RustyTrombone

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They are not a 100 win talent team. Werent even close last year and arent this year.

Can always fake IL for a couple weeks and then bring him back on a rehab stint untill a spot opens up.

Like I know your saying this tongue in cheek buts its really pretty good. Just not much impact past this in AA or A. And the rotation could be Ricky YRod White Francis

Pretty much everything went perfect for those f***s last season so it only makes sense they open camp with numerous injuries this season.

Y-Rod I think. Or Turner.

Pretty clear the Jays want to keep their options open for next winter and beyond. You sign up Soler for 3 years, Chap for 5 or 6, Belly for 7, those deals have the potential to cripple you with all the red flags for each player, less so for Soler cause the term wouldnt have been too crippling. We probably could have done Soler for 3 but Atkins probably just viewed Turner as the better option especially at 1 year vs Soler at 3 yr. Turner gives you atleast some ability to play a position once in a while, Soler is f***ing brutal in the OF and is pretty much unplayable anywhere except for DH. Theres definite value in that helping Turners case. Combine that with the extreme volatility in Soler and it makes a easy choice imo to go with Turner who is as steady as it comes with the bat, even at 39 yo.

Ya we desperately need a couple guys out of the Orelvis/Roden/Schneider/Barger/Palmegiani/Jiminez group to become everyday players so we can save some salary and get that sweet sweet surplus value nectar.

Anyone else think Atkins isnt committing long term salary this winter so he can go all out for Soto next year?

If found guilty there is no way any team anywhere would want him. Probably not even the Mexican league would want to be associated with a known and guilty pedophile. Very different from Bauers situation where he was not found guilty of anything. You would think a team desperate enough for pitching who DGAF about the retarded public outcry would sign him.

Well apparently when the Dodgers FO flew out to meet him in Arizona before the 2023 season after he had been cleared of any wrong doing they went with the intention to invite him back to the team but Bauer didnt show any remorse or admission of responsibility in the meeting and the Dodgers brass decided then and there to release him. Those are the rumours atleast.

Ya of those 3 guys I think Palmegiani is mostly likely to stick at 3B, even if its less than 50%. Think Scott Mitchell said he looked decent over there in the AFL and some people were impressed. Orelvis is done on the left side and Barger is primary RF now.

IDK, mostly everyone else but Law seems to think Orelvis is ultimately a 2B, the guys close to the team especially seem to think that.

Kieth Laws top 100 Prospects List came out. Jays with Ricky T at 52, Orelvis at 57 and Nimmala at 59. Hes low on Ricky but high on Orelvis and Nimmala so it balances out I guess. Tiedemann 2023 Ranking: 47 Tiedeman threw just 44 innings in the regular season around injuries to his left shoulder and biceps, making four starts in the AFL to try to make up for some of the lost time. He did regain the velocity that had been missing at the end of 2022, bumping 98 mph and pitching at 93-96 in the outing I saw in the desert, with a plus changeup and a big-breaking slider that wasn’t up to its past standard that day. The slider’s pretty high spin and has good tilt, giving him two real weapons, one for lefties and one for righties, which also helps as his fastball doesn’t have a ton of life or movement and hitters square it up more than the velocity might imply. His delivery isn’t ideal for durability, as his shoulder stays open late, with some sling to the arm stroke, and that might be putting undue pressure on the joint. You have to start a guy with these weapons, and if he stays healthy enough for it he’s a mid-rotation starter or better depending on the control (maybe 45 now, but he’s shown better) and command (40). Two years of missed time and suboptimal mechanics give him a lot of reliever risk, though. Orelvis 2023 Ranking: Just missed The Jays challenged Martinez with an assignment to Double A to start 2022 when he was just 20 years old and had only 27 games of High-A experience, so it wasn’t a huge shock that he struggled, hitting .203/.286/.446 with a 28.4 percent strikeout rate. The Jays returned him to Double-A New Hampshire in 2023 and he looked like a different guy, improving his swing decisions across the board, posting the best walk rate of his career and his lowest strikeout rate since Rookie ball. He’s always had the raw power, with 86 homers across the last three seasons, but needed to hit enough to get to it, so improving not just the raw contact and walk numbers but getting into better counts and choosing better pitches to attack was and still is the key for him to be more than an extra guy in the majors. He can handle shortstop if need be but at best he’ll be an average defender there; I’ve seen him at third and think he can be above-average at the hot corner, while some scouts think second base will be his eventual home. A 30-homer, .320-330 OBP hitter at either spot is an everyday player on just about any club, and that’s his upside if he keeps working on his approach. Nimmala 2023 Ranking: Ineligible Nimmala was one of the youngest players in the 2023 draft class, turning 18 this past October; he fell to the 20th pick, where the Blue Jays were ecstatic to get a player I’d ranked as a top-10 talent. Nimmala offers the upside of a true shortstop with 25+ homer power, with good actions at short and a plus arm, while he can show a powerful and efficient right-handed swing that should launch balls as he fills out. He’s still physically immature, hardly surprising for his age, and as he gets stronger he might start to run a little better and drive the ball harder while also getting more consistent around the bag at short. He showed a little swing and miss in high school, but in a brief stint in the complex league he actually displayed more patience and very little tendency to chase. He’s going to be younger this season than some guys in the upcoming draft, and there’s no rush to send him right to full-season ball. Now that commissioner Rob Manfred has axed the short-season level between Low A and the complexes, there isn’t an ideal spot for a guy like Nimmala, but I hope the Jays play it conservatively given his age and his upside.

Frasso had surgery to repair his labrum. Another Atkins masterclass lolol

Hmm ok maybe it was just a typo or something on the report I read. Ill try and find it. 110 max ev would make him a legit dude.

Im not excited about Roden at all, hes got like 30 or maybe 35 raw power. Read somewhere his max EV was like 103 or something.

Why stop there? Sign Snell too since clearly in your dreamland scenario the Jays have infinite money

Thats what I keep telling my self these days. Offer him $500M and dont blink.

Yea pretty much Im still upset about Shohei lololol :(

If we had added Shohei and then presumably had a lot of money to work with to sign Yamamoto or traded for Soto then no. Those were the types of players would would have made the team dramatically better even without bounce backs from players with down years. But now with some baseline improvements to the floor of the team, the ceiling can only be raised by internal improvements from those who had down years.

2024 is gonna hinge on Vlad, Kirk, Manoah not being s*** stains. No moves made that could counteract down seasons from those 3 again.

So this is pretty much it right? Probably nothing major is happening after this. Maybe a Espinal and/or Richards trade?

Yes 100% Kikuchi is much better but I still think it takes him to make it work, maybe the cash would have been less than the Mariners are paying and perhaps there is no reliever going the Twins way too.

Huh why would the Twins want Zulueta? They wanted a MLB SP in the trade, they got Desclafani. Twins are trying to compete in the trash AL central again and need SP.