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[G-Snarls]

That's my point bro, he's a douchebag that throws at guys.........he has a long history of it with great control.

 

Oh. You were aware but making a point. Gotcha. Yeah he does have that history too.

[Dylan]

The Los Angeles Dodgers and Arizona Diamondbacks are fresh off an intense game that featured multiple hit batters and a brawl. The suddenly budding rivalry will take center stage when the teams open the 2014 season in Australia.

 

Not sure if this is old news... I enjoy the games elsewhere... as long as its not the jays

[G-Snarls]

LOL @ (insert least favorite poster's name here)

 

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[Nox]

Jordan Lyles has nine strikeouts in four scoreless innings so far, this kid is having quite the breakout season.

 

4.20 FIP, 4.15 FIP

 

Nothing thaaat impressive.

[GD]

4.20 FIP, 4.15 FIP

 

Nothing thaaat impressive.

 

You mean 4.15 xFIP lol.

 

At 23, to be putting up these numbers are pretty impressive imo. He's showing excellent control with the lack of walks.

[Nox]

You mean 4.15 xFIP lol.

 

At 23, to be putting up these numbers are pretty impressive imo. He's showing excellent control with the lack of walks.

 

He had a career xFIP of 4.1ish coming into this year so I don't really see how this year specifically can be classified as any sort of breakout.

[GD]

He had a career xFIP of 4.1ish coming into this year so I don't really see how this year specifically can be classified as any sort of breakout.

 

I wouldn't classify it as a breakout but I'd classify it as impressive.

[Nox]

And those peripherals are solid

 

6.2 K/9, Swinging strike rate well below league average?

 

I dunno. Screams 3 or 4 starter to me.

[Nox]

After this start it'll dip under 4.00. It seems sometimes young pitchers struggle to match their ERA to their peripherals, is that statistically accurate?

 

Highly doubt it.

 

I can't recall any research on that specific question but I'll say my intuition definitely does not agree with yours on this.

[Nox]

Maybe we don't cycle through enough semi-quality arms to have such breakout pitchers emerge. All our pitchers are either total crap or highly paid guys with big expectations.

 

Yah, our approach with arms is completely retarded.

 

Can someone explain to me how Fransisco Liriano signed for $1M this year WITH a very reasonable CLUB option for next year? I mean, this is a guy who missed bats at a crazy rate last year (corresponding to a significant uptick in velo). Walks be damned, how the hell did he sign for that?

[GD]

Yah, our approach with arms is completely retarded.

 

Can someone explain to me how Fransisco Liriano signed for $1M this year WITH a very reasonable CLUB option for next year? I mean, this is a guy who missed bats at a crazy rate last year (corresponding to a significant uptick in velo). Walks be damned, how the hell did he sign for that?

 

He broke his arm falling down the stairs which wrecked his previous 2/12mm deal with the Pirates.

[Nox]

He broke his arm falling down the stairs which wrecked his previous 2/12mm deal with the Pirates.

 

Hmm...hadn't realized (or completely forgot) his original deal got voided. Thanks.

 

Even still, that original deal is a complete steal. A projected for ~3 WAR @ $6M per year? Umm...

 

Pirates killed free agency with that and the Martin deal.

[GD]

Hmm...hadn't realized (or completely forgot) his original deal got voided. Thanks.

 

Even still, that original deal is a complete steal. A projected for ~3 WAR @ $6M per year? Umm...

 

Pirates killed free agency with that and the Martin deals.

 

They're a weird org. They can make some great moves, but then you have bootcamp army training. Still, their pitching is set for DAYSSSSSS with Liriano/Burnett/Wandy/Cole/Taillon/etc, their hitting looks to be up there with Marte, McCutchen, Alvarez (kinda), Mathieson, Hansen, Polanco, McGuire, Meadows, etc, I really like the direction they're moving in.

 

Plus, DAT BALLPARK. Got out there last year. It's beautiful.

[Nox]

Huntington is actually very saber oriented. I didn't realize this until last summer.

 

But yah, their player development guy is a lunatic.

[GD]

Also, Bartolo Colon signed a one-year deal for $3M, coming off two very solid years (and a suspension, but still).

 

AA should have studied how the best pitching teams have cobbled together their rotation in recent years. Tigers, Rangers, Cardinals, Giants, etc. Those teams generally have a couple good mainstays and then a handful of capable guys who have the potential to be more than capable. No team has ever been successful with the "get the five best guys on the market and cross your fingers" approach.

 

Meh, a suspension and a 4.17 xFIP at his age isn't very attractive.

[GD]

Huntington is actually very saber oriented. I didn't realize this until last summer.

 

But yah, their player development guy is a lunatic.

 

Is he really? I'd never heard that.

 

I think David Forst is saber oriented. Would make a nice GM candidate.

[Nox]

Meh, a suspension and a 4.17 xFIP at his age isn't very attractive.

 

On a one year deal it's very attractive at that price. Regardless of age.

[GD]

Love everything about the Pirates, have been watching them a lot recently. Very likable players who form a great foundation. Looks like the doormat era is over.

 

I hate myself for forgetting to stream Cole's debut. My friend in Pittsburgh went to go see it live. Lucky bitch.

[Nox]

very likable players

 

I forget what that's like.

[Boxcar]

Better than any of the Jays starters lol. It seems every other team in the AL has some random guy putting up a sub-4.00 ERA and making no money. Maybe we don't cycle through enough semi-quality arms to have such breakout pitchers emerge. All our pitchers are either total crap or highly paid guys with big expectations.

 

You pumping up some random scrub pitcher = he must be on your fantasy team. So predictable.

[Nox]

Yep I kinda hate some of the Jays players lol. McCutchen, Walker, Snider, Martin, their bullpen, Cole, Pirates have a lot of guys I love to see succeed. The fanbase doesn't have a JPA, Boni or Lawrie to hate on constantly.

 

I like Edwin, Dickey and Reyes. That's about it.

 

I honestly would hate this team if I weren't born into Jays fandom.

[GD]

On a one year deal it's very attractive at that price. Regardless of age.

 

At that price, yeah, but I'm not upset about missing him or anything.

[GD]

Colon and Liriano are part of a larger scheme that AA is missing out on. There are many guys every offseason who can eat some innings with a potentially good ERA on the cheap. We never sign any of them, and teams that do end up with good staffs.

 

Scott Feldman was a name that I liked, as was Scott Baker. Damn Cubbies got them both.

 

I did want Liriano, though, and I agree with what you're saying, I just hate Bartolo Colon for no real reason. We really do need more guys like that.

[Nox]

Cubs also got Villaneuva. They took a bunch of guys on the cheap and promised a fair competition for a couple rotation spots. They're going to end up with a lot of quality innings by taking some chances.

 

There's more baseball savvy in Theo's toe nail clippings than the entire Jays front office.

[GD]

I really like the Cubs. Baez is a doosh but he's great. Soler and almora are beasts and Jackson's nice. Rizzo is one of my favorite players. Etc.

[Boxcar]

That's my point bro, he's a douchebag that throws at guys.........he has a long history of it with great control.

 

Throwing at the head twice is a different level, bro. You know that.

[G-Snarls]

I just hate Bartolo Colon for no real reason. We really do need more guys like that.

 

It's because of Wilko's avatar in the old board, isn't it?

[GD]

It's because of Wilko's avatar in the old board, isn't it?

 

... maybe.

[digiblader]

Like the Twins, however, pitching will be a major need if either team wants to contend long term. Pitching is a major weakness in both the Cubs and Twins organizations as it stands.

 

The Twins need guys like Gibson, Meyer, and May to pan out if they expect to contend long term, especially as the Tigers face paralysis from a coming Miguel Cabrera contract(likely $25-30M a year) and the risk their owner passes away, and they get sold to someone who slashes that team's payroll significantly due to the economic woes of Detroit.

 

As for the Cubs, they need rotation help--Jackson is a bust, Garza's gone at the deadline or at season's end, and Feldman will be trade bait to try to get young pitching, which is a weakness in the Cubs organization.

[HERPDERP]

Gibby heading to ASG

 

AL @AllStarGame Manager Jim Leyland has named @WhiteSox Robin Ventura & @BlueJays John Gibbons to his #ASG coaching staff.