Carlos Danger

I am going to find a new dealer and someone to attend AA meetings with.. This hurts man..

Spanky, please front this dude some of your herb. He is wound up tight and needs to relax.

Is it racist to say you are a f***ing tool.. Since you are a Brownie and all. Probably ranting about guys who have been part of the game for longer then you have been alive and living in your mom’s basement. The MVP should also consider who is the most valuable player to that team and not just stats. I posted an article from Bill mother f***ing James about the issues with WAR.. If it was based just on stats, why is there an unwritten rule that you usually give MVP to a player on a playoff team if apples and apples. Some worthless internet poster knows way more then anyone in the business proffessionaly.. Sure.. Did your mom not buy you the Jurassic park lego set and hence you are acting out against dinosaurs? Stop posting like a dick having a roid rage and acting all condeceding and I will address you respectfully.

2013 Blue Jays..

Betts was on the team last year, as were the majority of the same players. They needed a big power bat to replace Big Papi and didn't advance. This year they are in the WS and JD is a huge part of it. So if you are taking the acronym MVP literally, I would say JD.

Wow, un Mookie like..

I will say one thing about SRF, even though I had him as a long term bust. In a season with not much to cheer for or get excited, I think one of my top 3 Blue Jays moments this past season was when we were playing Boston and SRF was pitching. There was an inning in a close game where I think there was bases loaded no outs, he ended up Kng the side, or at least getting out of it unscathed. In that game, that inning in the moment, that was freaking awesome. You would have thought we won the WS I was so stoked at that. That is all..

He should have been on 2nd

Price has one decent playoff game as a SP. Sale was in the hospital last week. I want Boston to win and think they will, but those are two serious isues. Lastly, when in the NL park, not having the DH is going to further weaken Boston more so then LA.

s***😕😕

That play should reinforce the importance of even corner OFs being plus D

Pretty sure I said things look optimistic, but we have zero sustained successful major league results so far from this regime. So to say that the curent regime is better then AA is a false narrative because is so far it is only in theory and farm system rankings. I also have said repeatedly I dont think Shapiro gives up the prospect capital to get Miller down the stretch and IMO Indians dont advance to WS game 7 without Miller.

We were all talking about Martin and Morales.. I was not discussing Tulo. They didn't call AA the Ninja for nothing. Hence I gave more than one example. The Indians were a sustainable team until Shatkins left and it was after they left they made the moves that put them in the WS.. We cant't say if those key moves would have been made under Shatkins.. Not arguing they had a good base, but it wasn't Shatkins that made the key moves that finally got them to the WS.

I was not making a comparison as to GMs.. I was stating specifically, that if you have two overpaid guys you want to somehow get rid of, and someone says there is no way.. I would rather have AA for that.. That simple.. Then I gave examples of AA being creative or persistent.. It has been a while since Wells, so I Goggled it to refresh my memory.. It wasn't just the Angels GM wanted Wells and AA did nothing.. Look at the return and money transfer AA got.. It was not just I will take him, pay all his salary, and give you Napoli...etc.. (That was bad move by AA) But, we ended up keeping EE, so it took the sting out a bit.. Also, while I like the direction we are going on the Jays. A lot of our future is from AA. AND, it is still all hope, we haven't done s*** yet.. We could very well be the Detroit Tigers.. Look at the roster the Tigers had.. I think of the Tigers because Vlad is always compared to Cabrera.... So, I hope, I like what I see, I am optimistic.. but the ultimate evaluation will be results and then we can judge Shatkins vs AA.

Done.... Some closers can't pitch worth a s*** in non-save situations...

No, I thought I clearly stated that in this specific situation or outside the box situations.. If Atkins was GM in 2014/2015 do we get Donaldson in trade.. I say hell no. Does Atkins get LAA to take Wells contract.. Highly doubt it. Does Atkins sign Vlad, or Martin in the first place.. to Vlad I highly doubt it and to Martin I doubt it. AA had some strong points and tenacity.. He is/was very creative.. They basically changed the rules after AA landed a draft pick out of that crap catcher from Colorado that he then dumped.. Can't recall his name... Atkins has made some good draft picks and decent trades. However, I have so far seen nothing outside the box or even creative from Shakins... Even the way they talk is boring as f*** corporate BS and if we made the word Process into a drinking game I would be drunk and Spanky would just stay passed out.. So, having said that. I would be very surprised to see them get rid of both contracts.. Plenty willing to give credit if they surprise me.. PS: One more thing ref Shatkins... I doubt Shapiro approves the prospect capitol to get Miller down the stretch in 2016 if he was still there.. Miller was KEY to them getting back to the WS.

I am in the get rid of both of them camp... I don't want either... I was thinking that if we still had AA, he has the tenacity to get rid of both contracts a la Vernon Wells and how he finally landed Donaldson.. I do not think Shatkins have the outside the box mentality to get it done... Not saying they are not good at making trades or finding value.. Just that they seem to take conventional routes. I don't see them being creative and being able get Napoli type like AA was able to rob the Angels or even get someone to pick-up his contract, which alone should have got him Exec of the Year.

Is this the "supposed" short list, or just some names that they think are among the final list.. In other words, is Schneider still in the running? Thanks

Wait.. Luke Maile is on the same list that includes Matt Chapman and Sheryl Ring in the MILB thread.. I am so confused???? Is he good and can be mentioned with the likes of Chapman, or does he suck?? 🤔

I am glad we agree. I thought you might be triggered.. I love a happy ending.

I agree 110% with that whole list except Matt Chapman! OVERRATED!

He has played 3b, 2b, 1b and is now playing OF in the AFL... I think the Jays are trying to make him a super utility, but he is much more then a Ryan Goins type IMO, more like a Marco Scutaro, starter type super utility, so who is the best starting super utility guy... Well, not sure about this past season, but prior Zobrist was always at the top or near to.

Biggio AA Age Dif G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB 23 -1.2 132 563 449 80 113 23 5 26 99 20 8 100 148 .252 .388 .499 .887 224 2 5 1 8 4 Zobrist AA 25 0.8 83 381 315 57 103 25 6 3 30 9 5 55 46 .327 .434 .473 .907 149 7 5 5 1 1 Maybe one of you guys can better correlate this.. But if I am reading it right it appears Zobrist never had a full season of only AA ball. He did AA/AAA same year. However, he was 25 yrs old when he started AA and went to AAA. Biggio is two years younger. I didn't add Zobrist's AAA numbers because I don't think it would be fair.. There are a lot of stats that Biggio is not too far off from Zobrist for AA ball and considering he is 2 yrs younger.. Food for thought... EDIT TO ADDL The categories are all lined up when I edit and then it changes when I post... WTF!

Ok, fair enough. I think he can be a similar type player. However, I am an optimist on some things. Who is your comparison for Biggio’s ceiling, just out of curiosity? Thanks

Is Cavan Biggio going to be the next young Ben Zobrist? Excelling at various positions, dangerous at the plate and a winner, key cog in playoff teams?