit dingerz
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 str8 up trade for JPA, JPA can hit dingerz You're underestimating the Mr. Baker analysis ability; JP isn't enough, they need something more....Dingerz + Speed (OBP is s***). JPA and Rajai for powerless Votto
Arkadium Verified Member Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 JPA Dingerz in April and May: 12 JPA Dingerz in June July and August: 5 JPA's career numbers are flatlining... any worse and he's going into cardiac arrest
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 You're underestimating the Mr. Baker analysis ability; JP isn't enough, they need something more....Dingerz + Speed (OBP is s***). JPA and Rajai for powerless Votto get that in writing... lol
BlueJayWay Verified Member Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 the announcers are on about Votto's OBP every time he comes up to bat. I don't get this. They're slamming him for getting on base a lot? Avoiding outs?
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 Harper is human http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2013_08_06_atlmlb_wasmlb_1&mode=video
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 Miller out for Cards after facing 1 batter (guessing he was hit by the ball, but not watching live).
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 Harper is human http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2013_08_06_atlmlb_wasmlb_1&mode=video http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2013_08_06_atlmlb_wasmlb_1&mode=video&content_id=29486455&tcid=vpp_copy_29486455 Holy f***, Harper's gone up quite a few notches after this interview.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2013 Author Posted August 8, 2013 http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2013_08_06_atlmlb_wasmlb_1&mode=video&content_id=29486455&tcid=vpp_copy_29486455 Holy f***, Harper's gone up quite a few notches after this interview. Not related, but man is that a horrible beard.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 Mike Trout just homered and is now hitting .333/.425/.582, which is ridiculous in this environment and a marked improvement over last year. It's his 22nd birthday and so Dave Cameron made a short post to Fangraphs about career thus far: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/happy-22nd-birthday-mike-trout-2/ He's easily the best player ever through age 21. Mike Trout is going to be one of the half-dozen best players ever. Develope young talent is the key to success. Dickey for Syndergaard and TDA will be the worst disaster ever.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 If Mike Trout became a free agent this offseason, what contract would he get? I'd have to think he'd become the first person to exceed 300M at minimum.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2013 Author Posted August 8, 2013 He's been worth around $75m a season (9m/fWAR). He could probably provide surplus value on a 300/400m contract lmao
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 If Mike Trout became a free agent this offseason, what contract would he get? 18Y/400M (22-40 years old)
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 He definitely would. He'd need like 20 WAR or something on a 15-year deal. Joe Carter ~19 WAR career. Trout 20 WAR in 2 years.
Anemic0ffense Verified Member Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 Trout already looks like a future HOF'er... His talents are off the charts... Yeah I know a ton of other teams passed him up, but I just gotta say this... Chad f***ing Jenkins
GD Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2013 Author Posted August 8, 2013 Trout has 7.3 fWAR, but he's rated out as a negative fielder, which I find hard to believe. It's not hard to believe he's even more valuable than his fWAR suggests.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 So I'm watching the Rays game right now, and I really can't get over how that team was built. They have three legit star talents (Longoria, Myers and Zobrist), and every other player in the lineup is a flawed asset acquired pretty much for free to fill a very specific niche on the team; Joyce, Loney, Escobar, Johnson, and Molina. Every player on the bench and starting lineup serves a purpose. f*** I love that team. Joe Maddon is the King Midas.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 Its the whole organization. The FO acquires complementary pieces, and then Maddon uses them exactly as the FO intended. In the same circumstance Ramón Ortiz > Fausto Carmona
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 It weird. DRS and UZR both hate him this year. Maybe the extra weight is slowing him down. I wouldn't put much into that. Without fieldfx the defensive metrics are all extremely flawed. One way to evaluate that is that last year Angels pitching gave up a 17% line drive rate (one of the best in the league). This year they're giving up 23% (one of the worst). Now I know those metrics attempt to incorporate that, but it's impossible to do so with the general categories they're restricted to with current data collection. It's likely (although currently impossible to prove) that last year Trout faced a lot more easy catches, while this year he's facing very few. That would impact his overall numbers through no fault of his own. Last year his defensive WAR was probably too high, this year waaaaay too low. Just my opinion.
8D Verified Member Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 13 in a row for the Braves. remember when the Jays got 11 in a row? Distant memory.
Arkadium Verified Member Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 There's probably a roster move thread somewhere. This would work too: http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/1042-Hutch-Watch OK deleted and reposted.
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